Pac is so good that if he doesnt annihilate his oppoents, its considered a failure!

Seriously! When Pac had 2 close fights with JMM, nobody was talking about how he was exposed or overrated. Some had Pac winning both fights, while some had JMM winning, while some had it a split. Pac moves on and completely destroys/shuts out his next 7 opponets. Diaz, Oscar, Hatton, Cotto Clottey, Margarito, and Shane. He shuts out Shane 12rounds to 0, even drops him, and somehow the haters claim he was exposed! On the same token, they claimed Floyd put on a masterpeice against Shane although Shane almost put Floyd's head in the 3rd row. This here tells you how high the haters hold Pac. First he was this undestructable steroid freak, and now that he had a tough close fight with his nemesis, he's on the decline, shot, exposed, cycling off peds, etc..... LOL. Fact is, Pac and JMM can fight 10 times and it will be close all 10 times. Styles make fights. Was Mayorga a better boxer than Vernon Forrest because he lost to him 2x? Absolutely not. no his trainers hold pac that high, talking all that crap about how they were gonna knock marquez and in 4 rounds and marquez comes out and takes it too pac. they thought marquez was WASHED UP which he is close to but not there yet i wasnt suprised marquez was able to do this i was suprise at how HUGE marquez looked and he was still able to win the fight with limited mobility, limited speed, but his timing was the key in my eyes. pac is a low key fraud and hes slowly begining to be found out by the media and casual fans. theres just too much fishy stuff going on http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rwrEmHbC7rs

this thread is on point!!!! i just rewatched the fight and before i had it 116- 112 form manny but after watching it again i had it 117 - 111 !!!!! dont get me rong marquez had some good moments but manny won desicivley in my eyes !!!! When you watched and scored that fight, did you by chance have the television off and a blindfold on?

Again, how is coming in heavier an advantage? Thanks in advance. Weren't u flomos crying about how PAC was going to have a weight advantage on JMM who is a LW? If being heavier in boxing isn't an advantage, why even have weight classes?

Seriously! When Pac had 2 close fights with JMM, nobody was talking about how he was exposed or overrated. Some had Pac winning both fights, while some had JMM winning, while some had it a split. Pac moves on and completely destroys/shuts out his next 7 opponets. Diaz, Oscar, Hatton, Cotto Clottey, Margarito, and Shane. He shuts out Shane 12rounds to 0, even drops him, and somehow the haters claim he was exposed! On the same token, they claimed Floyd put on a masterpeice against Shane although Shane almost put Floyd's head in the 3rd row. This here tells you how high the haters hold Pac. First he was this undestructable steroid freak, and now that he had a tough close fight with his nemesis, he's on the decline, shot, exposed, cycling off peds, etc..... LOL. Fact is, Pac and JMM can fight 10 times and it will be close all 10 times. Styles make fights. Was Mayorga a better boxer than Vernon Forrest because he lost to him 2x? Absolutely not. Lets all hope now that Pac/May gets done for May 5th! Perfectly explained..

Weren't u flomos crying about how PAC was going to have a weight advantage on JMM who is a LW? If being heavier in boxing isn't an advantage, why even have weight classes? THIS is your response? Really? Maybe I should have stated the question better for you. How EXACTLY did JMM have the advantage by coming in 2 pounds heavier ON FIGHT NIGHT?

Again, how is coming in heavier an advantage? Thanks in advance. Weren't u flomos crying about how PAC was going to have a weight advantage on JMM who is a LW? If being heavier in boxing isn't an advantage, why even have weight classes?

pactards love reverse psychology. it fools them into thinking the playing field is even and that everyone is as dumb as they are.

Again, how is coming in heavier an advantage? Thanks in advance. :feedback::feedback::feedback:

He may of never lost a round to Mosley but he didn't look good doing it. Pacquiao beat Mosley simply by outworking him every round. Nonetheless, he won clearly against a good welterweight. Mayweather's performance against Mosley was better imo. Besides getting caught big by a couple of punches in round 2 which to me showed just how good Mayweather's chin and mental toughness is, he dominated Mosley in better fashion. Mayweather wasn't expected to stand in Mosley's range like that yet he did and dominated with pin point jabs, lead right hands and left hooks. He also made Mosley look average on the inside. I don't think it's right to state that Pacquiao standards are different from everyone elses and then use Mayweather as an example considering Mayweather gets the least credit for whatever he does on this website. pactards love reverse psychology.

hahahaha!! i wonder if u pac fans understand that making these threads only makes pac look worse. its hilarious. ur not helping. all u do is expose your desire to ride mannys d ick and ur lack of boxing knowledge. just dont make anymore threads. let it go away.

Again, how is coming in heavier an advantage? Thanks in advance.

Seriously! When Pac had 2 close fights with JMM, nobody was talking about how he was exposed or overrated. Some had Pac winning both fights, while some had JMM winning, while some had it a split. Pac moves on and completely destroys/shuts out his next 7 opponets. Diaz, Oscar, Hatton, Cotto Clottey, Margarito, and Shane. He shuts out Shane 12rounds to 0, even drops him, and somehow the haters claim he was exposed! On the same token, they claimed Floyd put on a masterpeice against Shane although Shane almost put Floyd's head in the 3rd row. Your reasoning is utterly specious and nonsensical. Most of these "haters" that you're talking about are formally folks who were blindly for Pacquiao. As to Manny's next seven opponents, only someone trying to fool themselves would give Manny full credit for beating fighters on the decline or that have been badly beaten in their previous fights. Also if you remember, when Floyd fought Shane, Shane was actually ranked in the P4P rankings and coming off one of the biggest wins of his career, the utter and complete annihilation of Antonio Margarito. This here tells you how high the haters hold Pac. First he was this undestructable steroid freak, and now that he had a tough close fight with his nemesis, he's on the decline, shot, exposed, cycling off peds, etc..... LOL. Fact is, Pac and JMM can fight 10 times and it will be close all 10 times. Styles make fights. Was Mayorga a better boxer than Vernon Forrest because he lost to him 2x? Absolutely not. Lets all hope now that Pac/May gets done for May 5th! This whole rationale of Manny and Marquez fighting ten times and getting the same result is a conclusion some have come to in retrospect. As I remember there were many inept predictions of Manny taking Marquez out in three rounds or less? So when it didn't happen, those that worship the diminutive Filipino as some sort of deity needed a fall back position that left Manny’s status as P4P king intact. The fact is, Manny Pacquiao is a tremendous boon for the sport of boxing and I wish him nothing but continued success. But what I can't do however is bury my head in the sand and act like Pacquiao and his limited boxing ability weren’t exposed, they were. The only people that thought Manny was invincible were his fans.

cant beleive the double standards on here.manny can go thru hell get a disputed win and come out looking like a bruised turd and he's a warrior.floyd can dominate the entire fight get hit 1 time and he has no legs and looks shot

And that's what overhyping a fighter does.

Annihilate huh. The guy lost on points to the same guy he struggled to beat 4 years ago. That would mean that he's gotten worse....

Uhhh for starters weight, Marquez has done nothing impressive @ that weight class and he looked substantially slower than Pac. Pac is faster, more powerful, younger with JMM being 38. If Pac has problems with Marquez 10/10 times then he still has a real problem with counter punchers doesn't he? And it just shows you why he's avoided JMM for so long up until now - remember Pac said "business is over" regarding Marquez when Marquez wanted a rematch years ago. Somehow they changed their minds in 2011. It blew back in their faces, rightly so. He's done nothing impressive because he was against the best P4P at that time. Sure Floyd wasn't active but we all know he keeps in shape. You can't really base his only one performance as not impressive since you can't really measure him at that weight anyways. Marquez is a true legend.

:lol1: How is coming heavier an advantage? That's what I'm saying. Someone explain this please.

Anybody else notice Pacman hasn't had a knockout victory since Mayweather accused him of using steroids??

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:lol1: How is coming heavier an advantage?