Rewatch the fight, this was no robbery. It was extremely close

You said booed right. The video showed fans just commentating on who think won the fight. The booing happened when they were still in their seats. The majority there were Pac fans but I guess you think that only mexicans boo-ed right? as if Mexicans dont know boxing right?

You can actually replay the fight in slow motion using VLC w/c I'm going to do.

I disagree, I really do, in order for aggression to even be a factor, you have to be in control, Marquez set the tone, he made it his kind of boxing match, Manny did nothing to take control of the fight. Manny was sloppy and wild and did not land more bombs than Marquez, Most of Mannys shots were picked off, Blocked, Parried or slipped. Not saying Manny didnt land anything but he landed very few good solid shots, while Marquez landed at a much higher frequency and they were cleaner more solid shots. First time watching it I had it 8 to 4 Marquez, 2nd and 3rd time 10 to 2 Marquez... Manny did not win that fight to make it simple for you.. It's the number of power punches landed per round. Pac won it. The number of punches thrown ain't what it's about. It's the one that landed that we can agree on. You just have to see that pac was countering the counter puncher. everytime Jmm counters pac answers back. Pac maybe wild but counting the punches. Pac had more. plus he had more power punches. ledderman was of 2 rounds. It was 7 rounds for pac. 6-6 debatable. But jmm winning far fetched really.

Sure it was all Marquez fans, Pacquiao fans who actually was at the fight well I guess they drank too much Tecate You said booed right. The video showed fans just commentating on who think won the fight. The booing happened when they were still in their seats.

I watched it again. Based it per round scoring.. I'll make it simple check out pac's landed shots. Those 7 rounds pac won. You can clearly see Pac landed more. there were a lot of missed shots by pac but alot more landed as well. Pac landed more simple really.. watch it again I dont see it, and the shots that Manny did land I would say about 85% of them were not clean effective

watch it without commentary, broadcasting team very pro-pacman

LOL, you heard the commentators and read some of the news regarding the fight that it was Marquez fans doing that. Stop with this robbery crap. Sure it was all Marquez fans, Pacquiao fans who actually was at the fight well I guess they drank too much Tecate

I disagree, I really do, in order for aggression to even be a factor, you have to be in control, Marquez set the tone, he made it his kind of boxing match, Manny did nothing to take control of the fight. Manny was sloppy and wild and did not land more bombs than Marquez, Most of Mannys shots were picked off, Blocked, Parried or slipped. Not saying Manny didnt land anything but he landed very few good solid shots, while Marquez landed at a much higher frequency and they were cleaner more solid shots. First time watching it I had it 8 to 4 Marquez, 2nd and 3rd time 10 to 2 Marquez... Manny did not win that fight I watched it again. Based it per round scoring.. I'll make it simple check out pac's landed shots. Those 7 rounds pac won. You can clearly see Pac landed more. there were a lot of missed shots by pac but alot more landed as well. Pac landed more simple really.. watch it again

watch it again. When jmm counters pac, they get in a exchange. He gets pac clean but what you guys don't notice pac was about to throw a counter shot as a shot was coming at him. They were exchanging shots. Pac was countering the counter puncher. Everytime pac got hit in the chin pac had a follow up shot coming from the right hook that hit jmm clean as well. Pac was wilder.. Jmm was the more precise but if you add the punches landed per round pac landed more shots per round. It's just that jmm throws more accurately.. But at the end of the day its the number of shots that landed. Pac landed more in the 7 rounds that he won. Jmm did good for 5 rounds. Pac was doing that but i think it was noticed due to that we don't see Pac doing that. We know Pac more as an attacker.

Seriously Manny Pacquiao is never boo-ed by his own people they never throw water bottles in there, Filipinos never come out and admit that Manny lost the way this went down last night. Wake up man, this was a robbery and I have no idea how you found 7 rounds to give to pac, I had Marquez winning ten rounds there man. LOL, you heard the commentators and read some of the news regarding the fight that it was Marquez fans doing that. Stop with this robbery crap.

Pac did land clean shots. But when he did land it was awkwardly thrown. marquez as a master class boxer looks precise showing his punches. Pac was throwing wild shots. He thrown more shots but in those bunches of shots he landed power punches that were solid as well. Watch it again ledderman was of a round or 2.. But I can see both men countering the counterer. When pac land jmm lands back. It was a see saw action. When Jmm lands a clean shot pac follose up with a right hook as the exchanges took place. Basically pac hit jmm a lot more and won more rounds.. 7-5. 6-6 draw is fine coz some rounds are debatable. Pac was the aggressor was wild in there but landed more shots. Watch the replay. It didn't look as fancy as jmm, but he did land more bombs. I disagree, I really do, in order for aggression to even be a factor, you have to be in control, Marquez set the tone, he made it his kind of boxing match, Manny did nothing to take control of the fight. Manny was sloppy and wild and did not land more bombs than Marquez, Most of Mannys shots were picked off, Blocked, Parried or slipped. Not saying Manny didnt land anything but he landed very few good solid shots, while Marquez landed at a much higher frequency and they were cleaner more solid shots. First time watching it I had it 8 to 4 Marquez, 2nd and 3rd time 10 to 2 Marquez... Manny did not win that fight

You have to and must be the effective aggressor and Manny was not even close to that, Manny did not land very many clean shots in this fight bro, I think you should watch it again sober, I did, and instead of it bein 8-4 ish 9-3 ish for Marquez it became 10 rounds to 2 for Marquez Who was the ring general? who controlled the type of fight it was? Marquez, who landed the cleaner more effective shots? Marquez did... Who had a better defense? Marquez did he slipped parried, picked, ducked and blocked most of Mannys shots Real talk here. watch it again. When jmm counters pac, they get in a exchange. He gets pac clean but what you guys don't notice pac was about to throw a counter shot as a shot was coming at him. They were exchanging shots. Pac was countering the counter puncher. Everytime pac got hit in the chin pac had a follow up shot coming from the right hook that hit jmm clean as well. Pac was wilder.. Jmm was the more precise but if you add the punches landed per round pac landed more shots per round. It's just that jmm throws more accurately.. But at the end of the day its the number of shots that landed. Pac landed more in the 7 rounds that he won. Jmm did good for 5 rounds.

Poor PAC, he lost to Marquez to gain sympathy from Jinkee :rofl: Jinkee filed annulment case 2 weeks ago :bigeyes:

You have to and must be the effective aggressor and Manny was not even close to that, Manny did not land very many clean shots in this fight bro, I think you should watch it again sober, I did, and instead of it bein 8-4 ish 9-3 ish for Marquez it became 10 rounds to 2 for Marquez Who was the ring general? who controlled the type of fight it was? Marquez, who landed the cleaner more effective shots? Marquez did... Who had a better defense? Marquez did he slipped parried, picked, ducked and blocked most of Mannys shots Real talk here. Pac did land clean shots. But when he did land it was awkwardly thrown. marquez as a master class boxer looks precise showing his punches. Pac was throwing wild shots. He thrown more shots but in those bunches of shots he landed power punches that were solid as well. Watch it again ledderman was of a round or 2.. But I can see both men countering the counterer. When pac land jmm lands back. It was a see saw action. When Jmm lands a clean shot pac follows up with a right hook as the exchanges took place. Basically pac hit jmm a lot more and won more rounds.. 7-5. 6-6 draw is fine coz some rounds are debatable. Pac was the aggressor was wild in there but landed more shots. Watch the replay. It didn't look as fancy as jmm, but he did land more bombs.

I have Pac winning 7-5. It was a back and forth round by round. The 12th round was the deciding factor. Both fighters did not do much until the last minute, Pac attacked and landed punches. That won the round for him. If it was a draw, i have no problem with it. But this is in no way a robbery. Its a closed fight. Seriously Manny Pacquiao is never boo-ed by his own people they never throw water bottles in there, Filipinos never come out and admit that Manny lost the way this went down last night. Wake up man, this was a robbery and I have no idea how you found 7 rounds to give to pac, I had Marquez winning ten rounds there man.

I have Pac winning 7-5. It was a back and forth round by round. The 12th round was the deciding factor. Both fighters did not do much until the last minute, Pac attacked and landed punches. That won the round for him. If it was a draw, i have no problem with it. But this is in no way a robbery. Its a closed fight.

Watch the fight again.. You can see that pac threw more it could have gone 6-6, 7-5 for pac.. but a win for marquez is a gimme for me. A draw would have been likely. Pac was the aggressor and had more rounds. It's just that the rounds marquez won he made pac look real bad. That's what we clearly remember after the fight. The clear crisp counters executed to perfection. But thee truth is pac won 7. Marquez had 5 rounds (full of nice highlight shots from him). That some think marquez won coz the shots we would likely remember are the marquez beautiful counters but as a whole pac was the busier fighter and the one who one more rounds. You have to and must be the effective aggressor and Manny was not even close to that, Manny did not land very many clean shots in this fight bro, I think you should watch it again sober, I did, and instead of it bein 8-4 ish 9-3 ish for Marquez it became 10 rounds to 2 for Marquez Who was the ring general? who controlled the type of fight it was? Marquez, who landed the cleaner more effective shots? Marquez did... Who had a better defense? Marquez did he slipped parried, picked, ducked and blocked most of Mannys shots Real talk here.

Rewatch the fight closley and score it on a round by round basis. Take into consideration Mannys agressiveness and amount of punches landed and it becomes much more closer than you think. I lean towards Marquez winning but i had it 114-114. Watch the fight again.. You can see that pac threw more it could have gone 6-6, 7-5 for pac.. but a win for marquez is a gimme for me. A draw would have been likely. Pac was the aggressor and had more rounds. It's just that the rounds marquez won he made pac look real bad. That's what we clearly remember after the fight. The clear crisp counters executed to perfection. But thee truth is pac won 7. Marquez had 5 rounds (full of nice highlight shots from him). That some think marquez won coz the shots we would likely remember are the marquez beautiful counters but as a whole pac was the busier fighter and the one who one more rounds.

WOW - I've never thought I would every say this to YOU but well... I absolutely agree... This fight wasn't close... like I said before in the first two fights Marquez was the better ring general but Pacquiao landed the harder shots - you can score the way on what you like and prefer in boxing... that's why there are scoring criterias... But the third fight - there is none one scoring criteria that you could give to Pacquiao - how swollen a face is, is not a scoring criteria... CompuBox is not a scoring criteria... everything that happened in the ring happened because Marquez wanted it too or allowed it too (exchanges)... he was the better ring general - he landed cleaner and harder - beautiful mastery of controlling the distance - there is no way you can give Pacquiao more then 4 rounds in this fight - no way whatsoever... At least I can say to you today - you maybe dislike Floyd which is ok... but at least you seem to be a boxing fan and not some blind worshipper sir By the way where is Jack? He was one of the guys who predicted Marquez to win Ring General for sure and last night he was I gave manny round 1 and round 12 there were a couple of close rounds but what swayed them to Marquez was the cleaner shots, along with Marquez working the entire round. Manny looked glove shy, he looked like he didnt have an answer like he couldnt pull the trigger out of fear of being countered from the start of the fight you could see Marquez knew and understood how to fight Pacquiao I too predicted Marquez to win by knock out though, However he made Manny respect him so much that Manny didnt risk going for the big shots which is what I expected Manny to do mid way through the fight. I said this before the fight these two can fight 100 times and you will have the same kind of fight each time its a style thing. I feel horrible for Marquez who worked his ass off only to get robbed by the sport. But at the end of the day Manny has to carry this win with him, he knows he didnt win that fight so do his fans Thanks for the response No I am not a fan boy of any sort, me not liking Mayweather has to do more with his out of ring behavior, than anything he can fight no doubt, but I also do not like fighters who are not active, I hate the retire come back win back the title you vacated thats the easiest way for a fighter to sort of cheat and call themselves a 4 time 5 time or six time world champ its kinda ****ty... However I am not so sure Manny has anything left, to me he looks like he should hang em up he looked that bad last night. Ohh and the swelling the majority of that swelling on Marquez's face came from clashes of heads through out the fight, Manny rarely landed anything clean. Get this if he fights mayweather its not the counter right hand of Floyd that wins it, it will be the left hook, in last nights fight I noticed when Manny is ready to throw a right hook he sticks that elbow out long before he fires the hook you can see that **** all day long...

This fight was NOT close at all I mean not close you can argue that Marquez won 10 of the 12 rounds here I have it 9 rounds to 1 and 2 rounds even give those even rounds to pac so the haters dont hate 9 rounds to 3 Marquez WOW - I've never thought I would every say this to YOU but well... I absolutely agree... This fight wasn't close... like I said before in the first two fights Marquez was the better ring general but Pacquiao landed the harder shots - you can score the way on what you like and prefer in boxing... that's why there are scoring criterias... But the third fight - there is none one scoring criteria that you could give to Pacquiao - how swollen a face is, is not a scoring criteria... CompuBox is not a scoring criteria... everything that happened in the ring happened because Marquez wanted it too or allowed it too (exchanges)... he was the better ring general - he landed cleaner and harder - beautiful mastery of controlling the distance - there is no way you can give Pacquiao more then 4 rounds in this fight - no way whatsoever... At least I can say to you today - you maybe dislike Floyd which is ok... but at least you seem to be a boxing fan and not some blind worshipper sir By the way where is Jack? He was one of the guys who predicted Marquez to win