Todays top 10 heavyweights

And Adamek has? Don't get me wrong, I abhor Haye as much as the next guy, but he pisses all over Adamek at HW - and CW for that matter This goes back to my original post where I said this was based on skills and h2h projections. Haye is more talented, but certainly not more skilled than Adamek. H2h I think Adamek is the better heavyweight, but that is certainly arguable unless they fight.

And if I looked like Brad Pitt I'd get more ***** than I currently get Lets hope there is a rematch, and we can see if that right hand made the difference.

Are you blind mate? That was one of the biggest robberies for many a year I think Chisora is a grade A twat, but he beat Helenius, comfortably Not for me. Lara vs Williams takes that title.

If not for the broken hand he could have gotten Del Boy out of there. And if I looked like Brad Pitt I'd get more ***** than I currently get

I don't think Chisora beat him clearly. I scored the fight for Helenius, but maybe judge it on how the judges scored it. Chisora gave away a lot a rounds, by not throwing any punches until the last 30 seconds. I can understand how some gave the fight to Chisora though, After the 8 round Helenius was really struggling, with the pace but I still had him winning the 12th, which was decisive Helenius, injured his hand, and his stamina let him down. Are you blind mate? That was one of the biggest robberies for many a year I think Chisora is a grade A twat, but he beat Helenius, comfortably

You're clearly a mad man (or on the Sauerland pay roll). Helenius caught a lot of the shots on the gloves. Helenius never troubled by Chisora's power. Helenius wobbled him in the first round. If not for the broken hand he could have gotten Del Boy out of there. Chisora was the aggressor, pressed the action, but Helenius won a few of the early rounds, and the rounds where Chisora showboated and didn't pressure, he threw away.

My only problem is with Haye being ranked so high. He hasn't shown me squat in either the skills or h2h department to deserve such a lofty spot. If I were basing the list on pure talent, sure. Nice list though. :fing02: And Adamek has? Don't get me wrong, I abhor Haye as much as the next guy, but he pisses all over Adamek at HW - and CW for that matter

I don't think Chisora beat him clearly. I scored the fight for Helenius, but maybe judge it on how the judges scored it. Chisora gave away a lot a rounds, by not throwing any punches until the last 30 seconds. I can understand how some gave the fight to Chisora though, After the 8 round Helenius was really struggling, with the pace but I still had him winning the 12th, which was decisive Helenius, injured his hand, and his stamina let him down. You're clearly a mad man (or on the Sauerland pay roll).

Just curious as to how you guys can have Helenius so high AND above Chisora who clearly beat him last week? I don't think Chisora beat him clearly. I scored the fight for Helenius, but maybe judge it on how the judges scored it. Chisora gave away a lot a rounds, by not throwing any punches until the last 30 seconds. I can understand how some gave the fight to Chisora though, After the 8 round Helenius was really struggling, with the pace but I still had him winning the 12th, which was decisive Helenius, injured his hand, and his stamina let him down.

No.1 Wlad No.2 Vitali No.3 Haye No.4 Solis No.5 Helenius No.6 Povetkin No.7 Adamek No.8 Chisora No.9 Chambers No.10 Arreola 1.Wlad 2.Vitali 3.Helenius 4.Adamek 5.Haye 6.Povetkin 7.Fury 8.Dimitrenko 9.Chisora 10.Arreola Just curious as to how you guys can have Helenius so high AND above Chisora who clearly beat him last week?

1.Wlad 2.Vitali 3.Helenius 4.Adamek 5.Haye 6.Povetkin 7.Fury 8.Dimitrenko 9.Chisora 10.Arreola

No.1 Wlad No.2 Vitali No.3 Haye No.4 Solis No.5 Helenius No.6 Povetkin No.7 Adamek No.8 Chisora No.9 Chambers No.10 Arreola

good list jab. Agree mostly, but if we rate them on skills and h2h potential, i still wouldn't put Chisora anywhere near a list like this. He obviously beat helenius, but i still think he sucks more or less. division is really thin though, and theres not a lot of guys to contend for the 10th spot. Fury looks so mediocre at times, Boytsov Wach and Perez needs to step up in competition etc.

Obviously Wlad number one & Vitali number two. After that Povetkin's the only legimate contender as he's the only decent fighter who hasn't lost to them. Mind you the only reason that's the case is he hasn't fought them yet, soon as he does he'll more than likely lose. I think Haye comfortably beats every heavyweight bar the Klitschkos. Theres a LOT of bums out there who people hype up because there desparate for someone to challenge the two brothers. Helenius proved against Chisora just how ordinary he is, Just as Chisora proved the same thing against Fury & Fury proved the same thing against.... well everyone. Most of the Bums out there have already lost to the Klitschkos; Chambers, Areola, Solis, Chagaev etc. Adamek's not a bum buts he's too small and fairly limited to be honest. On a more positive note David Price looks a good prospect as does Deontay Wilder.

Haye's retired for half a year now, and according to Adam Booth he has already declined a lot in sparring. He don't belong to 3.

Move Haye to #3 and I completely agree.

My top 10. 1. Wladimir Klitschko 2. Vitali Klitshcko 3. Alexander Povetkin 4. Odlanier Solis 5. Eddie Chambers 6. Tomasz Adamek 7. Derek Chisora 8. Chris Arreola 9. Derek Chisora 10. Robert Helenius Not really much difference to anybody elses...which is scary tbh. The division will only get worse when the brothers finally hang the gloves up. I mean, the world title fights will probably be more exciting but i reckon a lot of belt swapping will take place... Im not sure about ranking Solis above Chambers...i was also tempted to put Tony Thompson into the 10 but idk... You have Chisora twice.

My top 10. 1. Wladimir Klitschko 2. Vitali Klitshcko 3. Alexander Povetkin 4. Odlanier Solis 5. Eddie Chambers 6. Tomasz Adamek 7. Derek Chisora 8. Chris Arreola 9. Derek Chisora 10. Robert Helenius Not really much difference to anybody elses...which is scary tbh. The division will only get worse when the brothers finally hang the gloves up. I mean, the world title fights will probably be more exciting but i reckon a lot of belt swapping will take place... Im not sure about ranking Solis above Chambers...i was also tempted to put Tony Thompson into the 10 but idk... Is Chisora really good enough to be in the list twice?:boxing:

I was kinda basing my list on pure talent really. I dont think anyone below the Klitschko's has what I would call a good resume, some solid ones in there but no good ones (Including Haye). So I went for talent. Fair enough. Outside of the Klits the division is rubbish anyways. Hopefully it improves in the near future, but there's no sign of it.

Deontay Wilder is the most statistically dominant Heavyweight of all time. So until a blueprint is drafted up on how to crack the Deontay Wilder puzzle. 1) Deontay Wilder >9001) err'body else Touche'.......:usa2: