Mayweather vs Pacquiao might be closer than you think

It doesn't matter how fast Pacquiao is because he cannot cut the ring off and Mayweather has longer arms than him. I hope this fight occurs so that I can be vindicated yet again. Mayweather's chin will only get tested if he tries to humiliate Pacquiao close quarter. Very good post and its something that people rarley point out Pacman has no idea how to cut off the ring he follows his opponents around ,it works for him because of his handspeed ,chin and southpaw footwork,againt fighters that simply dont know better.Against someone like Jr we have to assume he knows better,the template has been laid out by JMM 3x and even by mosley.circle to pacs right and he doesnt know what to do.The only man that u can say already beat floyd was Jose luis Castillo and that guy knows how to cut off the ring and apply pressure with massive amounts of body punching,Jr showed much activity throwing rt hands against Ortiz which found their mark quite easily the same will happen to Pac,however rt before the headbutt ortiz was getting in some thudding lefts and that makes things quite interesting.Pac is strictly a headhunter and im not so sure thats the way to beat floyd,A duran /castillo/chavez type style a smothering sustaind body attck is the best style suited to beat floyd imo....

waching mayweather on his woman hating, woman beating, trophy whore collecting, 50 cent homosexual bromancing, exaggeratiing, fake ass is worth any amount of money bottom line if pacquiao beats floyd he's greater than ali naw not even if he beats floyd

Depends on the rationale. I could see scenarios where the fight ends in a TKO or KO for Mayweather. It's hard to predict how a fighter will hold up mentally when he has no answers to the problem in front of him. I don't take issue with people predicting that Pacquiao will give Mayweather huge problems or even defeat Mayweather, I take issue with the rationale. I've yet to see someone give an intelligent argument to support those opinions. The post that you quoted saying "good post" is a perfect example of what I'm alking about. It wasn't a good post, it was illogical fanboy rhetoric. Lol it doesn't mean I agree with exactly every point I just think some good points were made, also this post by you is good. I've seen some people give good arguments as to why Pacquiao could beat Mayweather though, but this is a forum everyone can give their opinions I just some people here are being way too biased

PUGA why are you saying Manny will throw non stop and that he's a pressure fighter? He'll throw non stop if your target practice and you come forward and you're flat footed which makes it 100x easier, like Margarito. Manny's not like Castillo, not even close - Manny can't cut off the ring and he doesn't have an inside game. And no Manny will not throw non stop against Mayweather, what planet are you on? Did you not see him against Marquez? Marquez who has decent foot work and top counter punching ability made Pac very wary, Manny threw 600~ against Marquez and landed at a 30% rate. I'll be curious to see how much he lands against Mayweather, he won't throw 600 punches and he'll landed less.

What's the difference in people saying that Mayweather will defeat Pacquiao relatively easy and people like you acting as if it's a toss-up fight? They're both predictions, 1 is based on common sense and rational thinking while the other is based on heart and emotion alone. So you're telling me these predictions of Mayweather stopping Pacquiao are all just rational thinking? That's most likely a heavily biased opinion the people who say Mayweather will win be a clear decision fair enough that's more reasonable also yeh it's quite rational to think Pacquiao would do a lot better than Mosley and Ortiz he could beat Mayweather, either way the fight has gotta happen

What people have to realize is, Floyd is nowhere as offensive as JMM. JMM took many chances in order to land the shots he landed on Pac. Is Floyd willing to take that chance? JMM sacrificed defense in order to get his offense off. Floyd will NEVER make that sacrifice! Yes Floyd is the best counter puncher in the game, but he will need to actually fight! He's not going to get away with throwing 1 right hand lead at a time. Pac will win rounds on workrate alone. Throwing 15-20punches a round is not gonna cut it. When JMM countered Pac, he countered him with 2-3-4 punch combos. When is the last time we've seen Floyd do that. Now this is not to say that Floyd wont have success against Pac. All I'm saying is, dont use Pac's performance against JMM as a measuring stick against Floyd. Floyd and JMM although both very technical, are also very different! Couldn't agree more! I personally think Floyd has slowed a bit. Its true that Mayweather is a counter puncher, but not when he is going backwards, he usually make you miss in the center of the ring then catches you. I think Floyd because of his size advantage has no choice but to take the lead in this fight, which can lead to some very dangerous situations but I think he would be fine. People talk about how Marquez would step back and counter Pac all night, therefore it would be easy for Mayweather to do the same. Marquez throws more combos than Floyd backing up period. When Floyd gets the pressure put on him he'll attempt to catch you usually with a straight right hand, but more often than not following that he goes into defensive mode, and does not comeback with a a hook off the right hand. Marquez like you said made the commitment to do so. I still think Floyd can catch him in the center of the ring and use his jab to control the distance of the fight, but anytime he is moving backwards its going to create problems for him. When your that much bigger than your opponent and you have speed to boot, you plant your lead foot in the center of the ring and make him commit to breaking through to get to you. Floyd has been doing that quite a bit lately and he needs to do it against Pac. All of the sudden after last week people think Floyd's style resembles Sugar Ray Leonard. Hilarious really.

By the way some of you guys talk the fight shouldn't even happen what's the point you can just predict fights and that's it. Sure give your prediction but man it's gonna be a lot more competitive than a lot of you think I'm sure of that

What people have to realize is, Floyd is nowhere as offensive as JMM. JMM took many chances in order to land the shots he landed on Pac. Is Floyd willing to take that chance? JMM sacrificed defense in order to get his offense off. Floyd will NEVER make that sacrifice! Yes Floyd is the best counter puncher in the game, but he will need to actually fight! He's not going to get away with throwing 1 right hand lead at a time. Pac will win rounds on workrate alone. Throwing 15-20punches a round is not gonna cut it. When JMM countered Pac, he countered him with 2-3-4 punch combos. When is the last time we've seen Floyd do that. Now this is not to say that Floyd wont have success against Pac. All I'm saying is, dont use Pac's performance against JMM as a measuring stick against Floyd. Floyd and JMM although both very technical, are also very different! Great post

The problem is we probably wont get the fight , Manny Duckman is openly DUCKING Floyd , its Sooooooooooooooo OBVIOUS ,, Manny dont need to wait untill Xmas and his birthday to make a decision , it should have already been made , or thats what he been telling his fans for the last year , now its at the end of the line and both are coming of wins , the stage is set ,,,,and low and behold WTF , Manny wants to think about whether he wants Floyd or not ,,,, get fuken real , its a DUCK plain and simple , he wants Floyd to sign another fight thats the only reason Manny is stalling with saying WE WANT FLOYD NEXT lets move to the table !!! Dont give me the bullsh!t about he just fought , because he dont need to do anything , he can go on his holidays , just state publicly we will negotiate a fight with Floyd , its Floyd I want next ,,, its not hard to say !!

wrong...baldomir is your predictable type of pressure fighter where pac is not...once pac throws , he always goes for the kill....pac misses a lot but unfornately for floyd , there are other combinations followin every punch....so he might miss a lot but he'd connect unless you get out of his way....hwo is floyd going to connect if he spends most of his time getting away?...lol..unless he works on that workrate , he aint bettin pac even by tryin to outbox him... Lmao at this pactard trying to talk about boxing

Okay, you win. i always win.....you should know that by now...

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wrong...baldomir is your predictable type of pressure fighter where pac is not...once pac throws , he always goes for the kill....pac misses a lot but unfornately for floyd , there are other combinations followin every punch....so he might miss a lot but he'd connect unless you get out of his way....hwo is floyd going to connect if he spends most of his time getting away?...lol..unless he works on that workrate , he aint bettin pac even by tryin to outbox him... Okay, you win.

Baldomir is an "In your face" type of pressure Boxer, he's always there to be hit. Manny Pacquiao uses constant in and out ambush attacks, and will only go for the kill if he hurt you enough to knock you out. Manny leaves himself open whenever he jumps in and misses with his ambush attacks. If you have good timing and throw sharp punches, then you can time his rhythm and feeds off of his mistakes. wrong...baldomir is your predictable type of pressure fighter where pac is not...once pac throws , he always goes for the kill....pac misses a lot but unfornately for floyd , there are other combinations followin every punch....so he might miss a lot but he'd connect unless you get out of his way....hwo is floyd going to connect if he spends most of his time getting away?...lol..unless he works on that workrate , he aint bettin pac even by tryin to outbox him...

I serious LOL when I see guys use the "Pac is going to win rounds just on workrate alone" argument.

The judges will hate what Floyd does when he fights Pac, and will favour Pac with any decision. Its very likely JMM will have more success against Pac, than Floyd ever will.

What people have to realize is, Floyd is nowhere as offensive as JMM. JMM took many chances in order to land the shots he landed on Pac. Is Floyd willing to take that chance? JMM sacrificed defense in order to get his offense off. Floyd will NEVER make that sacrifice! Yes Floyd is the best counter puncher in the game, but he will need to actually fight! He's not going to get away with throwing 1 right hand lead at a time. Pac will win rounds on workrate alone. Throwing 15-20punches a round is not gonna cut it. When JMM countered Pac, he countered him with 2-3-4 punch combos. When is the last time we've seen Floyd do that. Now this is not to say that Floyd wont have success against Pac. All I'm saying is, dont use Pac's performance against JMM as a measuring stick against Floyd. Floyd and JMM although both very technical, are also very different! Exactly Marquez throws combinations and is willing to stand in the pocket and take a punch to give one. Floyd does neither! The Marquez fight in no way reflects whY would happen if Floyd fought Pacquiao, they aren't the same type of counter puncher! Marquez is willing to take chances Floyd isn't and that has much to do with his success.

I predict pbf stopping him late AFTER punishing him in the pocket. Long and Short range belongs to PBF. Mid-range I give a slight edge to the puppet. Many will be shocked if they fight how pbf destroys this guy in the pocket. But we all know they will never fight becuz TR has one of the best matchmakers in the sport. So, they know! It really confuses me how people say Floyd will stop Pac, when Floyd dont stop anyone, yet somehow is supposed to not only beat the best fighter of the last decade at least, but stop him in savage fashion as well. What has floyd done since his comeback to make people think he will stop Pac? Is it how he stopped SSM and bloated JMM in his last fights that make people think he will stop Pac, or maybe the powerful KO punch of Ortiz? Englighten me, or stop trying to be funny. Khan would beat Floyd.

I don't see how it would be close, what Manny brings to the table Floyd has answers for and Manny really no answers for the advantages that Floyd possesses. If Manny was bigger or better inside I could see him winning if he was good enough but he isn't either of those two things. Floyd stops him on a body shot after stripping away any illusions people may have~