First of all, I think a 4th fight is pointless as Manny will never beat JMM decisively and there styles mesh so well together that they will always produce drawish/close decision type matches. With that said:
The same people who claim Marquez won, that Manny got exposed, that Manny is a hype-job, that Manny can't beat counter punchers, that Manny would get destroyed by Floyd or whatever negative response you have had post Saturday night are the same people bashing Manny for wanting to face Marquez for a 4th time.
I felt Manny won 115-113, and want to see Pacquiao vs Mayweather May 5th, but if he chooses to silence the critics, which he understandable has a lot of right now, I really can't blame him for rematching Marquez.
I haven't seen this much controversy after a big fight in a long time, so why would anyone hate on a guy who wants another shot at clearing it up?
With that said, If Manny is overrated,a bum and a hype job, why do Floyd fans want Mayweather to fight him? If you believe Manny lost, then whats wrong with him trying to avenge his defeat? Can you guys please make up your d@mn mind
if your a boxing then call bullsh!t and demand they make the fight with floyd. if not then just defend everything they do like you always do. all hail lord pacquiao.
Where in my post did I say I wanted to see MP vs JMM 4?
the only record Manny should be setting str8 is the Mayweather one...ppl think JMM beat him twice and he fought him a third time...and NOW dudes think JMM beat him three times....c'mon man, give it a break.....prove he's a clean athlete by taking those corny ass tests and then go prove he DESERVED to be mentioned in the same breath as Ali and Armstrong by sharing a ring with the most skilled fighter of his era.....it makes all the sense in the world to go fight Floyd NOW.....after ALL these years he STILL hasn't figured out how to beat JMM...what makes yall think he'll figure it out in a fourth fight?!?....don't be fools....the fight will cost money and guess who pays for it?!?...are you dudes that naive....if so, I can sale yall HD copies of the trilogy on e-bay for the same price yall pay for the PPV...halla at me :lol1:
I agree Manny should move on. I stated so in my opening post as I feel Manny will never beat this dude decisively and a 4th fight will end in a close/drawish type bout.
However, this thread is aimed at those contradicting themselves with their Manny bashing.
Also, regardless of what I think, I personally can't knock Manny for the competitor in him wanting to face Marquez for a 4th time.
It's no so much that he won......it's the back lash and questioning of his career/talents as fighter that is motivating him to want to face Marquez again. What athlete in Manny shoes, wouldn't want to face Marquez given the heat he is facing right now.
I know you want to see May vs Pac (I do as well) but I'm just looking at it from that perspective.
Your 100% right.
I'm a racist pinoy who blinding follows Manny. Excuse me while I go pray to my Manny statue made of Macorini and Elmer's glue.
if your a boxing then call bullsh!t and demand they make the fight with floyd. if not then just defend everything they do like you always do. all hail lord pacquiao.
I don't wanna see Manny-Marquez 4. Why? Marquez will never get the decision with the Mayweather fight looming in the judges mind.
Make it happen after he fights Floyd.
dont waste time debating with pactards theyre blinded by racial/national pride and will defend everything pac does and never objectively look at pacs actions logically. hes their god.
Your 100% right.
I'm a racist pinoy who blinding follows Manny. Excuse me while I go pray to my Manny statue made of Macorini and Elmer's glue.
the only record Manny should be setting str8 is the Mayweather one...ppl think JMM beat him twice and he fought him a third time...and NOW dudes think JMM beat him three times....c'mon man, give it a break.....prove he's a clean athlete by taking those corny ass tests and then go prove he DESERVED to be mentioned in the same breath as Ali and Armstrong by sharing a ring with the most skilled fighter of his era.....it makes all the sense in the world to go fight Floyd NOW.....after ALL these years he STILL hasn't figured out how to beat JMM...what makes yall think he'll figure it out in a fourth fight?!?....don't be fools....the fight will cost money and guess who pays for it?!?...are you dudes that naive....if so, I can sale yall HD copies of the trilogy on e-bay for the same price yall pay for the PPV...halla at me :lol1:
Pac said and I quote "I clearly won" do you know the contradiction in that and him wanting another match with Marquez? If you clearly won then move on, and Floyd fans want the fight to happen before something seriously and OFFICIALLY derails what is potentially the biggest match of our time. Asking why people want Floyd to fight Pac is just dumb, but good job deflecting it to Martinez - solid.Why are you bringing up Martinez when both Mayweather or Pac shouldn't even fight him? So you question why Floyd isn't fighting Martinez and not Pac?
I really have no issue with him saying he clearly won as I felt the same way. However the controversy and heat he is facing is undeniable, which is why I have no issue with him rematching Marquez if he chooses to do so (even though I feel it's pointless).
He had every opportunity to silence his critics on that night and he came up short, basically the whole PROMOTION of the fight was Pac getting sick of Marquez claiming he won the first two fights and he was going to shut him up once and for all. And bare in mind all the circumstances and advantages were very well in Pac's court.
Which is why team Pacquiao is embarrassed by a third close fight
So we are expected to sit back and watch them fight one more time with the same bullsh!t result? What's the point tell me? Besides inflating Arum's bank account? Guess you are with your username and all, yeah man Arum's doing a great job.
That is Arum's motive and it's clear as day. Sad and comical at the same time. I know the feeling of wanting to protect your rep and defend what you worked so hard to establish. That's why I don't knock Manny because the competitor in him is what's wanting him to face Marquez for the 4th time.
And people want Floyd to fight Manny even if people think Manny's overrated and what not because its a question being asked basically by EVERYONE, to answer the question 'who wins Floyd or Manny?' and if he is overrated then the fight will show this or dispute this since currently its all opinions and nothing definitive. Is that really hard to grasp?
Not really hard to grasp, but my point has always been that Manny is a great fighter. Whether you thing there are extras added onto it (due to matchmaking) or whatever, he is the guy that is and always will be the best opponent for Floyd to face.
I wish more people would accept the fact that Manny is a real challenge, whether you think Floyd wins decisively, and quite going on smear campaigns to minimize him as a fighter and the things he has accomplished. This goes for the idiot Pacquiao fans who try to minimize Mayweather's accomplishments and his talents as a fighter.
dont waste time debating with pactards theyre blinded by racial/national pride and will defend everything pac does and never objectively look at pacs actions logically. hes their god.
1.BECAUSE PACQUIAO ALREADY ROBBED MARQUEZ 2 TIMES
2.BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE MAYWEATHER FIGHT THIS HYPE JOB .
ALL OF A SUDDEN PACTARDS DONT WANT TO SEE PACQUIAO FIGHT MAYWEATHER ANYMORE :lol1:
pac is a hype job and yet floyd will only fight him if extra testing is done. whereas, jmm fought and exposed this hype job without that controversial osdt that floyd is demanding. hypejob indeed. you really do contradict yourselves all the time. smh.
Pac said and I quote "I clearly won" do you know the contradiction in that and him wanting another match with Marquez? If you clearly won then move on, and Floyd fans want the fight to happen before something seriously and OFFICIALLY derails what is potentially the biggest match of our time. Asking why people want Floyd to fight Pac is just dumb, but good job deflecting it to Martinez - solid. Why are you bringing up Martinez when both Mayweather or Pac shouldn't even fight him? So you question why Floyd isn't fighting Martinez and not Pac?
He had every opportunity to silence his critics on that night and he came up short, basically the whole PROMOTION of the fight was Pac getting sick of Marquez claiming he won the first two fights and he was going to shut him up once and for all. And bare in mind all the circumstances and advantages were very well in Pac's court. But yes I'm sure you'll support Arum's promotion of Pac-Marquez 11.
So we are expected to sit back and watch them fight one more time with the same bullsh!t result? What's the point tell me? Besides inflating Arum's bank account? Guess you are with your username and all, yeah man Arum's doing a great job.
And people want Floyd to fight Manny even if people think Manny's overrated and what not because its a question being asked basically by EVERYONE, to answer the question 'who wins Floyd or Manny?' and if he is overrated then the fight will show this or dispute this since currently its all opinions and nothing definitive. Is that really hard to grasp?
Retard , Your question is ridiculous and everybody knows the answer you are nothing but a dumbass , i cant believe i waisted my time with clown keep sucking and licking Poochiao .
Well answer these questions then?
Did Marquez beat Manny last Saturday? _________(yes or no)
Is Manny overrated and a hype job? _________ (yes or no)
If you answered yes to both, then why do you want Floyd to fight him?
A FAN OF THE SPORT MY ASS , YOU SOUND MORE LIKE A PACQUIAO DICKRIDER THIS IS WHY YOU ARE TROLLING MAYWEATHER FANS + YOU STILL THINK THAT POOCHIAO CAN BEAT MAYWEATHER AFTER HIS LOSS AGAINST A 38 YEAR OLD LIGHTWEIGHT WHO WAS PAST HIS PRIME :lol1:
When have I trolled Mayweather fans? I simply asked a question that your unevolved brain is incapable of processing.
A FAN OF THE SPORT MY ASS YOU SOUND MORE LIKE A PACQUIAO DICKRIDER THIS IS WHY YOU ARE TROLLING MAYWEATHER FANS + YOU STILL THINK THAT POOCHIAO CAN BEAT MAYWEATHER AFTER HIS LOSS AGAINST A 38 YEAR OLD LIGHTWEIGHT WHO WAS PAST HIS PRIME :lol1:
Syrian 400 of your post is about Pacquiao, does that conclude you as a Pactard?
Haters gon' hate
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It is really simple...Pac looked average again against a guy who Floyd blanked on the cards...Floyd can do everything JMM can do, except he does it even better...I can understand why Filipinos are in a state of mourning right now, Pac wasn't the invincible superhero you guys propped him up to be...he is just another fighter...
Floyd can't put punches together and throw the combinations Marquez can. Yes they are both counter punchers, but the comparison between the two ends there.
I love how you guys think Floyd is the "Tsang Tsung" of boxing able to emulate every other fighters style to a tee and turn into his opponents worst nightmare.
You clowns kill me with that bullsh1t...smh
As many as he wants?
I don't see anything wrong with Pac wanting another one to give it another shot.
Yeah, and I guess Ray Robinson is garbage for facing Lamotta 6 times even though he won 5 straight.
So basically they are knocking Manny for doing something the greatest fighter of all-time has done (not that I'm in favor of a 4th fight).
Its clear that you are scared to see Pacquiao lose .
Who really wanted to see this fight so bad ?
PACTARDS BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT PACQUIAO WAS A GREAT FIGHTER .
I honestly could care less if Manny were to lose. As a fan of the sport I realize that one fight doesn't define a fighter (even though I still favor Manny to beat Floyd).
However, your not a fan of the sport or even Mayweather for that manner. Your just a fan of his undefeated record, so once that's gone....your gone as well.
That my friend is the sad reality of things, which is why I feel sorry for a guy as talented as Mayweather to have fans such as yourself.
i dont see the hypocrisy. i for one scored the fight a draw. with that said, jmm lost officially. he will lose officially no matter what he does short of knocking manny out and chances of that happening are slim. another fight is pointless imo. the luster of pac vs. may took a big hit tho. but i would love to see the fight so that the pac train can be officially derailed. no more excuses for either man, get in the ring and lets see wat happens.
Well then you obviously skimmed over my points (No offense).
This thread is to those who claim Manny lost/was dominated by JMM. If that's the case, then why are those same people mad at Manny wanting to avenge that fight/end some of the controversy?
Also, I have seen you constantly call Manny a hype job. If that's the case why do you want Floyd to fight him instead of a guy who isn't overrated in Martinez?
First of all, I think a 4th fight is pointless as Manny will never beat JMM decisively and there styles mesh so well together that they will always produce drawish/close decision type matches. With that said:
The same people who claim Marquez won, that Manny got exposed, that Manny is a hype-job, that Manny can't beat counter punchers, that Manny would get destroyed by Floyd or whatever negative response you have had post Saturday night are the same people bashing Manny for wanting to face Marquez for a 4th time.
I felt Manny won 115-113, and want to see Pacquiao vs Mayweather May 5th, but if he chooses to silence the critics, which he understandable has a lot of right now, I really can't blame him for rematching Marquez.
I haven't seen this much controversy after a big fight in a long time, so why would anyone hate on a guy who wants another shot at clearing it up?
With that said, If Manny is overrated,a bum and a hype job, why do Floyd fans want Mayweather to fight him? If you believe Manny lost, then whats wrong with him trying to avenge his defeat? Can you guys please make up your d@mn mind
how many times is he going to get at silencing his critics?
We as Floyd fans knew manny was simple a well matched hype job that wasn’t good enough to beat Floyd but For the past 3 years all we heard was manny was the guy that would finally ko Floyd he was the fighter of the decade and a top 20 all-time great.
Manny and jmm fought 3 times already with jmm winning more rounds than manny but manny ends up getting the decision because he’s the bigger star. A 4 fight would most likely go the same way.
Again if that's the case, why fight Manny when you guys know for a fact that Martinez isn't a hype job and is willing to fight Floyd?
I just don't get the contradictions from Floyd fans. You guys are a confused bunch.
i dont see the hypocrisy. i for one scored the fight a draw. with that said, jmm lost officially. he will lose officially no matter what he does short of knocking manny out and chances of that happening are slim. another fight is pointless imo. the luster of pac vs. may took a big hit tho. but i would love to see the fight so that the pac train can be officially derailed. no more excuses for either man, get in the ring and lets see wat happens.
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