The Ward/Conte/Testing situation

I don't know if anyone else picked up on this, but I noticed a pattern with this subject. When Ward had the surprising win over Kessler, a lot of people wondered how much Conte's involvement had to do with it. In response to people asking whether or not he was using illegal substances, Ward said he wanted better testing and would push for it for his fight with Allen Green. This seemed to stop people asking questions and even had retards proclaiming... you see, Mayweather and Ward are the only fighters we know are clean, war USA, black powah!' and so on. But of course, the Green fight came and went and not a test was taken (other than the same ones everyone else takes, which are shit). About 6 months ago the subject came up again. This time Ward again deflected the questions about him working a with a convicted drugs cheat by saying that he wanted full Olympic-style testing for his fight with Froch, and that if Froch wasn't willing to do it, Ward would even do it himself to prove a point. Good old Clegg reminded people that he'd used this tactic before, only to be drowned out by the cries of 'Ward is a true hero, let's bomb Iran'. And now the fight is here and surprise, surprise, it was all complete bollocks. Let's also remember that Abraham actually does have a much higher standard of testing for his German fights, so if Ward was looking for a dance partner in his crusade, he had one right there and yet chose to stick with the regular testing procedures. I'm not saying that I'm convinced that he's cheating, and even if he is, he's far from the only one. The guy is very skilled and that's the main reason he's been successful. But I do find the little 'let's have better testing' act to be worthy of some criticism, and so far it seems like no one has even commented on it.

Comments (20)

ringer

Guess I was right about you being an irrelevant dinosaur. :lol1: :lol1: :sombrero: Hey now, ese! That hurts, amigo. :(

14y ago

ringer

1) ur dumb 2) ward only worked with conte for a year and a half. So now I'm "dumb"? Aren't you the same dude who was commending my editing work days ago? Not bad for an idiot, huh? :lol1: As for the latter portion of your insightful post : You say that like it completely eliminates any shadow of doubt the association may have (rightfully) cast. For any athlete to work with a convicted steroid guru for any amount of time is suspect. "Only a year and a half" is a year and a half too long. Period.

14y ago

brick_wall

they dont work together anymore. they only worked together for a year and a half. this flomo said he never left conte... If you don't think Ward - and anyone else working with Conte - is up for suspicion then I don't know what to say. There was a time where Ward actually backed off from his association with Conte because of the negative connotations. Turns out he never left. That said, Conte is no dummy and I doubt Ward is juicing...illegally.

14y ago

BartBears

People that change excuses when it's time to test-up make themselves look suspicious. At least pick an excuse and stick with it. I know, I was just joking....its funny how people get all offended and want to change the subject as if American fighters are all saints or sth

14y ago

oaklandstephen

and even if he actually takes the test, the fact that he's working with someone like conte who knows how to beat the test still leaves a question mark. they dont work together anymore. they only worked together for a year and a half.

14y ago

brick_wall

Anybody can say "I'm willing to take the tests". Actually doing it is another story, though. The fact that you would give credit to someone for simply uttering the statement is laughable to me. and even if he actually takes the test, the fact that he's working with someone like conte who knows how to beat the test still leaves a question mark.

14y ago

The_Gambler1981

It is certainly reasonable to ask that question, there is a lot to be gained and the risk isn't that bad.

14y ago

BartBears

The Bringer how could open a thread like this? You know damn well that American fighters dont cheat. Its Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Euros, Philippines......they are the suspects.

14y ago

oaklandstephen

1) ur dumb 2) ward only worked with conte for a year and a half.

14y ago

THE_REED

" ward is a true hero, let's bomb iran". :rofl::rofl::rofl: lol...........

14y ago

Weebler_I

The words of a jealous hearted but hurt lil mexican.. If Ward was anything but Black you'd be riding his di.ck lile a bicycle.. Well he's actually half-white and the son of an Irishman but this race stuff is stupid, it's funny how mods will delete all sorts of posts and threads yet let this stuff live.

14y ago

jrosales13

damn what a sh1t thread never knew you were this sad You shouldn't be talking about shitty threads sir.

14y ago

jrosales13

The words of a jealous hearted but hurt lil mexican.. If Ward was anything but Black you'd be riding his di.ck lile a bicycle.. What in Bringer history would make you believe that he's Mexican?

14y ago

LarryX

damn what a sh1t thread never knew you were this sad

14y ago

ringer

Wait a minute....Did I seriously just get accused of hating black fighters? You guys have seen my sig banners, right? And now you're accusing me of being Mexican? Do you guys know anything about me? :lol1:

14y ago

Ishy_Aytan

Bringer shut the **** up you hating *****!

14y ago

Light_Speed

Ward is a former olympic boxer, it's not like he's never been randomly tested in his life.

14y ago

deejd

For Donaire, definitely. Because much like Ward, he's made a ton of claims publicly about pushing for better testing, worked with Conte the same as Ward, and then when the time came, did absolutely nothing to make good on his promises. Klitschko is another story, though. I can't recall him pushing for OST in any of his fights. It seems to me he has no intention of pushing for it, and is content with standard testing. (Probably because of his history with 'roids.) So I wouldn't really have much of a thread to work with there other than your standard : "Do you think Vitali Klitschko is juicing?" Definitely, Klitschko's actually been adamant in his reluctance to implement random drug testing so I see what you're saying. But yeah, definitely make a thread for next Donaire fight because making this thread now could make you seem as though you have an ulterior motive haha!

14y ago

BattlingNelson

Clegg already gave you a source, Rick Reeno from boxingscene...Go read that article. There hasn't been any testing for this fight. or for any of the S6 fights. Power don't have anything to do with PED's...There are many different PED's out there that helps for many different reasons. You really believe if Malignaggi starts jucing(assuming that he's not) that he will start KO'ing mofo's left and right? :rofl: C'mon man... Ward did take a test postfight Kessler. I know that for a fact. As I have stated several times regarding this subjct, i find it questionable that Ward (and others) are working with Conte. It is also dubious that Ward craves stricter testing for the s6 final and yet fail to deliver. Same goes for Froch who wanted tests as Well. To my knowledge it is only Sauerland Fighters that is subject to random testing. They have to report their whereabouts to the german antidoping agency. So we Can only be sure that Abraham and Kessler are clean.

14y ago

ringer

If you can point me to any thread you have started to question Vitali then I will admit I'm wrong and will retract my statements. I'm not about to dig through my nearly 25,000 posts just to appease you : You have a "search" feature the same as I do, if my questioning of Ward bothers you that much, use it. I've questioned Vitali publicly before. And if you're implying I'm some sort of Klitschko superfan (as it seems you are), you're way off base. So will there be a thread for their next fights solely dedicated to random drug testing? For Donaire, definitely. Because much like Ward, he's made a ton of claims publicly about pushing for better testing, worked with Conte the same as Ward, and then when the time came, did absolutely nothing to make good on his promises. Klitschko is another story, though. I can't recall him pushing for OST in any of his fights. It seems to me he has no intention of pushing for it, and is content with standard testing. (Probably because of his history with 'roids.) So I wouldn't really have much of a thread to work with there other than your standard : "Do you think Vitali Klitschko is juicing?"

14y ago