Realistically, Canelo needs one more fight to set-up a Cotto Super Fight.
Perhaps on the supposed May 5th Mayweather undercard.
A Canelo vs Cotto PPV on Sep 16 (Mexican Independence Day) weekend would be bomb in Vegas and do HUGE PPV numbers.
Canelo already beat Cotto's older bro, so that can fit nicely into the promotional hype
Who would be the best step-up opponent towards the Cotto Super Fight?
Mosley?
Margarito?
Angulo?
Thoughts?
Canelo just beat stopped Cintron
Cotto just got saved from Margarito
the timing is perfect
Hmmm maybe, just jump straight to it on Cinco de Mayo or the eve of the Puerto Rican Day parade. But I'd still like to see Canelo wow us against a higher level of opposition first.
Canelo is not ready for Mayweather. If he can beat a guy like Cotto, then that fight should be explored, and still only because his enormous popularity makes it lucrative.
how can you possibly think that Alvarez's defense is as good as Margaritos? I dont usualyl bother with punchstat numbers, but Cintron only landed 14% of his punches against Alvarez. Cintron might not be prime, but damn. Alvarez clearly has much better defense than Margarito ever did.
If I were Alvarez or his management, I would fight Bundrage, and pick up another belt. Shouldnt be too tough a fight, since Bundrage is basically just holding the strap hostage anyway and is pretty old. It would be a good stay busy fight, and plus be fairly legitimate since hes picking up an alphabet belt. and hey, might be a good learning experience, since Bundrage has been around for a while and has a different sort of style.
Then there would be almost all the belts on the line if Cotto-Alvarez happens.
Bundrage would be a good "stepping stone" type opponent and bring added benefit because of the belt he holds. And that type of matchup is a very realistic supporting bout to a major PPV main event.
Canelo vs Bundrage on the undercard of Mayweather vs whoever on May 5th would be ideal. That may be the fight to set up a Cotto showdown. Too bad Bob Arum stands in the way.
how can you possibly think that Alvarez's defense is as good as Margaritos? I dont usualyl bother with punchstat numbers, but Cintron only landed 14% of his punches against Alvarez. Cintron might not be prime, but damn. Alvarez clearly has much better defense than Margarito ever did.
If I were Alvarez or his management, I would fight Bundrage, and pick up another belt. Shouldnt be too tough a fight, since Bundrage is basically just holding the strap hostage anyway and is pretty old. It would be a good stay busy fight, and plus be fairly legitimate since hes picking up an alphabet belt. and hey, might be a good learning experience, since Bundrage has been around for a while and has a different sort of style.
Then there would be almost all the belts on the line if Cotto-Alvarez happens.
Canelo doesn't have anywhere near the chin of Margarito, but about the same level of defense.
He also doesn't apply as much pressure as Margarito.
Cotto lands a clean shot to the chin and Canelo is hurt or down.
LOL it took Cotto 9 rounds to stop a 1 legged Yuri foreman. Cotto is borderline featherfisted at this point
Arum will NEVER let Cotto fight Canelo. Cotto has people fooled in to thinking he isn't washed. Canelo knocking Cotto out would make him an instant superstar in the US. Arum will NEVER LET THAT HAPPEN
That is right, besides I think Cotto sent his brother first to taste Canelo´s power. He got stopped and as a result Cotto wont fight him. Remember Bobby Pacquiao fighting Humberto Soto, Bobby got ktfo and as a result Pac avoided Soto forever... no urgency to avenge his brother whatsoever lol.
The same can be said for when Canelo starts landing shots. Cotto appeared bothered by the few slow, "plasterless" punches Margarito landed last night. Canelo is a lot faster, and probably hits harder at this point.
Canelo doesn't have anywhere near the chin of Margarito, but about the same level of defense.
He also doesn't apply as much pressure as Margarito.
Cotto lands a clean shot to the chin and Canelo is hurt or down.
Arum will NEVER let Cotto fight Canelo. Cotto has people fooled in to thinking he isn't washed. Canelo knocking Cotto out would make him an instant superstar in the US. Arum will NEVER LET THAT HAPPEN
I think that if you can deal with Miguel Vázquez (very good boxer and actual ibf champion) you can deal with anybody, Canelo already wants Floyd Mayweather for May and they are trying to get the fight done, at least that is what canelo said the other day.
I´m pretty sure that he is going to shock a lot of nansayers once he faces the toughest competition because they have just seen a Canelo @40% throttle... and think that is all Canelo is capable of.
And Chávez Jr. is no rival to Canelo despite the size advantage, go and see their fights against luciano Cuello.
Cotto would school that kid bad. Like one poster said he hasn't really had to dig deep so we won't know how he will handle when Cotto starts landing his shots.
The same can be said for when Canelo starts landing shots. Cotto appeared bothered by the few slow, "plasterless" punches Margarito landed last night. Canelo is a lot faster, and probably hits harder at this point.
Ortiz vs Cotto would be awesome, but it may have to happen at a, get ready for it.... Catchweight, or maybe Ortiz would be willing to move up to challenge for Cotto's Jr. Middleweight strap.
Probably.
There both about the same size.
Hell, Ortiz might be a little bigger.
Anything between 147 to 154 shouldn't affect the fight.
Cotto would school that kid bad. Like one poster said he hasn't really had to dig deep so we won't know how he will handle when Cotto starts landing his shots.
Ortiz weighed 165 vs Floyd and Cotto weighed 161 vs Margo.
The styles would make for an awesome fight
Canelo-Chavez needs to happen before Chavez turns into a SMW. Fat bastard.
Ortiz vs Cotto would be awesome, but it may have to happen at a, get ready for it.... Catchweight, or maybe Ortiz would be willing to move up to challenge for Cotto's Jr. Middleweight strap.
That's what makes it intriguing. Youth, speed and strength vs skill and experience. The Mex vs PR spin makes it a natural fight for September.
But I do like the idea of Cotto vs the Berto-Ortiz winner.
I think Chavez is too big for both Canelo and Cotto at this point. The kid is huge; big for a Middleweight.
Ortiz weighed 165 vs Floyd and Cotto weighed 161 vs Margo.
The styles would make for an awesome fight
Canelo-Chavez needs to happen before Chavez turns into a SMW. Fat bastard.
That's what makes it intriguing. Youth, speed and strength vs skill and experience. The Mex vs PR spin makes it a natural fight for September.
But I do like the idea of Cotto vs the Berto-Ortiz winner.
I think Chavez is too big for both Canelo and Cotto at this point. The kid is huge; big for a Middleweight.
Cotto isnt going down anymore
And i also think he is too big. I met him at MSG and he is BIG. im 6'3 and he wasnt that much shorter then me. He also has a huge head lol
Canelo is too strong and big for Cotto IMO.
His speed is decent as well.
I think Cotto should move back to 147 fight the Berto-Ortiz winner.
Canelo should fight Chavez or a top JMW.
I thought that until the fight yesterday
Cotto showed great movement and Canelo has as much head movement as Marg.
He has never faced someone who would give him trouble and Cotto will def trouble the shiit outta him
It's also one of those veteran-youngster fight were Canelo doesnt know the tricks yet
I actually really wanna see this fight now
Canelo is too strong and big for Cotto IMO.
His speed is decent as well.
I think Cotto should move back to 147 fight the Berto-Ortiz winner.
Canelo should fight Chavez or a top JMW.
That's what makes it intriguing. Youth, speed and strength vs skill and experience. The Mex vs PR spin makes it a natural fight for September.
But I do like the idea of Cotto vs the Berto-Ortiz winner.
I think Chavez is too big for both Canelo and Cotto at this point. The kid is huge; big for a Middleweight.
He doesn't need to fight another bum to get KO'd by Cotto.
The overrated kid will struggle against Cotto no matter what bum they put in front of him next.
That's why I'm saying one more fight. A fight that will validate the hype or expose the kid. I'm not sold on him yet, and many other fans feel the same way. But if they put the right guy in front of him, and he performs according to the hype, then I think a Cotto unification fight in September would be about right, from a competitive and promotional standpoint. Cotto's beast, but he's seen better days.
That being said, maybe a dominant performance against Mosley?
Or what if he outdoes Cotto's performance against Margarito or Mayorga?
An Angulo fight could turn ugly and taxing.
Too much risk in fighting Kirkland right now. That dude's an animal.