By 2013, I think Chavez Jr will be better than Canelo!

By 2013 Chavez jr will be a super middleweight.

First, i wanna say that I think Canelo beats Jr if the fight happened right now. But if the fight happens down the road heres what i see: Judging by their last fights, Chavez Jr has shown improvements. He moves around the ring pretty well, better head movement, and hand speed looks better. Canelo, on the other hand, looks the same. No head movement what so ever, hand speed is the same, footwork has not changed, still looks a little slow and nothing new in his skill set. Canelo looks predictable now since he relies on his right hand to do everything. Roach and Ariza are doing a hell of a job with Jr, I think Golden Boy needs to have a talk with Canelo about getting a better trainer or Jr will surpass him in a couple of years. Canelo's problem is that he beats shot,journeymen fighters with ease and thinks his heavy hands will do the same to Mayweather,Martinez and other better fighters. Chavez knows his limitations and works hard on bettering himself every fight. All comes down to Alvarez being ginger and thinking his better than he really is, he got potential but so did Jeff Lacy apparently...........

The OP is sorely mistake. Canelo is the younger fighter BUT has equal experience. Canelo has also fought better competition than Jr. (which isn't that hard). Jr has already or is nearly reaching is maximum potential. Canelo has tapped into a lower percentage of his potential and has a higher ceiling. Canelo is better today and should be on the incline for another 7-8 years. Chavez jr will be peaking in the next 2-3 years. The only thing Chavez has over Canelo is that he has a better name.

Would you think I am crazy if I said I think a chavez jr. would beat a canelo right now at 160?

I think so as well but then again Canelo is a lot younger and still has a long way to go. Chavez JR looked good in his last fight but honestly it was against an older Manfredo JR. His fight with Zbik was a better fight to judge his skills off of. We will see who he fights next. I think both guys are improving steadily to be honest. Canelo has some stamina issues though I think it will cost him in the long run against better competition.

He should get Robert Garcia as his trainer.

he's bout to get that ass beat by Martinez.. what does it matter how good he'll be in a few years? lol

I've always said this. And being promoted by Top Rank, I can see Jr fighting another 50 bums. Canelo will still be better than Chavez jr, because of the opposition faced = quality over quantity.

In 2013 Chavez Jr will still be fighting tomatoe cans. What a FRAUD. With his current record, would we be talking about him if he didn't have a famous last name? I've always said this. And being promoted by Top Rank, I can see Jr fighting another 50 bums.

to me chavez jr is at his peak and he has fought nowhere near the level of opposition canelo has. zbik being jr's best win which many people thought he lost canelo has fought top 10 opposition and has mostly impressed against the likes of rhodes, cintron and to a certain extent with baldomir (even though he had been inactive). he has stopped them all but has looked less impressive in doing so unless canelo is being matched with championship level opposition in the near future, which is a good possibility, he will likely wear his body out and will have to retire at an early age like barrera and morales (who has recently revived his career but still has a lot of questions to answer) if chavez jr fights martinez he will likely get the beating of a lifetime and seeing as he's still young panda cant see him being succesful at the higher weight classes. if arum really entices cotto to fight jr panda sees cotto beating him up en route to a decision win to be concise, jr is too easy to be hit and although roach is a great offensive coach panda cant see him improve on his defense which will hurt his career in the long run True, I do agree that Canelo has faced the tougher opposition. But Canelo has looked a little too patient to the point of making his fight a little boring, and on the other hand Jr had a fan friendly style against Manfredo. Cintron is better than Manfredo, so that may be why.

In 2013 Chavez Jr will still be fighting tomatoe cans. What a FRAUD. With his current record, would we be talking about him if he didn't have a famous last name?

No he won't, he just doesn't have the talent and has the athletic ability of the average joe. He's showing some improvement though.:dunno:

to me chavez jr is at his peak and he has fought nowhere near the level of opposition canelo has. zbik being jr's best win which many people thought he lost canelo has fought top 10 opposition and has mostly impressed against the likes of rhodes, cintron and to a certain extent with baldomir (even though he had been inactive). he has stopped them all but has looked less impressive in doing so unless canelo is being matched with championship level opposition in the near future, which is a good possibility, he will likely wear his body out and will have to retire at an early age like barrera and morales (who has recently revived his career but still has a lot of questions to answer) if chavez jr fights martinez he will likely get the beating of a lifetime and seeing as he's still young panda cant see him being succesful at the higher weight classes. if arum really entices cotto to fight jr panda sees cotto beating him up en route to a decision win to be concise, jr is too easy to be hit and although roach is a great offensive coach panda cant see him improve on his defense which will hurt his career in the long run