He his the biggest draw at SMW, he draws 16K+ crowds everytime, so why is he have to come to the US and fight in a venue with 5K+ people for way less money?
I doesnt make sense to me.
And can people STFU already about Butes opposition, every top SMW was tied up to the Super 6 tournament, he fought the best opponents available at the moment.
Considering Bute's got 2M from showtime + gate + overseas television + canadian ppv I must say that I don't think it's a good deal for Pavlik. Do you?
I believe Kessler gets close to 2M for Stieglitz and he got 2½M per s6 fight.
I'd say 4M would be close to what he's worth for Bute. Kessler and Palle made 8½M for Calzaghe (5M for Kessler's purse and 3½M for scandinavian PPV).
You saying this and providing numbers after having claimed that Bute lowballed everyone and it equated to priceing himself out and ducking them shows what a joke you are. There's probably a little room to argue for a little more but to flat out refuse to even negotiate after having been offered a rather reasonable amount of money shows that if anyone is ducking it certianly isn't Bute.
Just wow, ROFLMAO!!
lol After reading Bat's posts these last couple days it seems that he is now offically the Danish version of the poster Domination/Klitshchko2011.
lets make Stieglitz vs Bute in canada Winner gets ward/froch winner in a winner takes all fight :drive:
Steiglitz out right refused to even consider fighting Bute. 100% duck.
Because Bute should have 1 loss to Librado Andrade yet remains undefeated due to poor officiating. People sometimes like to link poor officiating, judging and hometown pressure together. In order to remove all doubts, Bute should at least fight other Super Six contenders and outside his province at least once instead of getting instant shot at S6 winner by beating guys like Andrade in a rematch.
He already beat Andrade KO4. But I do agree he shouldn't be undefeated due to a very long ten count. But still, officially he is undefeated.
Because Bute should have 1 loss to Librado Andrade yet remains undefeated due to poor officiating. People sometimes like to link poor officiating, judging and hometown pressure together. In order to remove all doubts, Bute should at least fight other Super Six contenders and outside his province at least once instead of getting instant shot at S6 winner by beating guys like Andrade in a rematch.
4M??? Calzaghe vs Bute was a HBO PPV fight.
Bute vs Kessler at this point is not an PPV fight that will get carried by any of the Us TV channels.
4mill for Bute 2 1/2 Mills for Kessler, split everything 60-40 for Bute and we have a fight I think!
Why should Bute get more than Kessler when Bute's fighting at home? 60-40 would be reasonable if the visiting fighter got 60%.
He his the biggest draw at SMW, he draws 16K+ crowds everytime, so why is he have to come to the US and fight in a venue with 5K+ people for way less money?
I doesnt make sense to me.
And can people STFU already about Butes opposition, every top SMW was tied up to the Super 6 tournament, he fought the best opponents available at the moment.
You're not really tested, until you're out of your comfort zone. If Bute goes into a fight in Canada, he knows in his head that the opponent HAS to knock him out.
When he starts fighting people anywhere and everywhere like Froch, then i'll give him his props. Till then, i'm a skeptic like everybody else.
I believe Kessler gets close to 2M for Stieglitz and he got 2½M per s6 fight.
I'd say 4M would be close to what he's worth for Bute. Kessler and Palle made 8½M for Calzaghe (5M for Kessler's purse and 3½M for scandinavian PPV).
4M??? Calzaghe vs Bute was a HBO PPV fight.
Bute vs Kessler at this point is not an PPV fight that will get carried by any of the Us TV channels.
4mill for Bute 2 1/2 Mills for Kessler, split everything 60-40 for Bute and we have a fight I think!
Considering Bute's got 2M from showtime + gate + overseas television + canadian ppv I must say that I don't think it's a good deal for Pavlik. Do you?
Pavlik should had accepted the fight. That was major money, for a guy who is a limbo right now. Probabli part of the overseas TV should had gone to him, but other than that, it was a fair deal
WTF you expect Kessler to be offer? 5 million? lol
2 mills for Kessler to fight bute in Canada should be more than enough!!
Bute has not low ball anybody. Its just that fighters think because they are fighting a draw they should get more, when in fact the guy bringing the money is the other fighter. Same **** happends with Khan, since he makes 1mill guarantee in every fight, his opponents think they will get paid,as much or close, just because they are fighting him.
I believe Kessler gets close to 2M for Stieglitz and he got 2½M per s6 fight.
I'd say 4M would be close to what he's worth for Bute. Kessler and Palle made 8½M for Calzaghe (5M for Kessler's purse and 3½M for scandinavian PPV).
Well we know Pavlik was offered 1.3 Million so does that sound like a lowball to you?
Considering Bute's got 2M from showtime + gate + overseas television + canadian ppv I must say that I don't think it's a good deal for Pavlik. Do you?
How is it a duck when you are offered a ridiculously low purse? Does that mean that if Froch offered Bute 1K USD for a fight in Nottingham and Bute refused it is also considered a duck?
There are many ways to say that you don't want a fight. Lowballing is one of them.
WTF you expect Kessler to be offer? 5 million? lol
2 mills for Kessler to fight bute in Canada should be more than enough!!
Bute has not low ball anybody. Its just that fighters think because they are fighting a draw they should get more, when in fact the guy bringing the money is the other fighter. Same **** happends with Khan, since he makes 1mill guarantee in every fight, his opponents think they will get paid,as much or close, just because they are fighting him.
Stieglitz flat out refused to fight Bute so I didn't forget him. The rest claimed lowball.
Well we know Pavlik was offered 1.3 Million so does that sound like a lowball to you?
Thats total bull****!!! Kessler flat out ducked him to go fight a (easy, easy) fight for a title.
Pavlik drunk ass, got offered a good pay day and he wrongly refused it and now is crying to arum to get him a fight.
Stiglietz is no better than Magee
Sartison is another Mcgee level type fighter
The super 6 is tied up, so spare nme the he needs to fight better comp, he has fought whos best available.
Letss see if Kessler or the winner of the super 6 steps up to the plate.
How is it a duck when you are offered a ridiculously low purse? Does that mean that if Froch offered Bute 1K USD for a fight in Nottingham and Bute refused it is also considered a duck?
There are many ways to say that you don't want a fight. Lowballing is one of them.
Bute only has to fight outside Canada if he wants to fight the best. If he wants to continue picking up good money fighting clubfighters he can do that.
To lure one of the big guns to canada, he has to pay big bucks and that has been lacking so far with Sartison, Kessler, Pavlik and Johnson all claiming to have been lowballed.
Thats total bull****!!! Kessler flat out ducked him to go fight a (easy, easy) fight for a title.
Pavlik drunk ass, got offered a good pay day and he wrongly refused it and now is crying to arum to get him a fight.
Stiglietz is no better than Magee
Sartison is another Mcgee level type fighter
The super 6 is tied up, so spare nme the he needs to fight better comp, he has fought whos best available.
Letss see if Kessler or the winner of the super 6 steps up to the plate.
Forgot Steiglitz. Yeah Pavlik being offered 1.3 Million what a lowball offer lol. Martinez just got 1.5 for fighting Barker and 1.2 for Dzinziruk on HBO. How unreasonable for Pavlik.
Stieglitz flat out refused to fight Bute so I didn't forget him. The rest claimed lowball.
Bute only has to fight outside Canada if he wants to fight the best. If he wants to continue picking up good money fighting clubfighters he can do that.
To lure one of the big guns to canada, he has to pay big bucks and that has been lacking so far with Sartison, Kessler, Pavlik and Johnson all claiming to have been lowballed.
Forgot Steiglitz. Yeah Pavlik being offered 1.3 Million what a lowball offer lol. Martinez just got 1.5 for fighting Barker and 1.2 for Dzinziruk on HBO. How unreasonable for Pavlik.
Because most important fights are fought in Las Vegas. You don't see Cotto, Pacquiao,Amir Khan fighting in Miami.
It is either Las Vegas or New York.
You love your car dont you?
Bute only has to fight outside Canada if he wants to fight the best. If he wants to continue picking up good money fighting clubfighters he can do that.
To lure one of the big guns to canada, he has to pay big bucks and that has been lacking so far with Sartison, Kessler, Pavlik and Johnson all claiming to have been lowballed.