I say Amir Khan makes the most sense right now financially. he's already a star to some degree and the buildup would be tremendous. probably the next best fight that will make the most money for him.
he should fight that little fella martinez. or maybe khan. but the date implies a fight with some mexican boxer. seriously morales is not a good fight, and marquez, mayorga and guerrero are also lol.
1. It was about funding. Mayweather wanted a 10 million dollar package deal to fight Cotto, Marg, and a few other people who were hot at that time. Arum could only guarantee 7 mil.
2. Hindsight 20/20 is something else isn't it. It's easy to wait until 5 years after the fact and call a certain fighter a bum. Fact is, at the time, Baldomir had a chin of granite and just beat Judah and KO'd Gatti. This may sound like no huge accomplishment, but AT THE TIME, it was. See for yourself:
Now, here we are at the end of 2011 after Marg beat Cotto, and people completely forget about what was going on at the time.
What you failed to leave out he also wanted a guarantee at Ricky Hatton who has never been promoted by Arum, how could he pull that off if he isnt the promoter?
I think Floyd just made it difficult because at that time Margarito had welters on the run...
I have accepted that Floyd is not fighting Martinez. And Pacquiao will fight Martinez even less. And I don't buy that it's size. I think it's more the skill he has for his size. If he was big, but was a punching bag who didn't move so much like he does, and didn't have the handspeed and power he has, they woulda fought him. Actually subtract the handspeed and movement and they would fight him. Size and power does not win fights, without skill, we've seen that too many times, unless you're in HW.
Martinez decapitates Pacquiao due to size, plus the skill like you said. But Floyd VS Martinez at 154 is a 50/50 fight only because Martinez is naturally bigger, actually I think Floyd should be favored. Martinez fights with his hands down and I could see Floyd tagging him up, and plus Martinez showed he's very vulnerable against a defensive fighter in his last fight. He wouldn't know what do against Floyd's defense.
The ball is of course in Floyd's court to make it happen.
JMM myth reminds me of Winky myth....How they were ducked by this guy, that guy, and the other guy...Yet it was them who were turning down career high paydays. SMH.
The Marquez one isn't as bad as the Winky one.
But the cake is almost taken for ducking myths in the modern era when it's said about Joshua Clottey.
He didn't turn down payday's like Winky Wright but in the past 2 years a myth has risen from somewhere that Clottey has been notoriously ducked.
I mean, where the f*ck does this sh*t come from?
Floyd wanted to fight Margarito, but Arum didn't have the funding.
Arum, The Floyd Lover, admits this himself.
Everyone else can interpret Arum's words however they like. Or interpret the events that transpired after however they like. But it's kind of hard to say Floyd ducked Marg when Arum says he didn't. I'm not taking Arum's word as gospel, just saying.
He made the same money fighting Baldimor so the funding wasnt the issue, the issue was Baldimor cant punch had nearly a dozen losses and couldnt box for ****.
The lineal title in that sense the one in which Carlos Baldomir held well look at it this way back then who was the better fighter? Baldomir or Margarito? Obviously it was margarito, but from a technical stand point the lineal title makes Floyds fight with Carlos legit even though Carlos was not truly the best fighter out there to be fought
I have accepted that Floyd is not fighting Martinez. And Pacquiao will fight Martinez even less. And I don't buy that it's size. I think it's more the skill he has for his size. If he was big, but was a punching bag who didn't move so much like he does, and didn't have the handspeed and power he has, they woulda fought him. Actually subtract the handspeed and movement and they would fight him. Size and power does not win fights, without skill, we've seen that too many times, unless you're in HW.
Yes it's the skill that goes with the size that's the problem...But, it's also the size...
I don't think Floyd would have a problem fighting Martinez if Martinez was Floyd size. Martinez could keep all his skills, speed, movement...And, take away his size...Floyd fight him....
Take away Martinez size and let him keep all his attributes. And, Pac fighting him becomes way more likely than what it is now.
It's the combination of size and skill. It's what IMO makes it hard for either of them to challenge him. And, I don't blame them for not fighting them...Floyd might do it though in the future. But, not now.
JMM myth reminds me of Winky myth....How they were ducked by this guy, that guy, and the other guy...Yet it was them who were turning down career high paydays. SMH.
I have accepted that Floyd is not fighting Martinez. And Pacquiao will fight Martinez even less. And I don't buy that it's size. I think it's more the skill he has for his size. If he was big, but was a punching bag who didn't move so much like he does, and didn't have the handspeed and power he has, they woulda fought him. Actually subtract the handspeed and movement and they would fight him. Size and power does not win fights, without skill, we've seen that too many times, unless you're in HW.
I seriously doubt Floyd fights in February....I don't know why anyone believes that he will...He has never been one of the most active fighters. And, now with his age and even with all the money he makes. It unrealistic for him to fight in February and then again in May.
If he does fight next year. It will be in May. And, depending on how Khan and Canelo look like in their next fight. Will decide if he fights or not. If both look like meh.....You might see him take another vacation. If one or the other look damn good in an impressive win then that's his next opponent in May.
I agree. Feb seem unrealistic for Floyd's age. May 5 is good though, I think he's spoiling his fans by saying Feb. May is good enough for me. That would be only 8 months after his last fight. And if a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight is going to happen, then Feb seems even more unrealistic, since Pacquiao just fought this month.
I say Amir Khan makes the most sense right now financially. he's already a star to some degree and the buildup would be tremendous. probably the next best fight that will make the most money for him.
on Cinco De mayo I would say after Margarito beats Cotto again fight Tony
That looks likely, Macklin-Martinez.
Although, I think Martinez would put that aside if Mayweather approached them.
I don't really care too much to see Macklin -Martinez anyway.
I don't care too much for it either. And, of course Martinez will put that aside. But, I'm not confident that Floyd will push for that fight just yet.
manny didnt fight cotto right away because he had bigger fish to fry !!! osacr & hatton who he just so happened to rite both of them!!!!! as soon as he was finished with them he wasted no time and went straight for cotto!!!!! if mosley wasnt preoccupied with berto he wouldve taken him next !!!!!!! and i disagree mwith you on marquez vs manny3 it was a great fight !!!! i did not come away from the fight feeling i was robbed !!!!! and as far as moralles ducking marquez for yrs , i wrote a highly regarded peice on that last yr and it was about 7 paragraphs long breaking down all the specifics and everyone that read it even the people that hate my guts admitted i was right !!!! i will look for the post and post it in here trust me you will see the light !!!!!
LOL @ Hatton being a "bigger fish to fry" Hatton...
And, anyways by the time Pac fought Oscar, Cotto had already been sonned by Marg. After that he wasn't the same that fought Mosley. And, again why even wait to have Mosley preoccupied with Berto? Why not fight the #1 guy in the division first? Again, the guy who sonned Cotto(Pac opponent) daddy?
It wasn't a great fight, but that's beyond the point. The fight should have happened years ago in a weight-class that not only suited Pac but JMM as well...However, at the time Pac said, it was "finished business" funny how they thought of it being a walk park made that business unfinished from Pac side.
And, yes go show me that epic post of Morales ducking JMM...And, then I show you how JMM turned down a career highpay to fight Morales as a main even PPV in 2005 by out pricing himself out....Go....
I don't see it going down...Not right now anyways. Plus I think Martinez is going to fight Macklin in March.
I can see Floyd fighting Martinez maybe at the end of next year if anything.
That looks likely, Macklin-Martinez.
Although, I think Martinez would put that aside if Mayweather approached them.
I don't really care too much to see Macklin -Martinez anyway.
You could be right, just hopeful thinking on my part. I just really think (hopeful thinking again) that Floyd wants Pacquiao on May and that he's trying to squeeze in another fight before that, since the Ortiz fight didn't last long.
Why do you not include Martinez in the equation? Don't see that fight going down?
I don't see it going down...Not right now anyways. Plus I think Martinez is going to fight Macklin in March.
I can see Floyd fighting Martinez maybe at the end of next year if anything.
I seriously doubt Floyd fights in February....I don't know why anyone believes that he will...He has never been one of the most active fighters. And, now with his age and even with all the money he makes. It unrealistic for him to fight in February and then again in May.
If he does fight next year. It will be in May. And, depending on how Khan and Canelo look like in their next fight. Will decide if he fights or not. If both look like meh.....You might see him take another vacation. If one or the other look damn good in an impressive win then that's his next opponent in May.
You could be right, just hopeful thinking on my part. I just really think (hopeful thinking again) that Floyd wants Pacquiao on May and that he's trying to squeeze in another fight before that, since the Ortiz fight didn't last long.
Why do you not include Martinez in the equation? Don't see that fight going down?
I expect Floyd to always face the best, regardless of what stupid trolls say Floyd always fights formidable opponents just that everybody craps on them after Floyd beats them. So the best, and realistic fights to be made, are against Martinez and Khan. I'm not too sure that Khan would fight Floyd with only 2 months to prepare after his fight against Peterson, but I don't think he would turn it down if Golden Boy would propose it. Martinez takes this fight in a heartbeat.
A Canelo fight is also intriguing, but that needs more time to build up.
Fights against Bradley, Cotto/Margarito winner, *insert Top Rank opponent*, are almost unrealistic because we know that scum bag Arum will now allow his stable to get eaten up by Floyd.
I seriously doubt Floyd fights in February....I don't know why anyone believes that he will...He has never been one of the most active fighters. And, now with his age and even with all the money he makes. It unrealistic for him to fight in February and then again in May.
If he does fight next year. It will be in May. And, depending on how Khan and Canelo look like in their next fight. Will decide if he fights or not. If both look like meh.....You might see him take another vacation. If one or the other look damn good in an impressive win then that's his next opponent in May.
I expect Floyd to always face the best, regardless of what stupid trolls say Floyd always fights formidable opponents just that everybody craps on them after Floyd beats them. So the best, and realistic fights to be made, are against Martinez and Khan. I'm not too sure that Khan would fight Floyd with only 2 months to prepare after his fight against Peterson, but I don't think he would turn it down if Golden Boy would propose it. Martinez takes this fight in a heartbeat.
A Canelo fight is also intriguing, but that needs more time to build up.
Fights against Bradley, Cotto/Margarito winner, *insert Top Rank opponent*, are almost unrealistic because we know that scum bag Arum will now allow his stable to get eaten up by Floyd.