I always wondered about this. who has he beaten to be ranked #1 at 154 he hasnt been any of the top 10 guys except foreman who was ranked #10 when he fought him, but come on be serious. cottos gotta beat some of the top names in there like kirkland, lara, paul williams, alvarez even angulo hes gotta beat some top 10 guys and cut the bs.
Yea, he's just number one by default.
Honestly, if Cotto and Canelo fought(#'s 1 and 2 in the ring's rankings) I still wouldn't believe either one of them would deserve the Ring belt.
the funny thing is james kirkland and erislandy lara have the most impressive performances in the lat year or so. so i think one of those guys should be ranked above cotto. with that said the king of 154 is sergio martinez. hes the best fighter in both divisions.
When was the last time Martinez even fought at 154? like 3 years ago? He's a middleweight now, get over it.
Its like calling Pac #1 at 140 because he beat Hatton for the lineal title, which happened in more recent time then Sergio's last fight at 154:rofl:
he's number 1 because he's popular! alvarez is number 2 because he's popular! did they deserve it? nope. bundrage has a much better resume than both of them but fukk him he's not popular. enjoy your number 8 rating!
Not sure if its already been suggested in the thread but imagine a tourney with
Kirkland
Canelo
Williams
Molina
Lara
Trout/Vanes/ margarito/cintron/bundrage or whoever
Somehow get Cotto and Martinez into the final plans and it could make good tv i reckon
Stop being a smart ass because it doesn't fit your hater ass. You don't hear buffer say 10KO and 12KO. Yes it was a TKO but on the record it says KO just ****ing deal with it and put ice on you back side.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/67698/1410141-lol_you_mad_brah_super.jpg
lol this is ko
did you see margarito lying on the ground life less
http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=2669146&t=o GIFSoup
Stop being a smart ass because it doesn't fit your hater ass. You don't hear buffer say 10KO and 12TKO. Yes it was a TKO but on the record it says KO just ****ing deal with it and put ice on you back side.
Neither Margarito nor Mayorga had any reason to being rank top 20 in the division let alone top 10. So when you think about it and that that under consideration. There is no question, that there is no absolute kingpin of the division.
You can say he wins by default but It should be well respected thoe. He desever the recantion as the top. The division is what is and we have to wait and see how it pans out.
Truth and nothing but the truth. I know it hurts but you have to accept reality and stop being so butthurt.
lol this is ko
did you see margarito lying on the ground life less
http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=2669146&t=o GIFSoup
The only guys that have been ranked on the top 10 longer than Cotto is Angulo, Dzinziruk and Vanes and those guys have done nothing in the division. Cotto beat Foreman who was ranked #6 at the time after beating Daniel Santos after that he beat Mayorga and Margarito and all his 3 wins have been by KO and he has lost a max of 3 rounds in all those fights combine. So when you think about it and take under consideration the guys below him there is no question he is the kingpin of that division.
Neither Margarito nor Mayorga had any reason to being rank top 20 in the division let alone top 10. So when you think about it and that that under consideration. There is no question, that there is no absolute kingpin of the division.
I wouldn't argue martinez beating all those guys.
I love the division though, tons of entertaining guys and so many potential great fights. They just need to start fighting eachother. Kirkland vs Molina next hopefully winner gets Canelo :boxing:
Cotto, well, not sure what he's going to do so if he doesn't take a top guy sooner or later I'd like to see him drop down in the rankings.
i can agree with most of this, except the martinez fight. i cant see anyone being a challenge. id be interested in seeing him fight kirkland and cotto tho. and later canelo as well. but as of now, i think he beats em all. but none of them wanna fight him. lol.
anyways the division is interesting, but whats the point of interesting if no1 fights each other? lets see what happens next year tho.
The only guys that have been ranked on the top 10 longer than Cotto is Angulo, Dzinziruk and Vanes and those guys have done nothing in the division. Cotto beat Foreman who was ranked #6 at the time after beating Daniel Santos after that he beat Mayorga and Margarito and all his 3 wins have been by KO and he has proably lost a max of 3 rounds in all those fights combine. So when you think about it and take under consideration the guys below him there is no question he is the kingpin of that division.
lol keep telling yourself that
The only guys that have been ranked on the top 10 longer than Cotto is Angulo, Dzinziruk and Vanes and those guys have done nothing in the division. Cotto beat Foreman who was ranked #6 at the time after beating Daniel Santos after that he beat Mayorga and Margarito and all his 3 wins have been by KO and he has lost a max of 3 rounds in all those fights combine. So when you think about it and take under consideration the guys below him there is no question he is the kingpin of that division.
the funny thing is james kirkland and erislandy lara have the most impressive performances in the lat year or so. so i think one of those guys should be ranked above cotto. with that said the king of 154 is sergio martinez. hes the best fighter in both divisions.
Multiple thing with this post.
Martinez hasn't fought at 154 since Feb of 2009.
Kirkland had a great win over Angulo, but Angulo himself is not a title holder and only had one fight in over a year.
Lara, while I do agree was an impressive performance, at the end of the day still got the Loss and williams wasn't a title holder either (and was coming off a brutal KO loss himself).
Too add Lara didn't look impressive earlier in the year against Molina who was coming off almost a years layoff. And, it's not like Molina is a scrub but that has to be taken into account also.
Like I said, talent wise the division is pretty solid. But, accomplishments, resumes/wins in the division it's pretty mediocre with every single top 10 fighter.
the funny thing is james kirkland and erislandy lara have the most impressive performances in the lat year or so. so i think one of those guys should be ranked above cotto. with that said the king of 154 is sergio martinez. hes the best fighter in both divisions.
You bring up a good point but the fact are Lara lost he also doesn't have a belt.kirkland just rejoined the 154 division after be ko at 160 .sergio can only be ranked at the weight he fights.
Multiple thing with this post.
Martinez hasn't fought at 154 since Feb of 2009.
Kirkland had a great win over Angulo, but Angulo himself is not a title holder and only had one fight in over a year.
Lara, while I do agree was an impressive performance, at the end of the day still got the Loss and williams wasn't a title holder.
ur rite on all of those things. the division is just an eyesore to me tho. and cotto isnt helping to clear up the picture at all, so might as well either all it what it is, sergio would probly beat anyone in the division if he decided to come back down, or go with the young talent.
but what u said is correct, im just looking at it from what i figure to be the case.
the funny thing is james kirkland and erislandy lara have the most impressive performances in the lat year or so. so i think one of those guys should be ranked above cotto. with that said the king of 154 is sergio martinez. hes the best fighter in both divisions.