I for one am a fan. He has skills, can box outside, fight in the pocket, high ring iq when he wants to, and love that he can be orthodox and unorthodox in his way of fighting at the same time, and no I don't mean righty and southpaw even though he switches up and it works.My question is, is his success due to his non european way of fighting amidst fighters who have that straight up european style. I believe his style had benefitted him more than anything, giving him rhythm and looseness compared to most euro corner parts. Anyone agree?
I believe is unique style is created due to a variety of training. Correct me if Im wrong, but I believe Pirog first learned boxing in Eastern European boxing gyms, and then relocated to American gyms and developed a new style based on their training.
both are effective styles, and he has learned to balance and switch between them during fights, which makes his style unpredictable and gives him the beneifts of both styles.
Unfortunately, I think he also still has the negative aspects of both styles, which showed up in one of his more recent fights where he struggled a bit more than his opposition suggested he would.
But, he certainly is interesting to watch.
No he never trained or learned anything in the US. Everything is essentially self taught, he trained himself for the start of his pro career and his two current trainers have been a great addition. He has watched film of guys like SRL and taken moves he finds useful effective and amalgamated what he thinks works.
So most of his success is attributed to this mesh of styles correct? That's what I believe as well. Didn't know that he came and trained in the states as well. I'll look it up online but do you know where he went to train?
He didn't
You mean against Maciel? A really under-rated fighter who is a genuinely solid contender at 154?
Pirog also had a neck injury in that fight and almost cancelled. A chiropractor helped him minimize the pain before that fight and he now has one as a part of his team permenetly because of how useful he finds what they do.
Maciel reminded me alot of the Donaire-Narvaez fight, Both were Argentinian guys with a solid high guard D who were just there to survive. It makes for ugly fights and along with Pirogs neck seem to explain that showing. Pirog's last fight vs Martyrosian he looked his old smooth self.
yeah pirog is nice, granted jacobs was a prospect but still, pirog came to him in the us and came to win not just show up and try to win. He's good, and I still see him improving especially if he gets fights I just hope he doesnt get complacent with his current skill set due to a) fighting mostly in europe or b)doesn't get the good fights because people avoid him so he starts losing that hunger. Good guy wish him the best.
I believe is unique style is created due to a variety of training. Correct me if Im wrong, but I believe Pirog first learned boxing in Eastern European boxing gyms, and then relocated to American gyms and developed a new style based on their training.
both are effective styles, and he has learned to balance and switch between them during fights, which makes his style unpredictable and gives him the beneifts of both styles.
Unfortunately, I think he also still has the negative aspects of both styles, which showed up in one of his more recent fights where he struggled a bit more than his opposition suggested he would.
But, he certainly is interesting to watch.
AFAIK he never trained in the States. There was a long and insightful interview with him on BS, can't find it now. He also had a low key amateur career, so his ring comfort is impressive considering the number of pro fights he's had.
Going into the Jacobs fight, I was interested to see if his style would work against a fast guy, I had my doubts. That didn't prove anything definitive, but it's safe to say he's not slick only in his head like Froch.
The Compubox preview for the Jacobs fight compared Pirog to Margarito, lol.
I believe is unique style is created due to a variety of training. Correct me if Im wrong, but I believe Pirog first learned boxing in Eastern European boxing gyms, and then relocated to American gyms and developed a new style based on their training.
both are effective styles, and he has learned to balance and switch between them during fights, which makes his style unpredictable and gives him the beneifts of both styles.
Unfortunately, I think he also still has the negative aspects of both styles, which showed up in one of his more recent fights where he struggled a bit more than his opposition suggested he would.
But, he certainly is interesting to watch.
You mean against Maciel? A really under-rated fighter who is a genuinely solid contender at 154?
Keeps what up? he has 1 notable win against another prospect like himself and 18 Russian turnip farmers.
LMFAO! @ turnip farmers. is that the russian equivalents of bus-drivers and parole officers that roy jones dominated for a decade? :lol1:
I believe is unique style is created due to a variety of training. Correct me if Im wrong, but I believe Pirog first learned boxing in Eastern European boxing gyms, and then relocated to American gyms and developed a new style based on their training.
both are effective styles, and he has learned to balance and switch between them during fights, which makes his style unpredictable and gives him the beneifts of both styles.
Unfortunately, I think he also still has the negative aspects of both styles, which showed up in one of his more recent fights where he struggled a bit more than his opposition suggested he would.
But, he certainly is interesting to watch.
So most of his success is attributed to this mesh of styles correct? That's what I believe as well. Didn't know that he came and trained in the states as well. I'll look it up online but do you know where he went to train?
He hasn't done enough to deserve a title shot yet, really Andy Lee should get 1st crack if anyone should.
lee fight's slow and awkward he was one of my faves coming in but... he doesn't have the fire power or the coordination to do damage. I can see it going the distance after Pirog begins to frustrate him with movement but i think Lee's left will be corked all night trying to avoid the right which Pirog has a great right! Either BY UD or TKO PIROG takes it.
I believe is unique style is created due to a variety of training. Correct me if Im wrong, but I believe Pirog first learned boxing in Eastern European boxing gyms, and then relocated to American gyms and developed a new style based on their training.
both are effective styles, and he has learned to balance and switch between them during fights, which makes his style unpredictable and gives him the beneifts of both styles.
Unfortunately, I think he also still has the negative aspects of both styles, which showed up in one of his more recent fights where he struggled a bit more than his opposition suggested he would.
But, he certainly is interesting to watch.
Keeps what up? he has 1 notable win against another prospect like himself and 18 Russian turnip farmers.
This is the difference in regards to what I'M looking for and what your looking for. If dude is such a cake walk tell that to Danny boys promoter and get him in the ring with Sergio. you know why cause that mother is gunna get licked like danny boi! TRUTH! Tell me when all roads lead to PIROG that he's not the truth! as long as he stays focused he'll rule his dev fa sho!