http://******.craveonline.com/blog/170309-williams-vs-molina-bundrage-eyed
sounds good to ,but its on showtime... i guess HBO doesnt give a SH-T about the punisher anymore.
Both guys would be good barometers as to where PWill is at this point in his career if he is unable to win convincingly then he's past it but if he does bring on Kirkland bcse that would be a must watch
Carlos Molina fought to a draw with Erislandy Lara, you don't think he's a good fighter? He also shut out Cintron who's a good B fighter.
And....?
BTW I know you don't think highly of Paul Williams, you never have. So I understand you downplaying his opponents.
Nothin to downplay. Just asking whats so great about Molina or Bundrage. You mark them down as tough opponents when not long ago you were saying Cotto and Margarito were bums. Doesnt make an awful lot of sense to me.
You also put down actual borderline bums like W.Mathysse and Verno Phillips as examples of Williams' "amazing" level of comp.
Carlos Molina fought to a draw with Erislandy Lara, you don't think he's a good fighter? He also shut out Cintron who's a good B fighter.
Absolutely Kev bruh. And many thought that he was robbed in his fight with Erislandy.
Interesting because kirklands team wants molina and bundrage wants kirkland.
As long as all as these four find a way to create to fights between the four Im good. All four make sense fighting each other. I love how kirkland wants to show Hes the toughest baddest motherfukker by smashing molina whose the quietly the most dangerous dark horse. But id love molina vs williams for williams to try to prove Hes still legit or molina to show Hes a beast top 154er. And K9 is tough pretty avoided too and has a title id love for kirkland to smash him and take his title!
I co-sign this entire statement. I heard Lara wants James too. Lara would be a tough outting for James, but I do think that he would steamroll K-9. And on any given night Molina could best any of them. 154 is starting to take shape gentlemen. :banana:
Molina and Bundrage are considered tough oppenents now?
BTW I know you don't think highly of Paul Williams, you never have. So I understand you downplaying his opponents.
Molina and Bundrage are considered tough oppenents now?
Carlos Molina fought to a draw with Erislandy Lara, you don't think he's a good fighter? He also shut out Cintron who's a good B fighter.
Williams gets KTFO against Martinez in 2 rounds..takes on Lara right after and gets his ass kicked. Now wants to get another tough opponent, one who fought to a Draw with the guy that just kicked his ass, another one is a top JMW. Say what you want about this guys flaws, but damn, he just does not take any shortcuts.
W. Matthysse, Margarito, Winky, Cintron, Martinez twice, Quintana twice, Lara, Phillips. Called the hell out of Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley, Pacquiao...Called out for a Margarito rematch right after Margarito brutalized Cotto and nobody wanted Margarito. This guy even said okay to a Hopkins fight, but negotiations never started I forgot why. On top of all of this he still wants a Martinez trilogy despite what Martinez did to him in their rematch.
How can you hate on the guy?
Molina and Bundrage are considered tough oppenents now?
Williams gets KTFO against Martinez in 2 rounds..takes on Lara right after and gets his ass kicked. Now wants to get another tough opponent, one who fought to a Draw with the guy that just kicked his ass, another one is a top JMW. Say what you want about this guys flaws, but damn, he just does not take any shortcuts.
W. Matthysse, Margarito, Winky, Cintron, Martinez twice, Quintana twice, Lara, Phillips. Called the hell out of Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley, Pacquiao...Called out for a Margarito rematch right after Margarito brutalized Cotto and nobody wanted Margarito. This guy even said okay to a Hopkins fight, but negotiations never started I forgot why. On top of all of this he still wants a Martinez trilogy despite what Martinez did to him in their rematch.
How can you hate on the guy?
real talk man
Paul williams needs to change trainers like get an emanuel steward or even buddy mcgirt...bundrage could knock out williams and vice versa. williams doesnt fight tall which drives me crazy, he likes to fight like hes arturo gatti instead of tommy hearns smh
He doesn't have Tommy Hearns power nor does he have the boxing skills of Tommy Hearns. The only way for him to be effective is to go forward and be a volume puncher. He needs someone like Robert Garcia or Joe Goosen to maximize his potential. Steward or Mcgirt would make him worse
showtime? really? makes sense since how hes fallen off from an avoided fighter to avoiding fighters. dont have mujch evidence to support that but i know hes not trying to face anyone with a real punch
Williams gets KTFO against Martinez in 2 rounds..takes on Lara right after and gets his ass kicked. Now wants to get another tough opponent, one who fought to a Draw with the guy that just kicked his ass, another one is a top JMW. Say what you want about this guys flaws, but damn, he just does not take any shortcuts.
W. Matthysse, Margarito, Winky, Cintron, Martinez twice, Quintana twice, Lara, Phillips. Called the hell out of Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley, Pacquiao...Called out for a Margarito rematch right after Margarito brutalized Cotto and nobody wanted Margarito. This guy even said okay to a Hopkins fight, but negotiations never started I forgot why. On top of all of this he still wants a Martinez trilogy despite what Martinez did to him in their rematch.
How can you hate on the guy?
Williams is a warrior no doubt, and seemingly a real nice guy. Here are some of the reason people hate on him though:
1. He's at his lowest point, it's easy to rag on him now. It's NSB bread and butter.
2. He was badly overrated. People had him in their top 3-5 p4p without having beaten a top 20 p4pounder. He was rated no 2 at MW without having beaten a top 10 MW.
3. The massive size advantage. Some hate on Donaire for the same reason
4. Once he was minted p4p, he stopped being so accommodating. He had to be forced into the Martinez rematch by HBO, and then demanded a CW, unbecoming of a no 2 MW who dragged Sergio up to MW in the first place. Surprisingly he caught little flack for this, in contrast to some other boxers
man, Paul williams is my favorite fighter, met him a few times at the augusta boxing club and he's a cool dude. Say what you want about the dude skills but you cant question his heart. Never ducked anyone
Williams gets KTFO against Martinez in 2 rounds..takes on Lara right after and gets his ass kicked. Now wants to get another tough opponent, one who fought to a Draw with the guy that just kicked his ass, another one is a top JMW. Say what you want about this guys flaws, but damn, he just does not take any shortcuts.
W. Matthysse, Margarito, Winky, Cintron, Martinez twice, Quintana twice, Lara, Phillips. Called the hell out of Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley, Pacquiao...Called out for a Margarito rematch right after Margarito brutalized Cotto and nobody wanted Margarito. This guy even said okay to a Hopkins fight, but negotiations never started I forgot why. On top of all of this he still wants a Martinez trilogy despite what Martinez did to him in their rematch.
How can you hate on the guy?
allll of that.....and he throws 100s of shots, comes forward, fights at any weightclass, and has a chin that never let him down until Martinez........always got a smile on his face, doesn't take himself too seriously, is accessible to fans.......i have no idea where it comes from.
Paul williams needs to change trainers like get an emanuel steward or even buddy mcgirt...bundrage could knock out williams and vice versa. williams doesnt fight tall which drives me crazy, he likes to fight like hes arturo gatti instead of tommy hearns smh
Williams gets KTFO against Martinez in 2 rounds..takes on Lara right after and gets his ass kicked. Now wants to get another tough opponent, one who fought to a Draw with the guy that just kicked his ass, another one is a top JMW. Say what you want about this guys flaws, but damn, he just does not take any shortcuts.
W. Matthysse, Margarito, Winky, Cintron, Martinez twice, Quintana twice, Lara, Phillips. Called the hell out of Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley, Pacquiao...Called out for a Margarito rematch right after Margarito brutalized Cotto and nobody wanted Margarito. This guy even said okay to a Hopkins fight, but negotiations never started I forgot why. On top of all of this he still wants a Martinez trilogy despite what Martinez did to him in their rematch.
How can you hate on the guy?
hopefully pwill gets a 2nd wind and we see him vs kirkland b4 hes too far gone. That might be better than kirkland angulo.
Williams is too far gone for that. Kirkland would run through him.