Cotto put on a great performance and I don't want to say I told you so but I knew going to the body wasn't in the game plan for Cotto. He just needed to give angles and clinch.
Excellent job by him and Pedro Diaz in their preparation. I loved the way he moved, clinched on the inside and for the most part kept his back off the ropes.
I do think Marg was getting stronger as the fight wore on but it wasn't the same as the first fight because Marg couldn't connect the way he did the first time. He was missing a lot and his body shots weren't there for this fight. Cotto moved non stop and kep Marg from really touching him much.
Cotto was on his way to a UD easily, even though I think the last rounds would have been the toughest for him but he was looking much fresher because he wasn't getting hit as much as in the first fight.
Margarito is DONE. He looked like he was throwing punches underwater. He was never fast but he just looks like a worn fighter. No movement of the head like before, he wasn't catching any of Cotto's jab's or right hands. He was just coming forward with a slow jab and was being countered easily with a right hand.
I don't know whether Marg cheated in his fight with Cotto and I don't think this fight can tell you much of that because Marg really didn't connect like he did in the first fight but perception is everything. The perception is he did, he failed to redeem himself and Marg's career sad for me to say, is tainted and done.
It was a shame the fight ended on the eye swelling but I posted on Friday saying I thought that was one of my worries.
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Precisely. A lot of posters tend to see things black and white after a fight unfortunately. It was not "Cotto ran" nor was it "Margarito was going to get KO'd". Terrific post.
The reality is Marg's eye just can't hold up anymore and Cotto fought a completely different fight on Saturday. He moved a lot more and he never really got into trouble or stuck on the ropes for a long time until maybe the fourth round or so. He was tired (no doubt) because of the pressure but Cotto DID NOT allow Margarito to work by constantly moving. I still think Margarito can shred you to pieces when you're against the ropes, which is why "shell defense" Clottey lost the later rounds against Margarito by letting him tee off on him in their fight, thus setting the Guinness World Record for punches thrown in a fight (1,600+). Margarito has his best moments if you stay stationary. He hurt Pacquiao against the ropes in the sixth and eighth rounds against the ropes, he teed off on Clottey against the ropes, whenever he hurt Cotto in the first fight it was against the ropes...etc, etc...
I agree. Those styles take a lot out of you. They're more crowd-pleasing, but it takes a toll sooner or later. It's perhaps similar to Mayorga/Gatti. However, Ríos is MUCH more straightforward than those two. He's only got one gear and it's blazing.
:boxing: Thanks, reed! :D
I agree on everything but I think Rios has more than 1 year. He's still young and he will see some wars and they will be great. I can tell you right now anyone at 140lbs does not want to see Rios because win or lose, you are in for an ass whoppin...hahaha
Where did I make excuses again? I see you are the type of person that likes to argue so you can hear yourself speak.
I gave Cotto all the props in the world but not once did I see Marg hurt in this fight. Unless I was watching something else you were. He was hit hard, stumbled from the physical blow but he was never hurt in the sense of being rocked like someone who was on the verge of being KO'd.
Cotto isn't the same fighter as before and I have stated that many times. I think he did a GREAT job in clinching and moving in angles. I haven't taken anything from Cotto but extremists like you fall in the category or "cotto ran" or "Marg was on the verge of being knocked out"
Neither was true. Cotto boxed his ears off and Marg continued to come forward and still showed he can take a great shot.
Precisely. A lot of posters tend to see things black and white after a fight unfortunately. It was not "Cotto ran" nor was it "Margarito was going to get KO'd". Terrific post.
The reality is Marg's eye just can't hold up anymore and Cotto fought a completely different fight on Saturday. He moved a lot more and he never really got into trouble or stuck on the ropes for a long time until maybe the fourth round or so. He was tired (no doubt) because of the pressure but Cotto DID NOT allow Margarito to work by constantly moving. I still think Margarito can shred you to pieces when you're against the ropes, which is why "shell defense" Clottey lost the later rounds against Margarito by letting him tee off on him in their fight, thus setting the Guinness World Record for punches thrown in a fight (1,600+). Margarito has his best moments if you stay stationary. He hurt Pacquiao against the ropes in the sixth and eighth rounds against the ropes, he teed off on Clottey against the ropes, whenever he hurt Cotto in the first fight it was against the ropes...etc, etc...
Another thing, Margarito and the style of fighter he is doesn't last long in boxing. We have seen that in the past with guys like Pepino Cuevas who had a great career but his best years were on about a 7-8 years span and that was it.
Marg is the same way and I hate to say it but Rios will be the same. It's just exciting to see them and the type of fights they give the boxing public.
There's a reason Marg was the most feared man in boxing for a while but those days are long gone.
I agree. Those styles take a lot out of you. They're more crowd-pleasing, but it takes a toll sooner or later. It's perhaps similar to Mayorga/Gatti. However, Ríos is MUCH more straightforward than those two. He's only got one gear and it's blazing.
Stop trolling NSB, and name calling.
Talk boxing or gtfo.
Last warning.
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Good Post as Always Cuahtemoc Speaking the Truth and being the Real Boxing fan that you are. I as well want to congratulate the Cotto Fans, But most of all Cotto really shocked me how he never went all balls out on Margarito afterwards Never Coming off as a Jerk after the fight. Cotto has always been Classy and is still a Warrior in my Eyes. Good win for Boxing and to the Puerto Rican Brothers Good win for your Boy and you Hardcore Real Boxing fans
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Stop trolling NSB, and name calling.
Talk boxing or gtfo.
Last warning.
thank you lord reedickyaluss lol...
we dont need this troll in here please do us all a favor.....
yeah man, cuahtemoc is a fukkin clown, lol, you said it, lol, cuahtemoc is a clown, hes always gonna make a stupid thread cause hes a retarded clown, lol, just like you are, take care, lol, nyahahahaha
Stop trolling NSB, and name calling.
Talk boxing or gtfo.
Last warning.
Another thing, Margarito and the style of fighter he is doesn't last long in boxing. We have seen that in the past with guys like Pepino Cuevas who had a great career but his best years were on about a 7-8 years span and that was it.
Marg is the same way and I hate to say it but Rios will be the same. It's just exciting to see them and the type of fights they give the boxing public.
There's a reason Marg was the most feared man in boxing for a while but those days are long gone.
true true... yea definetely rios i think isin his prime right now and when he starts facing elite competition like the jmm of the world, it'll start taking a grave effect on him (not saying he doesn't face good opposition people)
Margarito needs to retire because of the eye and work hard on Tornado promotions...
yeah man, cuahtemoc is a fukkin clown, lol, you said it, lol, cuahtemoc is a clown, hes always gonna make a stupid thread cause hes a retarded clown, lol, just like you are, take care, lol, nyahahahaha
Coming from the person who puts THAT at the end of your posts.....
What are you.....12? Grown folks are talking here, go to the threads where you guys call each other wet.backs and island monkeys, there's plenty of those and leave the grown folks who know about boxing to talk like real men.
can't say it better than this....
its boxing retards, thats why its called the sweet science. there are many strategies used to win fights and cotto showed one of those...
Maragrito's style has helped him win many fights....
All that running bull**** people talk here is these little margo cock riders that wouldn't even a handle a shot from their atg legend margarito....
he was in great shape but if the fight were to go 12 rounds he would've lost all 12 rounds... cotto's improved strategy was key saturday night....
Another thing, Margarito and the style of fighter he is doesn't last long in boxing. We have seen that in the past with guys like Pepino Cuevas who had a great career but his best years were on about a 7-8 years span and that was it.
Marg is the same way and I hate to say it but Rios will be the same. It's just exciting to see them and the type of fights they give the boxing public.
There's a reason Marg was the most feared man in boxing for a while but those days are long gone.
theres always gotta be that one clown.... :nonono:
yeah man, cuahtemoc is a fukkin clown, lol, you said it, lol, cuahtemoc is a clown, hes always gonna make a stupid thread cause hes a retarded clown, lol, just like you are, take care, lol, nyahahahaha
Where did I make excuses again? I see you are the type of person that likes to argue so you can hear yourself speak.
I gave Cotto all the props in the world but not once did I see Marg hurt in this fight. Unless I was watching something else you were. He was hit hard, stumbled from the physical blow but he was never hurt in the sense of being rocked like someone who was on the verge of being KO'd.
Cotto isn't the same fighter as before and I have stated that many times. I think he did a GREAT job in clinching and moving in angles. I haven't taken anything from Cotto but extremists like you fall in the category or "cotto ran" or "Marg was on the verge of being knocked out"
Neither was true. Cotto boxed his ears off and Marg continued to come forward and still showed he can take a great shot.
can't say it better than this....
its boxing retards, thats why its called the sweet science. there are many strategies used to win fights and cotto showed one of those...
Maragrito's style has helped him win many fights....
All that running bull**** people talk here is these little margo cock riders that wouldn't even a handle a shot from their atg legend margarito....
he was in great shape but if the fight were to go 12 rounds he would've lost all 12 rounds... cotto's improved strategy was key saturday night....
he makes excuses in the post below..da fukk?
Marg has always been slow with minimal movement. Cotto's punches were clearly hurting him at times, so I don't know what you mean by stating Cotto never hurt Marg. Marg was clearly stunned at times, and even buckled by Cotto's massive shots. Marg can only get off if you stand still and trade with him, or move back in a straight line. If you give him angles, movement, and clinch before he takes a step forward you can catch him coming in; rinse and repeat. Pwill gave us the blueprint, Shane Mosley executed it to perfection, and Cotto followed. Cotto changed his errors, and executed his game plan, as it has been effectively shown to work in the past by other fighters. Many people doubted whether Cotto can change his tactical errors, and he did. Give him props. That wasn't the same Cotto from 2008 either, nevertheless the outcome shouldn't be diminished. He won and showed the world that he is the better man.
hurrr:bottle:
Where did I make excuses again? I see you are the type of person that likes to argue so you can hear yourself speak.
I gave Cotto all the props in the world but not once did I see Marg hurt in this fight. Unless I was watching something else you were. He was hit hard, stumbled from the physical blow but he was never hurt in the sense of being rocked like someone who was on the verge of being KO'd.
Cotto isn't the same fighter as before and I have stated that many times. I think he did a GREAT job in clinching and moving in angles. I haven't taken anything from Cotto but extremists like you fall in the category or "cotto ran" or "Marg was on the verge of being knocked out"
Neither was true. Cotto boxed his ears off and Marg continued to come forward and still showed he can take a great shot.
Nah, I don't think Margarito is done.
I honestly believe he still has more to offer.
I actually want to see him fight Martinez a year from now (some time in 2013).
A fight between Sergio Martinez and Antonio Margarito would be fun same as this one. Tony just need to win some good fights and he be all right again.
Seriously, it ain't bad for Margarito 1-1 with Cotto, 0-1 with Mosley, 1-0 with Clottey, and 0-1 with Pacquiao.
0-2 since losing to Pacquiao.
Also, if you look at it. He didn't get any special treatment like an easy fight. Margarito fought arguably the #1 Junior Middleweight in the whole world without an easy fight in between unlike when he fought the #1 P4P fighter of the world which he fought an easy fight in between.
I couldn't cheer loudly enough for Margarito that is my only regret.
Wow, could you give some examples? I'd love to hear what he was saying.
I heard Marg say:
"stop running you fa6"
(when Cotto would land a big shot)
"nothing, nothing you hit like a little girl"
"You don't have anything for me, you can't hurt me"
He is a crazy fuker.....I was laughing at the tv screen because he just doesn't give a fuk. People think it's a persona that he carries but I'm convinced it's who he is. His wife is also a G, she doesn't even care that her husband is getting beat up....lol
Do you have the precise moments where that happened?
I know for a fact that in the fifth round when Cotto was moving to the left side of the ring after getting pinned on the right Margarito was chasing him. Cotto had skittered away after landing a left hook and if you turn up the volume you can hear Margarito taunting Cotto, "¡Pegas como niña!" (You hit like a girl!)
Also, in the closing seconds of round 9 when Cotto was again moving to the right side of the ring, Margarito shouted, "¿Te dueleeee?" (Does it hurt?!)
And when Margarito was walking back to the corner after the final round (round 9) he was motioning his glove across his neck as if to say that Cotto was almost done and he shouted to the corner, "¡Esta corriendo el puto!" (He's running like a *****!)
It's not audible over the crowd but that's what I get from reading his lips.
Cua, if you have the timemarks for those Margarito's taunts, I'd love to hear them. Margarito's a bad-ass for taunting. Made the fight much more entertaining...he was rocking Mayorga-isms throughout the fight.
Now they are talking Cotto vs Mayweather. I pray that doesn't happen, there's no reason to see that.
I would love to see Cotto vs Chavez jr though...
I doubt it happens.
Arum.
I don't mean now. Go through my history. I gave an honest opinion on a 3rd fight.
He needs to fight his defeats in the likes of Paul williams and Shane Mosley.Those guys don't hand out "boxing clinics" so there won't be further excuse :lol1:
Cotto put on a great performance and I don't want to say I told you so but I knew going to the body wasn't in the game plan for Cotto. He just needed to give angles and clinch.
Excellent job by him and Pedro Diaz in their preparation. I loved the way he moved, clinched on the inside and for the most part kept his back off the ropes.
I do think Marg was getting stronger as the fight wore on but it wasn't the same as the first fight because Marg couldn't connect the way he did the first time. He was missing a lot and his body shots weren't there for this fight. Cotto moved non stop and kep Marg from really touching him much.
Cotto was on his way to a UD easily, even though I think the last rounds would have been the toughest for him but he was looking much fresher because he wasn't getting hit as much as in the first fight.
Margarito is DONE. He looked like he was throwing punches underwater. He was never fast but he just looks like a worn fighter. No movement of the head like before, he wasn't catching any of Cotto's jab's or right hands. He was just coming forward with a slow jab and was being countered easily with a right hand.
I don't know whether Marg cheated in his fight with Cotto and I don't think this fight can tell you much of that because Marg really didn't connect like he did in the first fight but perception is everything. The perception is he did, he failed to redeem himself and Marg's career sad for me to say, is tainted and done.
It was a shame the fight ended on the eye swelling but I posted on Friday saying I thought that was one of my worries.
To all of you I owe e-points, let me know how much I owe. Tinta I think I owe you 1 million or is it 10 million? Don't know let me know.
If only all Margarito fans were like you. Props.
enjoy the sh1t talking. Lol
us margarito fans did it to you with marg/pac so it's only fair. 1-1 baby!! Bring on the rubber match!! Lol
lmfaooooo!!! Stop it.same result.that scum bag doesn't deserve to make a living off cottos name.