Anyone else think that Khan's loss is quite possibly inconsequential/irrelevant as regards to his fight with Mayweather? Mayweather fights nothing like Peterson and is not a 'pressure' fighter.
I think Khan is brilliant and faster than Mayweather from the outside, he just has no inside game and can't take pressure well. Not saying he definitely beats Mayweather but Khan right now is like a better version of Judah in some ways (though with less power) and Judah infamously gave Floyd some problems during the first half of their fight but then gassed out and mentally quit, which is something Khan doesn't do, at least not as bad as Judah.
So as much as it's funny how bad Peterson owned Khan, I actually think that loss has very little relevance towards the outcome of a fight against Mayweather. I think Khan would still give Mayweather major problems and steal a lot of rounds on activity alone.
Truth! my question when people watch other fighters and make claims about what they will do against Floyd but what fighter has ever been able to do what they are known for against Floyd. Other that Castillo i can't think of another fight who has effectively used their game plan against him. Because Amir has speed and possible length on floyd he would have to develop a world class jab and get his foot work together rushing in throw flurries the way he does would spell disaster against Floyd
Threads like this and comments like that stuff about Peterson being able to pressure Floyd into submission makes me believe people may be watching Mayweather, but not actually SEEING what is going on the ring.
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Ricky knew he had to take some on the way in, but Cortez breaking them meant he had to work his way in over and over again which set him up perfectly for FMJ.
Back on topic, I don't see that FMJ is going to rough up Khan on the inside, stylistically it's not a good match-up for Floyd as Khan's handspeed is faster than his own. People point to Floyd's timing/counterpunching and maybe they're right but I can't see him gambling on that, I don't think the fight will happen.
Floyd beat Hatton cuz he's leagues above him no other reason. Cortez didn't let Hatton do his normal ruff housing bullsh!t. Same way with Khan, Floyd would sit back time him and punish him when he makes mistakes.
No he did not. This is a flomo created myth. Let me tell you what happened.
In the first four/five rounds Hatton is fresh, tries to make it an inside fight, Cortez pulls him off and separates them at every opportunity. This goes on round after round, he jumps in repeatedly and Hatton is forced to fight Mayweather's fight on the outside getting caught repeatedly as he comes in.
After 7 or so rounds Cortez sees Mayweather is on top, Hatton is spent by this point and Cortez stops breaking them up and Floyd begins to hold his own on the inside. This is when Uncle toothless tells Floyd 'you don't got to run anymore' and this is where the myth of Mayweather being able to fight on the inside is created.
After the fight a bunch of brainless flomos then claim Mayweather beat Hatton on the inside, ridiculous.
The truth is Mayweather could never match a fresh Hatton on the inside, all he could do was throw an elbow or hold on for Cortez to come rushing in.
The ride was fixed from the start, from the weight, to the venue, the ring size, to the ref, the judges...everything about it was designed to fcuk Hatton over and they managed it, just like they did with Khan last weekend.
Even if your sh*tty post was completely true, which it isn't, it's just the usual ramblings of a butthurt immature f*ggot, how could you conclude the bold. Mayweather fought Corley, Ndou, Baldomir and even Castillo inside better than he did Hatton.
Funnily enough I agree with a lot of that. Except the part where you said Peterson owned Khan, he didn't, he got a steal and Khan was 'jobbed'.
Mayweather isn't a pressure fighter and doesn't have an inside game worth sh*t.
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You ever get tired of being so dumb and butthurt? Floyd beat Hatton on the inside and he beat Castillo inside the pocket too once he made the decision to go there. His inside game is worth sh*t??? Do you butthurt cry babies even watch his fights.....he was beating Hernandez inside when he was 21. He slapped Corley and Ndou down fighting inside. Floyd's inside game is better than anyone right now.......
Whilst he isn't a pressure fighter, when he does pressure (Ortiz, SSM, Judah, Mitchell) he's still better at it than most, including Petersen.
Anyone else think that Khan's loss is quite possibly inconsequential/irrelevant as regards to his fight with Mayweather? Mayweather fights nothing like Peterson and is not a 'pressure' fighter.
I think Khan is brilliant and faster than Mayweather from the outside, he just has no inside game and can't take pressure well. Not saying he definitely beats Mayweather but Khan right now is like a better version of Judah in some ways (though with less power) and Judah infamously gave Floyd some problems during the first half of their fight but then gassed out and mentally quit, which is something Khan doesn't do, at least not as bad as Judah.
So as much as it's funny how bad Peterson owned Khan, I actually think that loss has very little relevance towards the outcome of a fight against Mayweather. I think Khan would still give Mayweather major problems and steal a lot of rounds on activity alone.
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Ricky knew he had to take some on the way in, but Cortez breaking them meant he had to work his way in over and over again which set him up perfectly for FMJ.
Back on topic, I don't see that FMJ is going to rough up Khan on the inside, stylistically it's not a good match-up for Floyd as Khan's handspeed is faster than his own. People point to Floyd's timing/counterpunching and maybe they're right but I can't see him gambling on that, I don't think the fight will happen.
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Weebler, Mayweather was constantly getting caught under Hatton's arm when ducking his hook and Cortez kept pulling apart in the first two rounds. From three onwards he let them fight more inside. If Hatton was already spent by then it doesn't say much for his conditioning. There was plenty of opportunity to fight inside from round four onwards but Hatton was being beaten there.
Mayweather also had to use some inside fighting to turn the tide against Judah after being beaten to the punch for the first four rounds. He got closer and broke Judah up to the body then went to the head.
I understand how bad you must've wanted Hatton to win, but he was never good enough despite being a good fighter and champion. The ref thing was a smokescreen to cover for his inability to effectively pressure Mayweather or deal with his superior offense. You were probably one of those who never dreamed May would knock him out, right? Nevemind, the check hook will only be remembered forever.
wait so why was Hatton "spent" according to this theory? Are you proposing that Cortez by pushing Hatton off Mayweather, completely nullified all of Hatton's energy? These are shocking revelations.
Cortez separating them meant Hatton had to hunt Floyd down after every break-up which allowed Floyd to get off when RH was coming in.
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Ricky knew he had to take some on the way in, but Cortez breaking them meant he had to work his way in over and over again which set him up perfectly for FMJ.
Back on topic, I don't see that FMJ is going to rough up Khan on the inside, stylistically it's not a good match-up for Floyd as Khan's handspeed is faster than his own. People point to Floyd's timing/counterpunching and maybe they're right but I can't see him gambling on that, I don't think the fight will happen.
No he did not. This is a flomo created myth. Let me tell you what happened.
In the first four/five rounds Hatton is fresh, tries to make it an inside fight, Cortez pulls him off and separates them at every opportunity. This goes on round after round, he jumps in repeatedly and Hatton is forced to fight Mayweather's fight on the outside getting caught repeatedly as he comes in.
After 7 or so rounds Cortez sees Mayweather is on top, Hatton is spent by this point and Cortez stops breaking them up and Floyd begins to hold his own on the inside. This is when Uncle toothless tells Floyd 'you don't got to run anymore' and this is where the myth of Mayweather being able to fight on the inside is created.
After the fight a bunch of brainless flomos then claim Mayweather beat Hatton on the inside, ridiculous.
The truth is Mayweather could never match a fresh Hatton on the inside, all he could do was throw an elbow or hold on for Cortez to come rushing in.
The ride was fixed from the start, from the weight, to the venue, the ring size, to the ref, the judges...everything about it was designed to fcuk Hatton over and they managed it, just like they did with Khan last weekend.
wait so why was Hatton "spent" according to this theory? Are you proposing that Cortez by pushing Hatton off Mayweather, completely nullified all of Hatton's energy? These are shocking revelations.
after which he'd hold anyway.
Hatton hardly held at all, it was Floyd doing the holding. They weren't getting tangled, Cortez was jumping in before they had a chance to do anything.
When Cortez got a hold of himself and let the guys fight inside
As I said, Hatton was spent by this point, this is where the myth comes from.
If Mayweather is such a great inside fighter, why are no other fights of his great work on the inside mentioned? it's always the Hatton fight and it's based on fcuk all quite frankly.
He is tailor made with his charging in with the lunging hook.
that's the point, you don't have to go charging in if it's an inside fight, Cortez separating them meant Hatton had to hunt Floyd down after every break-up which allowed Floyd to get off when RH was coming in.
You call me a revisionist, but you have put forth a fair few revisionist myths yourself.
We're not going to agree on this, Ricky didn't get a fair shake from the ref and Cortez has since been discredited by most as an elite ref. It is what it is.
I should add I'm not blind to Mayweather's talent, he's one of the best to lace em up, but if something isn't sporting in boxing it's fair and right that people flag it up.
Ahhhhhh, now it all comes out. Didn't take much did it, Weebler.
First, yes Cortez was a little over zealous in breaking them up. But most of the time, they were either getting tangled or there was no actual action on the inside in the first two/three rounds. Hatton wasn't actually doing anything after charging forwards and he hardly threw punches while doing so, unless it was one of his predictable hooks- after which he'd hold anyway. He used to fight very well inside until his fight with Collazo where he was hitting and holding for dear life on the instructions of Billy Graham. He then took it to another level against Juan Urango, at time just rushing to grab like a sailor to a mast in the late rounds.
When Cortez got a hold of himself and let the guys fight inside, it was Mayweather digging in the body shots and winning the "rough stuff" battle. Yes, at times it was dirty, but this was exactly what Hatton said he was coming in to do. He wanted to make Mayweather fight and he got his wish. Hatton spent the whole fight headhunting like a fool and trying to wrestle when inside, instead of getting close but leaving space to work.
You use your revisionist excuses if you want, but Mayweather was opening up as early as the third round where a three punch combo cut Hatton. And if Hatton was spent after six rounds, maybe his kebab and guiness diet between fights finally caught up with him. There were clearly points when both fighters were close and it was Mayweather getting in the shots.
Keep on believing all you want as it probably gives you comfort, but in all honesty, I don't see a scenario where Hatton wins against Mayweather. He is tailor made with his charging in with the lunging hook. He got check hooked at least two or three times before the big one- and still kept lunging with the left hook.
Sorry Dave "I'll stand by and let Ricky low blow or throw elbows" Parris wasn't there to help him, but that's boxing. Ricky got worked and merc'd. Deal with it.
Weebler, the fact that you have a picture of Hatton under your name tells me all I need to know. If you're a fan of his, you must've seen Mayweather hand him his first defeat (and probably still hurting from it). If you did, you'd knw your statement about Mayweather not having any inside game is as inept as Hatton's "bullrush" style. Mayweather owned Hatton inside. He out toughed and outfought Hatton on the inside with sharp, short bodyshots amidst al the wrestling.
No he did not. This is a flomo created myth. Let me tell you what happened.
In the first four/five rounds Hatton is fresh, tries to make it an inside fight, Cortez pulls him off and separates them at every opportunity. This goes on round after round, he jumps in repeatedly and Hatton is forced to fight Mayweather's fight on the outside getting caught repeatedly as he comes in.
After 7 or so rounds Cortez sees Mayweather is on top, Hatton is spent by this point and Cortez stops breaking them up and Floyd begins to hold his own on the inside. This is when Uncle toothless tells Floyd 'you don't got to run anymore' and this is where the myth of Mayweather being able to fight on the inside is created.
After the fight a bunch of brainless flomos then claim Mayweather beat Hatton on the inside, ridiculous.
The truth is Mayweather could never match a fresh Hatton on the inside, all he could do was throw an elbow or hold on for Cortez to come rushing in.
The ride was fixed from the start, from the weight, to the venue, the ring size, to the ref, the judges...everything about it was designed to fcuk Hatton over and they managed it, just like they did with Khan last weekend.
Can't believe no one has said anything about Floyd's timming. Just like Peterson said, he knew Khan was fast and explosive but Peterson knew he could neutralize his speed with timing. Now Peterson didn't let Khan's attempt to overwhelmed him with fast combinations and in and out strategy, and lateral running. Peterson quickly picked up on Khan's lack of defense and inability to successfully counter and set him up for his own attack. Peterson would have done better had he cut of the ring and used his jab more. Khan didn't adjust to Peterson until Freddie told him to use upper cut when Peterson came in too low. Khan looked very ametuer. All these flaws give Floyd the edge and he will capatilize on this. I can't believe those who say Floyd can't fight on the ropes when he has demontraded the opposite on numerous occasions against solid light welterweights and welterweights like Ortiz and Shane. His even proven that he can trade punches on the inside and push his opponents back. What he wont do is chase his opponent like Peterson did.