I had **** to do, but i finally watched it. I thought i was going to see a war like the first one, instead we got a defensive match, and worst of all it was stopped over a swollen eye when it was starting to heat up. I just believe that Cotto deserved to beat Margarito without the stoppage, or Margarito should've been given the green light to try for the stoppage, and leave no excuses for such a controversial rematch. If there was a fight that should've kept going , it was this one, it needed to end at the hands of Cotto or Margarito, not the docs.
BTW, Cotto boxed well, wasn't my cup of tea, but it was a great performance
oh well, and the waiting continues for the next great fight.
Trust me buddy, pussy is something that is not missing in my life. I hate and love everyone the same. I have close friends that are Rican. You can quote me on this, if Cotto fights fag Mayweather I'm going to pray Cotto beats him.
But he's not going to . Cotto eats as many power punches as he drinks liquor shots when he's not in training camp.
Cotto is a very good fighter but stats don't lie. The amount of power punches he takes is always high, and against a precise puncher like Mayweather, he will be shut out. If by some chance Cotto is in the zone that night, at best he wins four rounds.
That's it.
I can't see Cotto beating Mayweather.
See? It's possible to be Puerto Rican AND not believe in Cotto sometimes. :rofl:
What I find more hilarious you guys making a big deal out of some of those fans complaining but yet for years you guys did the same. Seems your broken egos were slightly repaired with a Cotto victory.[/QUOTe
dude stop being so bitter....u have always been sounding like you need to get laid, dont hate ricans and ricans shouldnt hate mexicans...latinos represent in boxing instead of looking at as 2 different places look at as a culture
you stop a fight when a fighter does not answer the questions correctly you stop a fight when a fighter can no longer protect himself and isnt fighting back that wasnt the case just because Cotto boxed well its not reason to stop the fight
I had given Tony rounds 4 and 9 and I think he might have won the 7th round
whats crazy is that my score card and I know you disagree all three judges each gave Tony one of those rounds as well in other words in terms of my score card the fight was till there to be won.
But I again will be straight this wasnt going to the cards Margarito was making it his fight by the end of the 9th and it was clear Cotto was tired the 10th round will always be a mystery but I do not believe miguel had enough left to do what he was doing earlier in the fight.
I believe we would have had a Margarito ending to the fight
This^^^^^^^ By the end of the 9th cotto looked like he was about to pass out while tony looked like he was getting ready to kill someone.
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Not at all. 3 different judges and each one gave Margarito a different round. You can definitely score 3 rounds for Margarito in this fight.
1 round and it being different rounds means it was a "gimme" round. They gave him the round because he did better than he had been the other rounds. It wasn't because they were so competitive. He did do better in 4 and 5, but he didn't decisively win the round. You could GIVE him a round or two max, but he didn't earn them.
10oz gloves
No reyes
It's more than just plaster buddy, the entire fight was different for many reasons.
Yeah the lack of reyes gloves are what made Margarito unable to hurt Cotto or have him in any real trouble. yeah right.
i gave tony 2 rounds and that's being generous, also gave him the 9th ... although I wished they should have at least given tony one more round, I dont see the fight changing in his favor...
you stop a fight when a fighter does not answer the questions correctly you stop a fight when a fighter can no longer protect himself and isnt fighting back that wasnt the case just because Cotto boxed well its not reason to stop the fight
I had given Tony rounds 4 and 9 and I think he might have won the 7th round
whats crazy is that my score card and I know you disagree all three judges each gave Tony one of those rounds as well in other words in terms of my score card the fight was till there to be won.
But I again will be straight this wasnt going to the cards Margarito was making it his fight by the end of the 9th and it was clear Cotto was tired the 10th round will always be a mystery but I do not believe miguel had enough left to do what he was doing earlier in the fight.
I believe we would have had a Margarito ending to the fightthe commission stopped the fight at the right time. margarito's eye was swollen shut and any more of that fight would result in further beatdown like in pac-marg.
also lol @ you stating that margarito still had a chance when even according to you he had won 2 rounds at most up to the 9th. it was a brutal one sided beatdown administered by cotto and you could almost feel the pain he inflicted on that eye everytime he connected. margarito on the other hand hardly got a punch in.
For those who don't have real life experience with either Reyes or Everlast gloves, I'll explain:
8oz. Reyes gloves are the quintessential puncher's glove. Horsehair, very soft foam. These are the infamous ones.
10oz. Reyes gloves are actually softer gloves than most would think, because they're puncher's gloves 'by association.' In other words, they're not nearly as favorable to the puncher as, say, a 10oz. Grant glove.
If you'll notice, fighters in the higher weight classes rarely ever wear Reyes gloves. Why? Because they have to wear the 10oz. versions which are actually not very good for a puncher. 10oz. Grant gloves, 10oz. Everlast MX gloves are both more favorable for power to a 10oz. Reyes glove.
Also, the Everlast MX glove is the Everlast equivalent of a Reyes glove. It's made with quilted horsehair and foam, just like a Reyes. The only difference is that their 10oz. gloves are more of a punchers glove than a pair of 10oz. Reyes.
In the first fight, Cotto and Margarito wore 8oz. Reyes. In this fight, they'll be wearing 10oz. Everlast MX. The MX gloves are more suitable for action than Reyes at 10oz., and therefore Margarito is not being handicapped in any way by having to wear Everlast MX gloves as opposed to Reyes. The point is moot.
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Do you work for everlast?
Anybody who knows a little about boxing knows that Reyes are the best puncher gloves.
Ps
I don;t care about Margarito
There is a guy that works for everlast in the forum. Cotto usually use the MX everlast.
Made for the boxer who favors power.
› Premium Mexican leather provides an even punching surface while giving a sleek outer appearance
› Custom horsehair and foam blend allows for optimal power transference
› Carefully handcrafted for superior quality and comfort
We should ask him.
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Not at all. 3 different judges and each one gave Margarito a different round. You can definitely score 3 rounds for Margarito in this fight.
Show the scorecards to see which round was given by the judges.
You could also look at that a different way and make the arguement that he didn't win any round clearly.
Yeah but its also very possible to give him three. The people watching it around me gave Marg 2 or 3 rounds.
And for the other part of this thread, 10 oz Reyes are not punches gloves. The 8 oz gloves are. Sorry ;)
tony eye wasint that bad.Look at murrays fcking eyes,Both of them where
fcked up.Tony still had a good eye to with.Oh well.
Had his eye socket not been crushed by Pac, I dont have any doubts that they would have let the fight continue. Given the fact that he had extensive surgery to get the eye repaired and all the hurdles he had to go thru just to get licensed in NY, I think everyone pretty much knew that the fight would be stopped if Cotto made good on his word and attacked the eye till it appeared damaged. Imagine the outcry had Cotto pounded on that eye for 3 more rounds resulting in permanent damage/vision loss/blindness for Margarito. Then we would be hearing......"why wasnt this fight stopped once Marg's eye was swollen shut!!!"
If the 10 oz Reyes gloves are more of a punchers glove, wouldn't Margs eye swell shut that much faster?
Do you know what got that eye started swelling? there is a reason they showed 1 replay of that, it was a thumb from the glove, the reyes gloves have the thumbs stitched down alot better you dont get as many thumbs with those gloves the everlast is entirely different design.
So I cant say it would have been swelling much faster what I can say is the thumb wouldnt have hit that eye as clean as it did with the everlast glove, and the stitching on the side of the everlast thumb is what started the bleeding.
But you do have a point, However the gloves over all feel different each and every one of them, so when you punch with a glove your not used to you feel a bit off set by it, and when you consider the way the padding is different its not going to feel right.
But who knows I dont have a straight answer in your question but I do want to point out that it was a thumb that started the eye
actually I would like to continue our discussion in regards to you saying that the 10 ounce reyes are not the punchers gloves lets debate that shall we? cus I believe you need to stand and own up to your **** at this stage
Do you work for everlast?
Anybody who knows a little about boxing knows that Reyes are the best puncher gloves.
Ps
I don;t care about Margarito
If the 10 oz Reyes gloves are more of a punchers glove, wouldn't Margs eye swell shut that much faster?
you gave margs 3 rounds please name them. he got one and it was a gift from harold. amazing people cant except. this **** is like wwe
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Not at all. 3 different judges and each one gave Margarito a different round. You can definitely score 3 rounds for Margarito in this fight.
actually I would like to continue our discussion in regards to you saying that the 10 ounce reyes are not the punchers gloves lets debate that shall we? cus I believe you need to stand and own up to your **** at this stage
Ok
They arent punchers gloves at 10oz
You guys are retards, stick to being butthurt about Marg:rofl:
Do you work for everlast?
Anybody who knows a little about boxing knows that Reyes are the best puncher gloves.
Ps
I don;t care about Margarito