Where is the asterix* making it clear Mayweather cheated Marquez on the scales?
He had Marquez prepare for a catchweight, and himself came in at the limit as a full fledge welter with a 4lb advantage at the weigh-in against a smaller guy coming coming up two divisions from lightweight. Joke fight in any era.
speak for yourself. i never look for him to get knockouts. thats not what type fighter he is in this day and age. manny is supposedly the big knockout machine but he clearly isnt getting any either. it is what it is. floyd is all style and all substance. he looks brillinat in the ring, thats enuff for most of his fans. its only the haters who look to discredit hir ring performances with **** like "oh, he didnt knock him out."
Floyd said himself he was going for the KO. But did he really?
Think to yourself why Floyd didn't press the action more and really go all out offensive to get JMM out of there? Floyd is also great at offense right? Then why not take out JMM? Maybe because JMM had to lead... I enjoyed the fight but that was an opportunity for Floyd to showcase, but he didn't. He doesn't do alot of things that fans would like to see.
speak for yourself. i never look for him to get knockouts. thats not what type fighter he is in this day and age. manny is supposedly the big knockout machine but he clearly isnt getting any either. it is what it is. floyd is all style and all substance. he looks brillinat in the ring, thats enuff for most of his fans. its only the haters who look to discredit hir ring performances with **** like "oh, he didnt knock him out."
Think to yourself why Floyd didn't press the action more and really go all out offensive to get JMM out of there? Floyd is also great at offense right? Then why not take out JMM? Maybe because JMM had to lead... I enjoyed the fight but that was an opportunity for Floyd to showcase, but he didn't. He doesn't do alot of things that fans would like to see.
manny fought him 3 times and never stopped him,he he NEVER clearly beat him...so what u talking bout?
Think to yourself why Floyd didn't press the action more and really go all out offensive to get JMM out of there? Floyd is also great at offense right? Then why not take out JMM? Maybe because JMM had to lead... I enjoyed the fight but that was an opportunity for Floyd to showcase, but he didn't. He doesn't do alot of things that fans would like to see.
Uh...what? If you (or anyone else) actually sits down and watch Mayweather, he leads alot when he fights. In his fight with JMM, he didn't just sit back the whole night and counter.
But you know what, it's clear that alot of posters just post and don't put much thought in their posts.
dont even bother with these fools. they let hate blind them to the truth. they are so stuck on defending manny and thinking hes so great that they are willing to ignore true **** just so they can hope manny has a chance. he doesnt tho. im very sure of it. unless floyd got old overnight that fight is a wash imo.
I will give Floyd all the credit in the world, greater than Pacquiao and best in his era, if he dominate JMM by being more offensive minded while following JMM around the ring. First, no "offensive" fighter has ever dominated JMM. He'll be the first. Second, doing so would solve what JMM does best, combination counter-punching. JMM gave away his greatest skill while maximizing Floyd's assets just to make the fight entertaining. Third, it will show Floyd's versatility that he's not just a defensive fighter. I'll turn Flomo, if Floyd decisively dominates JMM coming forward and being offensive.
What did Marquez do when Floyd followed him around in rounds 10 and 11?
Floyd is a "safety first" boxer. Reason why many fans find him boring to watch. Put another boring counter puncher in front of him like Marquez, what exactly would you expect? Marquez gave in. He had to do something to give the paying public their money's worth -- to Marquez's peril.
So these comparisons are useless and stupid. Put these fighters in a ring without time limit and let's see who will survive. The counter puncher will just stay on a defensive stance without making things happen.
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Uh...what? If you (or anyone else) actually sits down and watch Mayweather, he leads alot when he fights. In his fight with JMM, he didn't just sit back the whole night and counter.
But you know what, it's clear that alot of posters just post and don't put much thought in their posts.
"Marquez is a counter puncher and he was forced to be the aggressor and Mayweather is a bad style match up for him"
What does this ideology have to do with anything?
Since when is a bad style match up a reason to discredit a fight?
Im not discrediting anyone Im putting down the idea that Marquez's performance against Pac last saturday guerentees Floyd Victory If pac and Floyd ever fight.
Floyd is only able to do well against JMM types is because JMM had to fight in a unnatural way for himself by pushing the action, attacking and throwing first. This allowed Floyd to counter a bloated overweight fighter which is easy.
Floyd hasnt guilt problems like other boxers, but JMM felt awkward with the periods of inactivty and no action, he felt for the fans. So felt he had to throw first.
Counter punching a bloated fighter is easy, voila, floyd knew this.
"Marquez is a counter puncher and he was forced to be the aggressor and Mayweather is a bad style match up for him"
What does this ideology have to do with anything?
Since when is a bad style match up a reason to discredit a fight?
Dont be so butt hurt , put your pen to pushing Duckman to take the fight then you can talk about what Duckman will do to Floyd , untill then your boy looks exposed and is ducking openly , his resume is a hype job of made to order opponents forced to weight draining catch weights .
Clottey , you didnt see where he admitted the fix in the Pac fight , lol the whole Pac WW story is hoax .
Yeah if Clottey admited to a fight being fixed I think just about every major news source in the world would of reported on it so yeah I have no idea what you are talking about. And again not a pac fan, anyone who knows me on this board can tell you I could really careless about Pac.
Dude make all your little fan boy comments all you want Im not a Pac fan never have been and never will be. So I could really careless how much smack you talk about him. I just don't think Floyd is guerenteed victory based on the Marquez fight.
And I don't know what stupid bullshhiitt your are spouting about Mosely and Clottey so Im just going to ignore that part.
Dont be so butt hurt , put your pen to pushing Duckman to take the fight then you can talk about what Duckman will do to Floyd , untill then your boy looks exposed and is ducking openly , his resume is a hype job of made to order opponents forced to weight draining catch weights .
Clottey , you didnt see where he admitted the fix in the Pac fight , lol the whole Pac WW story is hoax .
The whole world knows Pac is gunna get flogged , only little fanboys coming out from under their rocks days later talk different , its like the Mosley fight how you all hid like cockroaches for days before you came back with your bullsh!t , now the JMM farce and Duckman is exposed again , Clottey admitting the fix was on , Cws and all Mannys bullsh!t lol , dude is a fake .
No wonder Duckman is openly ducking Floyd they all know what will happen if the fake gets in the ring with Floyd .
Dude make all your little fan boy comments all you want Im not a Pac fan never have been and never will be. So I could really careless how much smack you talk about him. I just don't think Floyd is guerenteed victory based on the Marquez fight.
And I don't know what stupid bullshhiitt your are spouting about Mosely and Clottey so Im just going to ignore that part.
Floyd landed more elbows than anything....how can this fool be considered a good boxer when he can't throw anything more than a 2 piece? Damn I miss REAL defensive boxers like Sweet Pea and young James Toney. These garbage a$$ clowns today (and their fans that enjoy it), SHEESH.
Your an idiot buhahahahaha .
Floyd landed more elbows than anything....how can this fool be considered a good boxer when he can't throw anything more than a 2 piece? Damn I miss REAL defensive boxers like Sweet Pea and young James Toney. These garbage a$$ clowns today (and their fans that enjoy it), SHEESH.
Floyd is a "safety first" boxer. Reason why many fans find him boring to watch. Put another boring counter puncher in front of him like Marquez, what exactly would you expect? Marquez gave in. He had to do something to give the paying public their money's worth -- to Marquez's peril.
So these comparisons are useless and stupid. Put these fighters in a ring without time limit and let's see who will survive. The counter puncher will just stay on a defensive stance without making things happen.
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