Andre ward Knocked out!

Seeing as most of this debate seems to be based on Ward being dropped & hurt by a journeyman absolute years back... I thought I would just throw out the fact that Anthony Dirrell was dropped & seriously hurt by an undersized middleweight journeyman Andy Mavros who hits about as hard as Paulie Malignaggi's little sister. Anthony might be big & have half decent power but who has he beaten or even fought? IMO he isn't even the best super middleweight in his family. Andre>Anthony.

Whenever i watch Ward he always seems susceptible to uppercuts. Theres no surprise thats how hes been knocked down, and why imo, Bute will get to him.

say what you want about ward but i think maybe his greatest asset is the fact that he has close to no flaws. you have to consider him one of the 3-4 most well rounded fighters in the sport. post clips of any fighters first couple of fights and you will find flaws, ward is a completely different fighter now. his defensive skills, intelligence, speed, chin, heart and stamina makes him one of the hardest fighters in the sport to knock out imo. When he fights Anthony you will eat those words!

say what you want about ward but i think maybe his greatest asset is the fact that he has close to no flaws. you have to consider him one of the 3-4 most well rounded fighters in the sport. post clips of any fighters first couple of fights and you will find flaws, ward is a completely different fighter now. his defensive skills, intelligence, speed, chin, heart and stamina makes him one of the hardest fighters in the sport to knock out imo.

sarcasium is that in the periodic table?!

posting old video's of a young prospect getting rocked or knocked down is so lame. That's part of growing & development of a fighter. Did Froch rock him? Did Abraham? Did Kessler? Exactly. hey man, those guys ain't no darnell... ah, erm, what was his name again?! ha ha. agree with you there, video means next to nothing, especially as he got up and won convincingly

may i ask what has Anthony done or who he has fought to warrant this praise? ask that same question for Pacquiao!

Whether or not you agree with the TS and the story of Ward being hurt in the amateurs (he's been hurt a couple times as a professional too), he will struggle with Anthony Dirrell, as much and maybe moreso than his brother. Either way, I'm real psyched about him being the mandatory and Ward possibly fighting him next year. I still give Ward the edge because Dirrell is flat-footed and his defense relies so much on his reflexes (too stationary IMO) but it won't be easy. Much respect! Ilike to see intelligent responses, not just some stupid smart a$$ sarcasium. I appreciate you at least noticing the level of comp in this match between Ward and ANTHONY! Many will be shock by the out come but I will not. Wards ko lost will be great for boxing. It will show the rise and fall, of a champion which will attract alot of media.

may i ask what has Anthony done or who he has fought to warrant this praise?

Whether or not you agree with the TS and the story of Ward being hurt in the amateurs (he's been hurt a couple times as a professional too), he will struggle with Anthony Dirrell, as much and maybe moreso than his brother. Either way, I'm real psyched about him being the mandatory and Ward possibly fighting him next year. I still give Ward the edge because Dirrell is flat-footed and his defense relies so much on his reflexes (too stationary IMO) but it won't be easy.

I see your forgetting the titles and Super six trophy. get real son. Was Bute in the Super six, was Anthony in the Super six. NO! The Super six had Arthur Abraham,Jermain Taylor,Glen Johnson,Ward,Froch,Andre, please dont mention the mighty fist of thor Allen Green, lol. Glen was a hundred years old, JT is straight garbage,Abraham is a walking talking punching bag,Froch is an over rated telegrapghing snail. Kessler was a good fighter but very limited in the skills department. Andre is by far the favorite and best of the bunch. Anybody who knows boxing could have told you that from day one but you throw Bute and Anthony in the mix and the story plays out entirely different.

When Andre Ward fights Anthony Dirrell he will Get KTFO! Andre has alot of bad habits. He still fights like a very good amerture. Matched against the right opponants he looks very good. When he fights a boxer that can time him and make him pay for those bad habits he will be put to sleep. Anthony Dirrell will be the one to take his belts in 2012! As you can see in this clip below Andre Ward was hit by a fighter thats slow and has little power but he timed the perfect punch. Those type of punches are there all day on Ward because of the way he holds his gaurd and the way he charges in with his head. Anthony will expose those weaknesses! This guy just chased Ward around. Anthony Dirrell will cut the ring off and jab him hard in the gut and face before planting a hard right cross or jolting left hook on Wards chin. How would Andre Dirrell knock out Ward, unless he flopped on the floor and Ward tripped over him?

Bhop loss his first fight and was a seek and destroy type fighter. His style evolved. Same with Marco Antoinio Barrera. Now, you train differently for a 12 round Championship fight then for a 6 rounder early in your career. Andre may make mistakes in there. All fighters do including both Dirrell brothers. Andre has now built up the experience to handle almost any fighter. That's what you gain from experience. Anthony Dirrell may have the tools but lacks the experience to hang with a Kessler or Froch or a Ward at this point. When he does you should try and hype this fight. You cant tell that he has made improvements until he fights boxer that can expose his bad habits. Froch,Abraham,Kessler are not that type of boxer. They are good but nothing speacial. There all slow, they cant counter punch for sh!t,and they all have poor foot work, and no head movement basicly no defense. So what are you basing Wards improvements on. I see the same ole Ward just matched against the right people just like Pacquiao was. When Ward fights Anthony you will see more clear what im trying to show you.

Anthony Dirrell / Age 27 24-0-21 / height 6′ 2½″ / 189cm Reach 76″ / 193cm Andre Ward Age 27 25-0-13 / height 6′ 0 183cm / Reach 71″ / 180cm I see your forgetting the titles and Super six trophy. get real son.

Anthony Dirrell / Age 27 24-0-21 / height 6′ 2½″ / 189cm Reach 76″ / 193cm Andre Ward Age 27 25-0-13 / height 6′ 0 183cm / Reach 71″ / 180cm

what is with the Sudden Anthony Dirrell Bandwagon and I am a fan of Anthony and Andre Dirrell but a few weeks ago nobody was talking about the Dirrell brothers...now all of a sudden he has fans since Ward won the Super 6 as for Ward not fighting a fighter with Speed, I don't consider Kessler or Allan Green "SLOW" or "FLAT FOOTED", but with Ward style he SMOTHERS THEM and give them no room to use that Speed...and Ward is no slow fighter himself, Ward has outstanding Speed and excellent footwork

Some real killers in there. http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=291908&cat=boxer lol.

Anthony Dirrell 24-0-21KOS NEVER BEEN HURT, NEVER BEEN KNOCK DOWN. 97% KO RATE Against who?

Boxing has nothing to do with logic young buck, the more you watch boxing the more you realize that. Boxing is about styles,habits,chins,heart,speed,athleticism,and timing, it has nothing to do with logic my friend! Bhop loss his first fight and was a seek and destroy type fighter. His style evolved. Same with Marco Antoinio Barrera. Now, you train differently for a 12 round Championship fight then for a 6 rounder early in your career. Andre may make mistakes in there. All fighters do including both Dirrell brothers. Andre has now built up the experience to handle almost any fighter. That's what you gain from experience. Anthony Dirrell may have the tools but lacks the experience to hang with a Kessler or Froch or a Ward at this point. When he does you should try and hype this fight.

just realized you're talking about anthony dirrell :rofl: You talk about mistakes and bad habits anthony is full of them Anthony Dirrell 24-0-21KOS NEVER BEEN HURT, NEVER BEEN KNOCK DOWN. 97% KO RATE