Firstly, Pacquiao was definitely helped by the fact that saturday was the "pacquiao" fight and not just a fight between two talented boxers.
Everybody has an opinion about who won with many fans, and boxers, saying marquez while a rising tide is sticking with pacquiao.
That rising tide is depending on compubox numbers, namely that pacquiao out-threw AND out-landed marquez. This is a bad argument because...in the second fight, marquez out-landed pacquiao 172-157 with a better landing percentage and still lost by multiple rounds on a judge's scorecard.
Then we have de la hoya-mosley II, where de la hoya out-landed mosley 221-127 and still lost 113-115 on ALL scorecards.
Another fight that is very close to pacquiao-marquez III is the de la hoya-trinidad fight, where de la hoya out-landed trinidad 263-116 but gave away the championship rounds in the loss.
marvin hagler-sugar ray, where hagler played pacquiao's role of closing the distance while sugar ray backpedaled and counter-punched. sugar ray won that.
floyd-castillo, de la hoya-sturm, de la hoya-whitaker, this happens so often, we just don't know until the cards are read.
This is my point. This was a CLOSE fight. This was in no way shape or form a robbery such as the lara-williams or the alexander-Mattysse fights. Mexicans are not only the most biased towards their fighters but are the biggest crybabies. Nacho Beristein is a total doucher. He cost his fighter the fight then put it on the judges and called it the biggest robbery ever. HE'S A BOXING TRAINER, he should know better then to be guilty of typical Mexican ignorance and bias.
your wrong thats pac****s
sorry to interupt the circle jerk u started here... but any "Real boxing fan" knows compubox holds as much water as the levee system in new orleans. Compubox is 2 guys pressing buttons when they think a punch lands. This counts glancing blows, and punches that dont inflict damage. Even if the punch stats were 100% you could win a round landing 20-1 and lose a round getting out landed 12-9. If you keep up that pace winning 6 rounds and losing 6, the punch stats will be lopsided but it would still be a draw. You judge boxing round by round. Proceed.
true, but, if you're debating with people that use compubox numbers to argue whether this or that fighter won, compubox numbers should also be used to show that that argument doesn't hold water.
thanks for the input though.
sorry to interupt the circle jerk u started here... but any "Real boxing fan" knows compubox holds as much water as the levee system in new orleans. Compubox is 2 guys pressing buttons when they think a punch lands. This counts glancing blows, and punches that dont inflict damage. Even if the punch stats were 100% you could win a round landing 20-1 and lose a round getting out landed 12-9. If you keep up that pace winning 6 rounds and losing 6, the punch stats will be lopsided but it would still be a draw. You judge boxing round by round. Proceed.
in actuality, it seemed like marquez got in there and forgot his own words. he said himself that he can't put the fight in the hands of the judges and then fought the last couple of rounds like he had done enough.
he's had enough bad decisions in big fights that he should be thinking, unless your opponent is out-cold, there's always more work to be done.
i will say, between the second and third fights, he should have a win. from completely out-landing to, now, landing the harder punches, judges aren't taking into account that he is a counter-puncher so manny will always be the "ring general" in their fights.
that said, i don't think a fourth fight will do him any better. jmm cannot knock pacquiao out.
i agree, either guy could of won that fight. Dont understand what the big stink is about. nacho should blame himself, had he told marquez its close win these rounds perhaps he would of got the win. instead he tells him youve got this be smart. even emanuel said nacho was wrong for telling marquez he was winning.
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