Dec. 3rd Undercard fighter: "Cotto-Margarito is going to Texas"

lol. i dont think u get how these things work... the have the right to not believe them. thats their job. if they think an athlete isnt fit to compete, they arent supposed to let them compete. what part of that dont u get? unlike u they arent easily swayed by "expert" opinions. their own experts said otherwise and they went with them. i dont see the issue. if u wanna be butthurt be butthurt at arum, not at a sports comission for doing the right thing for once Exactly. They lead them on. They were gonna deny him all along.

After reading all of this ****, has anyone thought that NY may be denying the license because Nevada did (waiting on Cali to approve)? I very well could be about the eye, but 2 states denied Margs for "the other" reason... All blame goes to Arum, not verifying that Margs would be approved prior to announcing the fight\venue...

How many did they need? How many did NYSAC provide to argue the against them? This was a case where Top Ranks provided evidence and NYSAC simply said "nah we just dont believe you". What exactly did Top Rank need to do to prove their point? Have 300 of the world top experts? :lol1: And they should believe rumors rather then expert testimony?? Hmmm lol. i dont think u get how these things work... the have the right to not believe them. thats their job. if they think an athlete isnt fit to compete, they arent supposed to let them compete. what part of that dont u get? unlike u they arent easily swayed by "expert" opinions. their own experts said otherwise and they went with them. i dont see the issue. if u wanna be butthurt be butthurt at arum, not at a sports comission for doing the right thing for once

two of the worlds leading experts. two. u think there arent plenty of other "leading" experts??? lol. u are gullible. and thats why it is a hearing. u have to decide whether to confirm or deny. ur not making any sense. i dont think u get how administrative hearings go at all. and ur rite, i cant judge, but my eyes tell me theres something wrong and even earner, whos an insider in margs came said he was only working with 20/40 vision. How many did they need? How many did NYSAC provide to argue the against them? This was a case where Top Ranks provided evidence and NYSAC simply said "nah we just dont believe you". What exactly did Top Rank need to do to prove their point? Have 300 of the world top experts? :lol1: And they should believe rumors rather then expert testimony?? Hmmm

Gullible about what? 2 of the worlds leader experts approved of it. Just because NYSAC thought it wasnt good, doesnt mean they should simply ignore expert's diagnoses. So on what basis is NYSAC denying him a licence? Because THEY think its bad? Who are they to judge the state of the eye. Then they call a "hearing", have experts and everybody testify, yet still deny him. So why have the hearing? And i am no Ophthalmologist so i cant judge on the state of his eye and neither can you. I'd take the experts opinion rather then yours two of the worlds leading experts. two. u think there arent plenty of other "leading" experts??? lol. u are gullible. and thats why it is a hearing. u have to decide whether to confirm or deny. ur not making any sense. i dont think u get how administrative hearings go at all. and ur rite, i cant judge, but my eyes tell me theres something wrong and even earner, whos an insider in margs came said he was only working with 20/40 vision.

I don't really see how the two things are at all related though :grumpy: Me neither. NY has a habit of screwing itself out of money, especially in recent times where there are deficits in the budget. They don't allow MMA, and the UFC would LOVE to stage a show here, especially MSG. They tax out the ass for Boxers, especially foreign fighters. And for a while all the TV shows and movies were abandoning NYC because they refused to give tax credits to productions (The entertainment industry floods the city with jobs and cash). Add Cotto-Margarito to the list :nonono:

they arent stupid. im an aspiring lawyer. u get experts to say whatever it is u want them to. lol...i cant believe u guys are gullible. did u see his eye??? theres no way its ok. not to mention he has a lens in it... Gullible about what? 2 of the worlds leader experts approved of it. Just because NYSAC thought it wasnt good, doesnt mean they should simply ignore expert's diagnoses. So on what basis is NYSAC denying him a licence? Because THEY think its bad? Who are they to judge the state of the eye. Then they call a "hearing", have experts and everybody testify, yet still deny him. So why have the hearing? And i am no Ophthalmologist so i cant judge on the state of his eye and neither can you. I'd take the experts opinion rather then yours

lol....aspiring lawyer. i dont get wats funny...didnt ask u to believe me. the point is u get an expert to say what u want him to say. thats how it works. as long as they are an expert and there is no unanimous opinion(which there never is)its cool.

I don't really see how the two things are at all related though :grumpy: I'm trying to figure that out myself. Waiting for a reply.

Chris Mannix and Dan Rafael have referenced the lawsuit as the driving force behind the reason they won't give Margo the license. I don't really see how the two things are at all related though :grumpy:

they arent stupid. im an aspiring lawyer. u get experts to say whatever it is u want them to. lol...i cant believe u guys are gullible. did u see his eye??? theres no way its ok. not to mention he has a lens in it... lol....aspiring lawyer.

I thought the UFC and MMA in general was just not sanctioned at all in NY State. Just found info on the lawsuit, and it's about allowing MMA in the state. http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/11/16/ufc-sues-new-york-state-officials-in-latest-mma-legalization-attempt/ Chris Mannix and Dan Rafael have referenced the lawsuit as the driving force behind the reason they won't give Margo the license.

While i do mostly blame Arum for this, i find it extremely weird that NYSAC pretty much ignored 2 of the best doctors who spoke on the eye and said it was good and also were present in much of the promotion's pressers they arent stupid. im an aspiring lawyer. u get experts to say whatever it is u want them to. lol...i cant believe u guys are gullible. did u see his eye??? theres no way its ok. not to mention he has a lens in it...

While i do mostly blame Arum for this, i find it extremely weird that NYSAC pretty much ignored 2 of the best doctors who spoke on the eye and said it was good and also were present in much of the promotion's pressers

I think this card is over, I dont think Cotto's camp will agree to a new venue so Bob will have to come up with a doable substitute for Margs or.......fuk I dont know what a mess.

danrafaelespn Dan Rafael Have at it Fight Freaks! Let your voices be heard to the NYSAC and be polite. E-mail: athletic@dos.state.ny.us. Phone: 212-417-5700. why??? nysac isnt a company. its a municipal agency. they dont do what the ppl want them to do, they dont get paid by boxing fans, they get paid by the taxpayers of ny, like myself. they dont owe fans anything. its stupid to go after the commission. they did their job. arum didnt.

I thought the UFC and MMA in general was just not sanctioned at all in NY State. Just found info on the lawsuit, and it's about allowing MMA in the state. http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/11/16/ufc-sues-new-york-state-officials-in-latest-mma-legalization-attempt/ Thanks for clarifying that.

Looks like the primary reason the fight can't be sanctioned in NY is that the UFC has a lawsuit pending on the State for not allowing one of there fighters to fight for the same reason. So if they allow the fight to happen they screw themselves on the lawsuit which is worth close to 100 million dollars. Huh? There is no MMA allowed in NY period This doesnt make sense

danrafaelespn Dan Rafael Have at it Fight Freaks! Let your voices be heard to the NYSAC and be polite. E-mail: athletic@dos.state.ny.us. Phone: 212-417-5700. thanks email sent.

So glad i waited off buying a ticket