If margarito truly did not know that his wraps were loaded for the mosley fight, how would he know they were not loaded for the cotto fight? Simple question, should be a simple answer.
And yet, margarito confidently says his wraps were not loaded in the cotto fight...how would he know? Tbh, it made my blood boil in that 24/7 when they were showing him that pic, and he goes 'oh that cotto, always crying and making excuses'. What a p.o.s., If he truly did not know his wraps were loaded, he should recognize the very real possibility that they were loaded(unknowingly) against Cotto. And loaded gloves in boxing is no fukn joke.
He is acting like a criminal, and he did know. Sorry for another marg thread.
glue? adhesive is included on back freak what do you use Elmers? Rubber cement?
There's the problem, see we just had communication issues. Can we be friends now?
No~ we can not be friends and #2 that is one brand of tape you posted, in addition we do not use that kind of tape....
it does not have the ingredients for the glue you dumbass you need to try again either way, the pad itself was taken from one dressing room to another anything could have been placed on it
glue? adhesive is included on back freak what do you use Elmers? Rubber cement?
There's the problem, see we just had communication issues. Can we be friends now?
Mann your all over these forums testifying about wraps with 2 weeks to go to the fight.Its a rinse,wash,repeat moment over and over.I'm athletic,have and still box,and when I'm not doing nothing all I do is research but some of the things your stating are redicuuuuulous.Save it for some aftermath.
You dont box because if you did you would know that you take the gauze pad set it aside over night it does become firm every single fighter who has used "Gauze" knows this.
Now you do have people that come to the gym and have regular wraps from stores such as Big 5, the colored ones such as red or blue, when you unwrap those its just one piece but even with those if you hang them out to dry they to get a little crunchy
its a fact~
its true dont take my word for it ask some people who box ask Rockin he is around these parts he will tell you if you leave your gauze pad out over night it does dry and get hard like a sponge, I dont expect the couch experts to know cus most here including you have never fought
Mann your all over these forums testifying about wraps with 2 weeks to go to the fight.Its a rinse,wash,repeat moment over and over.I'm athletic,have and still box,and when I'm not doing nothing all I do is research but some of the things your stating are redicuuuuulous.Save it for some aftermath.
The first link I posted is an MSDS of surgical tape, no calcium no sulfur my man. I included lotion because that was the next most common BS circulated.
please try your call again
it does not have the ingredients for the glue you dumbass you need to try again either way, the pad itself was taken from one dressing room to another anything could have been placed on it
I never said lotion I said in the glue from the tape now go look up what is in glue your source sux ass as that is not the type of tape they use...
Please try your call again
The first link I posted is an MSDS of surgical tape, no calcium no sulfur my man. I included lotion because that was the next most common BS circulated.
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Oh.wow.
That sounds abt right.
Mann your rediculios.Trying to rewrite history.I expected this from a guy like you who gets email updates from margarito's manager and **** :rofl: :rofl:
its true dont take my word for it ask some people who box ask Rockin he is around these parts he will tell you if you leave your gauze pad out over night it does dry and get hard like a sponge, I dont expect the couch experts to know cus most here including you have never fought
Thats because he did not have loaded wraps for the mosley bout neither, he had a old pad that was either used from the Cotto fight or in the gym and when you set those pads aside after using them over night they get hard.
Oh.wow.
That sounds abt right.
Mann your rediculios.Trying to rewrite history.I expected this from a guy like you who gets email updates from margarito's manager and **** :rofl: :rofl:
I call Bull**** twit. Aint no Sulfur or Calcium in that kinda tape or lotion
http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=SSSSSuUn_zu8l00x4xt958tvPv70k17zHvu9lxtD7SSSSSS--
chemical list of common lotion
INGREDIENTS: WATER, GLYCERIN, ALCOHOL DENAT., CETEARYL ALCOHOL, CETYL ESTERS, GLYCERYL DILAURATE, CETYL ALCOHOL, CETEARETH-20, LANOLIN OIL, DIMETHICONE, FRAGRANCE, ACRYLATES/C10-30 ALKYL ACRYLATE CROSSPOLYMER, SODIUM HYDROXIDE, METHYLPARABEN, PROPYLPARABEN, DMDM HYDANTOIN.
Man you are pathetic Margarito tried and would have used those same wrappings against Mosley had Naz not been so diligent, stacking is illegal and you've seen what many get away with in Vegas so it's just as plausible if not more so that Margs was using the same pads and wrapping against Cotto. Just admit it and get over it.
I never said lotion I said in the glue from the tape now go look up what is in glue your source sux ass as that is not the type of tape they use...
Please try your call again
I dont think anyone remembers that Cotto's nose busted bad in round 2. He was fighting till round 11 with a busted nose that hinder his stamina greatly i would imagine. Going to the ropes didnt help either, but i believe the shots that Cotto took seeing his face was abnormal. You ever get hit with leather with plaster built in? You'll swell up like crazy. I never seen that unless a speed guy just chops someones face but you can still tell the difference.
He ate alot of hard straight rights and uppercuts from mosley, ate some hard uppercuts from judah, the rest of his competition im not gonna count as hard punchers....except malignaggi :) lol
But ya, he ate alot of hard shots from mosley, yet had little to zero swelling after the fight, just a small cut on his brow.
Its all anecdotal evidence, i dont think we will ever know, but what i am pretty sure of is dec 3 is gonna be a bright spot for boxing, its gonna be a battle.
Dec 3rd is going to result in a bunch of but hurt haters again Margarito will win this fight
research whats in plaster paris, what they found in the wraps was sulfar & Calcium that is found in glue, which if the wrap was tapped as they say it was that tells you where those elements came from
Whats in plaster paris sounds similar but its not its called Calcium Sulfate, its one element meaning their findings of Sulfur and calcium tend to lead you to think that its in plaster paris, however when you research whats in plaster paris you dont see that.
I hit that fork in the road when they released the results, cus they did report those two compounds, and if not from plaster where did it come from?
So then I saw that micropscope photo of the wraps which is in black and white, the picture is on the web google it.
you notice what looks like Flakes and before jumping to any conclusion I had to think how could that have gotten there?
My answer was maybe that is residue form the adhesive off the tape? I mean the hands were wrapped fully tapped and everything.
So then you do your research into adhesives and glue etc... you find those two compounds right there, both Sulfur and Calcium...
I call Bull**** twit. Aint no Sulfur or Calcium in that kinda tape or lotion
http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=SSSSSuUn_zu8l00x4xt958tvPv70k17zHvu9lxtD7SSSSSS--
chemical list of common lotion
INGREDIENTS: WATER, GLYCERIN, ALCOHOL DENAT., CETEARYL ALCOHOL, CETYL ESTERS, GLYCERYL DILAURATE, CETYL ALCOHOL, CETEARETH-20, LANOLIN OIL, DIMETHICONE, FRAGRANCE, ACRYLATES/C10-30 ALKYL ACRYLATE CROSSPOLYMER, SODIUM HYDROXIDE, METHYLPARABEN, PROPYLPARABEN, DMDM HYDANTOIN.
Man you are pathetic Margarito tried and would have used those same wrappings against Mosley had Naz not been so diligent, stacking is illegal and you've seen what many get away with in Vegas so it's just as plausible if not more so that Margs was using the same pads and wrapping against Cotto. Just admit it and get over it.
You havent seen Cotto hit that much before neither
He ate alot of hard straight rights and uppercuts from mosley, ate some hard uppercuts from judah, the rest of his competition im not gonna count as hard punchers....except malignaggi :) lol
But ya, he ate alot of hard shots from mosley, yet had little to zero swelling after the fight, just a small cut on his brow.
Its all anecdotal evidence, i dont think we will ever know, but what i am pretty sure of is dec 3 is gonna be a bright spot for boxing, its gonna be a battle.
Cottos face is pretty comparable in damage between the two fights, maybe a little worse in the pac fight. I had never seen cottos face swell like that prior to the marg fight, against other hard punchers. Maybe margs potentially loaded gloves messed cottos face over enough, that his face would react more and more to shots?
You havent seen Cotto hit that much before neither
How so? if you look at it, he only destroyed one big man and that was a little big man Hatton, other than that he has had to do what Tony has done, break the man down and stop him in the later rounds.
and again if Margarito did have plaster in his wraps for the Cotto fight it would look much worse than the Pac Cotto fight, no matter how hard Manny hits plaster will do more damage
Cottos face is pretty comparable in damage between the two fights, maybe a little worse in the pac fight. I had never seen cottos face swell like that prior to the marg fight, against other hard punchers. Maybe margs potentially loaded gloves messed cottos face over enough, that his face would react more and more to shots?
he punches harder?
How so? if you look at it, he only destroyed one big man and that was a little big man Hatton, other than that he has had to do what Tony has done, break the man down and stop him in the later rounds.
and again if Margarito did have plaster in his wraps for the Cotto fight it would look much worse than the Pac Cotto fight, no matter how hard Manny hits plaster will do more damage
good point, but remember pac supposedly stacks his wraps. either way, stacks versus plaster, plaster should do more damage
Thank you and how is it that the plaster less Pacquiao did more facial damage to Cotto?
But here is what I am saying look at cotto in between rounds 10 and 11 as soon as his face is whipped he doesnt look that bad, the bloody pictures and the vicious beating give you that effect
Look at Cottos swelling with Pacquiao its twice as much should we say Manny used loaded wraps cus he did more facial damage to Miguel
good point, but remember pac supposedly stacks his wraps. either way, stacks versus plaster, plaster should do more damage
I agree, margs body work against cotto was awesome. But mosley, i do remember him landing quite a few hard right hands to cottos body, aswell has hard straight rights and uppercuts. Cottos face being busted up so damn much makes me raise an eyebrow aswell.
And i agree about how cotto should fight margarito, he's gotta go to the body tho, its crucial imo.
But here is what I am saying look at cotto in between rounds 10 and 11 as soon as his face is whipped he doesnt look that bad, the bloody pictures and the vicious beating give you that effect
Look at Cottos swelling with Pacquiao its twice as much should we say Manny used loaded wraps cus he did more facial damage to Miguel