http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2075860/Carl-Froch-lines-bouts-Lucian-Bute.html?ITO=1490
Carl Froch's consolation for losing the Super Six final and with it his WBC super-middleweight title will be two hugely enriching fights next year against IBF belt-holder Lucian Bute.
The second of those two opportunities to re-establish himself quickly as a world champion will also enable Froch to fulfil his ambition of fighting in his beloved Nottingham Forest's football stadium.
With rising American superstar Andre Ward declining to meet Bute for the undisputed 12-stone crown, the way back for Froch opened up within hours of the second defeat of his career.
Bute, the Canadian-based Romanian, agreed to the two-fight proposal from Froch's promoter Eddie Hearn. The first fight is projected for Montreal in April, the return at Forest's City Ground in June or July. Froch said: 'That will be just fantastic. It's my dream.'
Hearn said: 'This must be the quickest and easiest deal we've done. We take the British end, they take the Canadian money and we split the rest 50-50, for both fights. Nice and simple.'
Bute was in the historic Boardwalk Hall to watch Ward's brilliant victory and his annoyance with some of Froch's earlier remarks helped clinch the deal.
The Nottingham Cobra, 34, had accused Bute of enjoying an easy ride while the rest of the world's top super-middleweights have spent two years battling each other to a standstill in the Super Six tournament.
Bute, 31, said: 'My next ambition is to close Carl's big mouth. He is arrogant and has too much to say. The truth of the Super Six is that I was very disappointed not to be invited. While Ward deserved this victory my preference is still to fight Froch and teach him a lesson.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2075860/Carl-Froch-lines-bouts-Lucian-Bute.html#ixzz1gyJBK134
what part of "ward never said he wouldn't fight bute next" do you not understand?
Bute didn't even test the waters or try to line up a fight with the super six winner, which he said were his intentions for 2 years now. He immediately signed to fight the loser not once but twice! who the hell makes two fight deals in boxing? name one.
I'll bet you all of my points right now bute will not fight ward in Oct/November. Sig it!
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/sports/boxe/201112/19/01-4479161-lucian-bute-pret-a-affronter-carl-froch.php
Wards ppl saying they want an easy fight at home next.
what part of "ward never said he wouldn't fight bute next" do you not understand?
Bute didn't even test the waters or try to line up a fight with the super six winner, which he said were his intentions for 2 years now. He immediately signed to fight the loser not once but twice! who the hell makes two fight deals in boxing? name one.
I'll bet you all of my points right now bute will not fight ward in Oct/November. Sig it!
Didnt Ward, said, is not fair, for him to get a direct shot at me?? Well, Ward is getting his deserve vacation, Bute is fighting Froch to prove his worth and both fighters are getting what they want.
Ward is getting his vaction then he fights his mando, Bute fights a top level guy, if it close they rematch, if someone gets destroyed they cancel the rematch and move on.
I mean, saying the fight in oakland just says it all dude, dont be blind!!
man, ward never said he didn't want to fight bute next only that he'll go after the best option. He said he doesn't rule out bute at all.
But of course Froch and bute sign a 2 fight deal like 95 seconds after froch loses to ward, making it the fasted agreement in the history of the sport.
Which again puts Bute out until 2013. But hey it's awesome for bute he doesn't have to fight the best fighter in the division for at least another year.
But this is how boxing works, the loser gets the big paydays not the winners. That's why Kermit Cintron got rewarded with losing to Molina by getting a fight with Canelo (while Molina gets james kirkland).
Ward, said, Bute should fight somebody on the elite level to deserve a fight with him, so Bute is doing so.
What Part of the 2 fight deal, ends in July dont you understand? Theres still the second half of 2012 to make the Ward fight, so stop making $hit up about them not fighting till 2013.
Ward ass said, he needed a rest and that Bute needed to prove himself. Ward can fight his mando(Dirrel) in may, and fight Bute in October/November, so stop the b*tching and moaning!!
Maybe I misunderstood you somewhat then. On the other hand I do not understand why you'd very much want such a decisive end to the first fight. I'd rather prefer the first one being a barnburner so we can have a great encore with a bit of needle.
Yes, I think you did, no big deal. Guess we will see what occurs.
Although I don't rule him out of any matchup at 175, those possibilities are why I'd prefer him to remain at 168 for the time being.
Assuming both parties are still active at 168, after this whole Ward-Froch-Bute triangle is resolved, maybe Froch can get the chance to set the record straight with Kessler (who would presumably hold a strap by that time and who isn't realistically ever going to be a part of the bigger picture at SMW).
I cannot understand why you'd say that Kessler isn't likely to be a part of the bigger picture. Two fights ago he beat Froch even though he had double vision.
I don't like the two fight deal, Batt. Never said I didn't like the match-up. And I would hope something like that would happen.
Maybe I misunderstood you somewhat then. On the other hand I do not understand why you'd very much want such a decisive end to the first fight. I'd rather prefer the first one being a barnburner so we can have a great encore with a bit of needle.
I think this is a great match-up. One of the best that can be made. You said you didnt like it and I simply cannot understand it. So what if its a 2 fight deal. If the first fight ends in a lopsided brutal KO you can count on the second fight getting voided.
The thing is that there's no way, IMO, that this match-up could have been made with 'only' one fight as neither would give up homefield advantage. Bute has shown that repeatedly in the past and surely Froch deserves a big fight in Nottingham.
I don't like the two fight deal, Batt. Never said I didn't like the match-up. And I would hope something like that would happen.
Looks like Kessler will be the odd man out, which is appropriate since he really has no desire to take on the best fighters anymore. He just wants to fight exclusively in Denmark and collect paychecks against overmatched opponents. His fans really don't care about the caliber of his opposition, they will happily pay for fights like Sartison and Stieglitz until the time to retire comes along. Fans of Froch and Ward have a much higher standard that they hold their fighter to in terms of opposition.
A return fight between Ward and Kessler is never going to happen as neither Ward nor Kessler will travel overseas and Sauerland will insist on promotional rights so they can influence the officials the way they always do. Not a chance in hell Goossen will let that happen.
I like the idea of Froch Bute and think it is the best matchup to be made. Froch is a much better version of Andrade who gave Bute hell, I would like his chances.
Cool.
How is that ridiculous, Batt?
I think this is a great match-up. One of the best that can be made. You said you didnt like it and I simply cannot understand it. So what if its a 2 fight deal. If the first fight ends in a lopsided brutal KO you can count on the second fight getting voided.
The thing is that there's no way, IMO, that this match-up could have been made with 'only' one fight as neither would give up homefield advantage. Bute has shown that repeatedly in the past and surely Froch deserves a big fight in Nottingham.
I am, because I think the first leg will be exciting and likely controversial. Then I get to be part of a charged-up crowd attending the return leg in Nottingham. :headbang:
Cool.
Thats ridiculous. This is a great matchup. Almost certainly a FOTY candidate.
I'm sure a two fight deal is/was necessary as neither would like to give up homefield.
How is that ridiculous, Batt?
Hopefully Ward sticks around at 168, so that whoever gets the decisive win in this two-legger will get to face him for a shot at complete 168 dominance. I wouldn't be against a Froch-Ward rematch at all if Froch does a number on Bute. Although, If Ward is established at 175 by that time, the winner here could conceivably move up and meet him there.
If ward moves up to 175 he gets boxed by Dawson, and completely outboxed by Sillakh. I don't doubt Cloud would catch him at some point either.
Not a big fan of this two fight joint.
Thats ridiculous. This is a great matchup. Almost certainly a FOTY candidate.
I'm sure a two fight deal is/was necessary as neither would like to give up homefield.