Marquez + Hernandez = FM Sr and Rogers Theory on PED's

Exactly.. Now since Pac didnt KO Marquez Pacs a hypejob... Imagine how big the accusations would be if Pac stopped Marquez.. People calling Manny a hypejob are a little ridiculous and it's not really fair after a fight with someone as good as JMM. Pac's output drops dramitically when he fights JMM, it's always been like that. Not only does the style force you to drop your output, but what Beristein said is partially correct....Manny not being so unpredictible may have hurt him this time around because it's easier for JMM to dissect and anticipate what he is going to do. JMM has never been KO'ed and neither has Mosley, it's really not that big of a deal.

Nope my thread is stating. Marquez + Balco Hernandez + Being able to compete at his age and take Pacs punches this time around = Suspicious red flag PED may have been used during training.. Pacman + No Balco associate or positive PED = Not as suspicious as Marquez oh, you're right.. Problem is JMM said Test me.. After that statement, Arum claimed steroids and peds were a thing of the past. There was no need for testing etc etc.. Red Flag raised, red flag lowered. Maybe Team Pac should have called his bluff and see if he was really willing to be tested. Unless, he'd be asked to do the same. red flags, everywhere.

JMM was robbed throughout her whole career.. JMM was ducked by the best at their prime, MAB and Morales.. jmm is not skilled enough to be barrera's sparring partner. true story.

jmm is in her prime. never lost. never will. JMM was robbed throughout her whole career.. JMM was ducked by the best at their prime, MAB and Morales..

I didn't want to say it, but you're beginning to look more and more like a pacamaniac by the second. You're showing all the vital signs: 1. Accusing other fighters of taking PED's to take light off Pac. 2. Subject changing. 3. Copy and Paste type answers. 4. No limits for excuses to protect one's fighter. I'm afraid I might have to diagnose you with pactarditis. There's been an influx of cases reported on boxingscene after November 12th. I think you might be infected. Seek help, before it's too late. No logic in your response to my thread.. Another idiot who uses the term Pactard, Floydioits, Pacmaniac, Gayweather.. etc... Marquez + Hernandez = Red Flag PEDs accusation.. Use logic but you prob cant since your havent passed grade school.

Everyone who losses 1 fight is past their prime according to 90% of these posters here on BS.. jmm is in her prime. never lost. never will.

jmm is undefeated. :headbang: he got robbed 6 times and he was cheated at the scales once. Everyone who losses 1 fight is past their prime according to 90% of these posters here on BS..

So basically, your thread is pretty much crying about a guy who isn't saying he'll be fatigue, or needs 2 weeks or maybe 30 days notice for a blood test. You want us to blasts JMM for saying he's willing to take the tests? Why not put Team Pac on blast for not following up on his statements and going forward with a test? If they dismissed it like it was nothing, maybe you should as well Nope my thread is stating. Marquez + Balco Hernandez + Being able to compete at his age and take Pacs punches this time around = Suspicious red flag PED may have been used during training.. Pacman + No Balco associate or positive PED = Not as suspicious as Marquez

Should of rub that ointment on the judges eyes so they would be blinded by the actual fight and judge the fight according the the loud obnoxious Marquez fans who cant take the loss.. jmm is undefeated. :headbang: he got robbed 6 times and he was cheated at the scales once.

this is what i dont get at all !!!!! marquez was dropped 5x in his previous 2 fights with manny !!!! mayweather put him on his ass and mayweather is the hardest of hitters !!!!!diaz who is a well renowned bum also hurt him , kastidis put him on his ass but somehow piss drinker didnt flinch when manny hit him !!!!!! and this is after cast iron jaw , granite jawed mosley was put on his ass for only the 2nd time is his whole 20+ yr career !!!!!! in fact mosley said manny hit harder than vernon forrest !!!!!!!! the double standard is so obvious it is disgusting !!!!!! marquez looked ripped and was in the best shape of his career at 38 taking shots that broke margaritas face into tiny little pieces , made cotto look like he was hit with a mac truck , and had shane cowering in fear !!!!!! you cant tell me balcos right hand man didnt have something to do with that Exactly.. Now since Pac didnt KO Marquez Pacs a hypejob... Imagine how big the accusations would be if Pac stopped Marquez..

JMM doesn't take PEDS. he rubs an ointment on his right hand that magnetically attracts pacquiao's face. Should of rub that ointment on the judges eyes so they would be blinded by the actual fight and judge the fight according the the loud obnoxious Marquez fans who cant take the loss..

JMM doesn't take PEDS. he rubs an ointment on his right hand that magnetically attracts pacquiao's face.

It does surprise the fact that this issue hasnt been addressed but here you still have naive people accusing Pac of juicing... If Pac did blow out Marquez then the Juicing issue would again be raised against Pac.. No ones addressed the fact that Marquez associated himself with Balco Hernandez and the fact that Marquez at his age was able to stand his ground against Pac and take Pacs punches.. Well just to be fair Pacquiao didn't look like he was hitting too hard. But the only speculation on Marquez is he has a BALCO guy and he gained a little weight. Really that's it. As for Pacquiao, you got Roach, Ariza always seems suspect, the muscle gains while staying very lean, the burst of speed after David Diaz, and the power. Not to mention he didn't want any part of a random blood test. The suspicions lean toward Pacquiao, not Marquez.

What I hate is when PAC couldn't KO jmm, the same ppl who accuses him of peds are saying: He's a hype job He hasn't improved He didn't use peds this time And yet no one, in there right mind, that the same jmm who got put down his ass his last fight, can suddenly go toe to toe with PAC. And no one questions that?? It just makes me automatically ignore a lot of posters here.

Did they test him? NO.. the fact that he said test me doesnt make him innocent unless they actually test him.. He still has a red flag of suspicion considering the amount of muscle he put on. So basically, your thread is pretty much crying about a guy who isn't saying he'll be fatigue, or needs 2 weeks or maybe 30 days notice for a blood test. You want us to blasts JMM for saying he's willing to take the tests? Why not put Team Pac on blast for not following up on his statements and going forward with a test? If they dismissed it like it was nothing, maybe you should as well

As soon as Hernandez was revealed and JMM started getting questioned he said "test me as long as you also take the test." They dropped the issue. They did the exact same thing asking Mosley to test.. Shane agreed as long as Pac took the test and then it was never spoken of after that.

So the fact that Marquez says test me mean his automatically clean? This is your logic.. and the Fact that Pac agreed to FM demands still doesnt prove Pac to be clean. JMM should be affiliated with PED use.. No, if you use logic you'd understand that it took JMM less than a week to openly say to test him at anytime. Where in Pac, who I'm not even talking about, agreed after two years of switching cut-offs, having excuses and not saying "**** it, test me." There's a huge difference with a 7-day span and a 730 day span when it comes to agreeing to a test.

So the fact that Marquez says test me mean his automatically clean? This is your logic.. and the Fact that Pac agreed to FM demands still doesnt prove Pac to be clean. JMM should be affiliated with PED use.. FAIL JMM said test me and what did Pac Team say NOTHING THEY DIDNT WANT PAC TO BE TESTED ALONG WITH JMM -----------> WHY?

No one? Did you not see 24/7 at all? Did you not read, on here of all places, Victor Conte's comments about JMM or Ariza's take on JMM putting on the amount of muscle he did?.. It was addressed well enough to the point where JMM looked at the camera and simply said, "Test me." No excuses, stuttering, letting others speak for himself or anything of that nature. He said test me. After that, his opponent's team spoke nothing more of it. Did they test him? NO.. the fact that he said test me doesnt make him innocent unless they actually test him.. He still has a red flag of suspicion considering the amount of muscle he put on.

It does surprise the fact that this issue hasnt been addressed but here you still have naive people accusing Pac of juicing... If Pac did blow out Marquez then the Juicing issue would again be raised against Pac.. No ones addressed the fact that Marquez associated himself with Balco Hernandez and the fact that Marquez at his age was able to stand his ground against Pac and take Pacs punches.. No one? Did you not see 24/7 at all? Did you not read, on here of all places, Victor Conte's comments about JMM or Ariza's take on JMM putting on the amount of muscle he did?.. It was addressed well enough to the point where JMM looked at the camera and simply said, "Test me." No excuses, stuttering, letting others speak for himself or anything of that nature. He said test me. After that, his opponent's team spoke nothing more of it.