Are average fighting fans really so shallow, example Froch.

you're only insisting so much on Bute's record because you're so blind you can't judge a fighter on skill to save your life. Bute is miles above Ward in any chapter of boxing except dirty fighting. Oh the lols.

Shoulda bumped this $h!t a weak ago.

I'd have Froch no lower than 3rd at 168 right now. Maybe Kessler can be ranked over him, but since I have no idea where he is in his career right now I have Froch at the 2 spot. F*** Bute. Dude's getting so much credit over guys that have proven themselves against each other. I'll give him his credit when he earns it. you're only insisting so much on Bute's record because you're so blind you can't judge a fighter on skill to save your life. Bute is miles above Ward in any chapter of boxing except dirty fighting.

I'd have Froch no lower than 3rd at 168 right now. Maybe Kessler can be ranked over him, but since I have no idea where he is in his career right now I have Froch at the 2 spot. F*** Bute. Dude's getting so much credit over guys that have proven themselves against each other. I'll give him his credit when he earns it.

Froch vs. Sakio Bika is a great matchup! Froch and Kessler are the truth of boxing. Make more champions like these...! Ward though is just a level above, and what surprised me was that he was able to seem just as strong as Cobra, pushing him against the robes. But if you look at round 11 and 12 it's easy to see who would have won if it had continued to last man standing. Froch seemed like he wasn't starting tractoring forward until very very late. It started from round 9, Ward was tiring & Froch looked like he was just hitting his stride. The man's world class, period. He beats anyone else at the weight.

Ward was a horrible style match-up for him. But he was still more competitive than the other world class fighters Ward has fought. With his destiny in his own hands Carlos Frochos will most likely be a 3-time World Champion at 168 and he could probably be a two weight world champion if he were to fight someone like Nathan Cleverly. Carl Froch is 34 but he's got it all ahead of him. With as strong a promotion team as he has had and a bit of star power - Froch is only going to further cement his legacy as a fighter. That said, I still really want Froch to fight Sakio Bika. Froch vs. Sakio Bika is a great matchup! Froch and Kessler are the truth of boxing. Make more champions like these...! Ward though is just a level above, and what surprised me was that he was able to seem just as strong as Cobra, pushing him against the robes. But if you look at round 11 and 12 it's easy to see who would have won if it had continued to last man standing. Froch seemed like he wasn't starting tractoring forward until very very late.

Ward was a horrible style match-up for him. But he was still more competitive than the other world class fighters Ward has fought. With his destiny in his own hands Carlos Frochos will most likely be a 3-time World Champion at 168 and he could probably be a two weight world champion if he were to fight someone like Nathan Cleverly. Carl Froch is 34 but he's got it all ahead of him. With as strong a promotion team as he has had and a bit of star power - Froch is only going to further cement his legacy as a fighter. That said, I still really want Froch to fight Sakio Bika.

Froch has never EVER impressed me. Ward, on the other hand, is the truth!

To me he is still the number 2 SMW in the world, Bute can't be placed higher then him as he hasnt fought anyone with as high ranked as Froch or Ward. That's what I believe too. Froch & Ward were #1 & #2.

To me he is still the number 2 SMW in the world, Bute can't be placed higher then him as he hasnt fought anyone with as high ranked as Froch or Ward.

Oh really? You must of forgot that you posted this. LOL!! LOL, you know how many people are actually gonna believe that I said that don't you?? My name isn't jro homey!!:puppy_dog

Before the fight some were complaining that he should be higher than Ward on the p4p list.

This is the internet mate, thousands of fanboys and kids. Boxing takes brain.

I think the only people who've called him a bum are the ones who've always called him a bum. Although I don't know how anyone could refer to a 2 time world champion as a bum. I like Froch he's been a breath of fresh air in boxing, boxing would be the biggest sport in the world if every fighter took leacy over money like he seems to do.

youre full of sh1t, but i agree with this post...........

What a bum Froch is. Ward totally outcalssed that bum. I can't get over how much of a bum Froch is. I'm glad this bum was finally exposed by a great fighter. Only bums thought Froch had a chance. Bums recognize bums. Oh really? You must of forgot that you posted this. LOL!!

Froch would break Bootay....thats all I gotta say :boxing: I'll always like Froch..dude is too genuine!! This how I feel. Some have taken a proven fighter, (like Froch) toss him to the side for a thoroughly unproven fighter like Bute. I mean Bute was the man that pitched a shutout vs Andrade for 11 rounds and 2:45 before being stopped but dragged along by an incompetent ref. Sure he's kinda fast, with decent power, but he has $hitty stamina & a suspect chin. I hope they fight next soo bad so Froch can take his title & send him packing. Freedom better pay me,lol!!

Froch would break Bootay....thats all I gotta say :boxing: I'll always like Froch..dude is too genuine!!

He is far from a bum, Froch is still a top 5 fighter in the world at 168 its just Ward's craft and athletic advantages were too much to overcome on that night. Top 5 huh, so you have more than just Ward rated over him now then?? Who might that be & may I ask why??