The ref warned Khan 5 times and in round 6(1:25) told him he was gonna take a point away.
Then in the end of round 7, takes a point away after 6 warnings.
Then after the 8th warning in round 12, takes away another point.
I didn't even count all pocket holding warning that Khan got, which probably go into the 20+ and all the pushing he didn't get warned about which would've taken this into 15+ warnings just for pushing.
Khan brought that on himself, he's mad because he couldn't get away with the stuff he's use to getting away with. Back to the drawing, show'em how not to push and hold constantly, Roach. If you do hold Khan, be sneaky about it, don't make it so blatant.
Did anyone count how many headlocks Khan put Peterson in?
I was going to, but would've taken too much time. But I heard "Khan stop holding him" more than I heard "Khan stop pushing him".
The ref could've easily taken points away for holding and didn't, Khan needs to be more sneaky if he's gonna hold.
Like most are saying, he needs to work on his inside game.
Peterson is what Maidana shoulda been
When the fight gets tougher, Khan has a problem. There was no KO's or knockdowns this fight so he had to last 12 rounds and didn't do a good job
The EXACT same thing will happen in the rematch because Peterson is a very solid boxer
The ref clearly said stop holding Khan, stop pushing Khan, don't do that Khan at least 20 times. I don't recall him telling Peterson anything about leading with his head. Good fight that turned controversial impart to the refs incompetence to be non biased.
Peterson pushing is irrelevant imo since he was the agressor. 9 timess outta 10 they will let agressive behavior stand as opposed to Khan pushing Peterson just because he lacked a better defensive maneuver to create space between himself and Peterson.
It looked more to me like Peterson was trying to avoid being held and shedding Khan off, not actually pushing. Khan would push off to create space and avoid fighting inside because all he could do is put on the earmuffs when inside. The guy has absolutely no inside game and it showed again just as it did in the Maidana fight. Khan is the superior fighter IMO and Roach needs to diversify his training. Quite a few of the guys he trains seem to have the same lack of defense, head movement and can't fight inside.
Peterson pushing is irrelevant imo since he was the agressor. 9 timess outta 10 they will let agressive behavior stand as opposed to Khan pushing Peterson just because he lacked a better defensive maneuver to create space between himself and Peterson.
I have no issue with either deduction.
Khan was warned plenty of times and was given a last warning. After a point is taken, if you carry on you will get another one taken. Simple as that. Whether it's the 1st round or 12th round. No one's fault but Khan's.
Jim Watt was saying "He's going to get another point taken if he carries on" and he outright carried on.
I saw the second deduction coming from a mile away.
i agree. the hbo team is completely cluesless as usual when emanuel steward or roy jones isnt there to add some actual boxing knowledge to the mix. and all these dumb mainstream fans just go by what they say rather than what acctually happened.
khan cant fight for **** on the inside and resorts to blatant grappling 100% of the time. pushing, holding and even headlocking peterson in order to stop the fight from happening. the ref couldve DQ'ed him ffs, so the two points werent unfair at all.
great job by peterson who won this fight fair and square and was clearly the better man. im just mad i didnt bet on it like i planned to. wouldve been 160$ richer if i did.
I don't fault the HBO team too much because they have headphones on, but I rewatched the fight this morning and heard the ref clearly everytime.
Khan lost control of the fight. At the beginning he was in control especially w/ that questionable kd but after that he was trying desperately to keep Peterson off of him. I mean everything from running (actual running), pushing, pushing Peterson's head down, and clinching. If he had control of the fight and Peterson it wouldn't have been necessary to do all of that. It's nothing wrong w/ pushing but Khan made it so obvious. It was also obvious of hbo commentators but I give Larry merchant props for being somewhat fair in his post fight interview.
The ref warned Khan 5 times and in round 6(1:25) told him he was gonna take a point away.
Then in the end of round 7, takes a point away after 6 warnings.
Then after the 8th warning in round 12, takes away another point.
I didn't even count all pocket holding warning that Khan got, which probably go into the 20+ and all the pushing he didn't get warned about which would've taken this into 15+ warnings just for pushing.
Khan brought that on himself, he's mad because he couldn't get away with the stuff he's use to getting away with. Back to the drawing, show'em how not to push and hold constantly, Roach. If you do hold Khan, be sneaky about it, don't make it so blatant.
i agree. the hbo team is completely cluesless as usual when emanuel steward or roy jones isnt there to add some actual boxing knowledge to the mix. and all these dumb mainstream fans just go by what they say rather than what acctually happened.
khan cant fight for **** on the inside and resorts to blatant grappling 100% of the time. pushing, holding and even headlocking peterson in order to stop the fight from happening. the ref couldve DQ'ed him ffs, so the two points werent unfair at all.
great job by peterson who won this fight fair and square and was clearly the better man. im just mad i didnt bet on it like i planned to. wouldve been 160$ richer if i did.
I'm a little iffy on the point deductions, but I certainly don't think they were wrong. He was warning him a lot.
I was very happy with the ref, because it's not very often you see a ref that lets fighters fight out of clinches. Khan clearly hasn't had refs like that very often, he kept waiting for the ref to break them up while Peterson was pounding away.
Why didn't Peterson get warned once for pushing as well because he was doing it just as much to back Khan against the ropes.
He also warned Peterson just as much for not keeping his head up and also didn't say sh1t when Lamont was holding khan with his Jab.
I'm not a Khan fan, nor did I give a sh1t about either fighter, but I can't believe posters are making excuses for that b.s. ref job last night......pathetic.
Are you insane?
The amount of fouls Khan committed last night aren't even comparable to the fouls Peterson committed.
I love how you some of you guys are trying to put this on the ref, If Khan doesn't push guess how many points he gets deducted, "0".
You trying to compare the few times Lamont pushed on the ropes, to the constant pushing Khan did everywhere in the ring, that's pathetic.
Why didn't Peterson get warned once for pushing as well because he was doing it just as much to back Khan against the ropes.
He also warned Peterson just as much for not keeping his head up and also didn't say sh1t when Lamont was holding khan with his Jab.
I'm not a Khan fan, nor did I give a sh1t about either fighter, but I can't believe posters are making excuses for that b.s. ref job last night......pathetic.
khan threw a mean uppercut too after the break. amir wasn't going to get away with his usual antics no not this time. joe cooper wasn't going to lay down for nobody.
I agree with the first point deduction, The second one is way too biased IMO but hey thats what happen when you fight in someone else's hometown right?
I completely agree man. BUT the warnings were the kind of "hey don't do this" as opposed to the hard "one more time and you get one point taken away!!" kind of warnings.
This isn't elementary school man. I'm pretty sure boxers understand the concept of a referee. Chances are if he's telling you not to do something, you shouldn't keep doing it.
Why warn a guy for something that fighters have been doing and getting away with for 100 years.
Ali was a master at the hold, push off, 1-2 move. Never got warned once for it.
Boxers know but the ref is there to stay in control of things. If they thought boxers would abide by every rule they wouldn't have a ref up there.
Khan was clearly being ignorant, I agree he deserved it. I'm saying that the ref should have been more vocal and aggressive with letting Khan know the severity of his actions. That's all.
But like I said Khan was playing the fool, even after he got the first point taken away he continued to do it so he definitely deserved it.
I love fact that he was playing the victim, the constant holding and pushing warning from the ref, you gets no sympathy from me.