HBO officially announces 690K for Mayweather-Ortiz??

HBO OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCES 690K PPV FOR MAYWEATHER VS ORTIZ? Saturday, November 5, 2011 By Don Donatello HBO is a publicly held company. What does that mean? It means anyone can buy a piece or share of HBO stock. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Time Warner Entertainment Company, L.P. A publicly held company is governed by the rules and regulations of the federal agency of the U.S. Securities Exchange Commission (SEC). It holds the primary responsibility for enforcing the federal securities laws and regulating the securities industry, stock and options exchanges, and electronic securities markets in the U.S. The Securities Act of 1933 requires uniform disclosure of information about public securities offerings at the federal level. For more information about the SEC: Link In short, under the rules and regulations of the SEC, HBO cannot engage in fraudulent announcement and manipulation of the performance of their business. Golden Boy Promotions and Top Rank Promotions are privately held company. These companies are not beholden to the rules and regulations of the SEC. While companies who sell ownership shares to the public cannot hype, inflate, and manufacture their performance numbers, it is different for privately owned companies. When HBO performs well in their boxing PPV event, an HBO official will have announced their PPV takes through the biggest sporting news media, ESPN. Mark Taffet or former HBO employee Ross Greenburg are usually the two that will attach their name to a PPV performance release. The article is usually written by ESPN boxing writer Dan Rafael, not some internet boxing sites of blogs. Anything that these boxing sites or blogs release are secondary information that they have picked up from news outlets such as ESPN or Yahoo! Sports. In the aftermath of the HBO PPV event of Manny Pacquiao vs. Antonio Margarito which wold about 1.15 million, the following release of the numbers were attached to HBO Senior Vice President Mark Taffet in which he states, “We’re thrilled with the PPV performance.” Writer is Dan Rafael here is the link to his article: Manny Pacquiao generates another 1 million PPV buys When the Floyd Mayweather vs. Juan Manuel Marquez HBO PPV event garnered 1 million in sales, HBO PPV chief Mark Taffet attached his name to an article about the fight and PPV numbers in an article written by ESPN boxing writer Dan Rafael. Article link: Floyd Mayweather Jr. – Juan Manuel Marquez generated 1 million pay-per-view buys On the Mayweather vs. Oscar De La Hoya fight, “I’m particularly pleased that the fight reached 2.15 million buys on a weekend in which ‘Spider-Man 3′ established a new Hollywood box office record and the Kentucky Derby took place,” HBO PPV’s Mark Taffet said. Ross Greenburg gladly also chimed in with the good news, “De La Hoya vs. Mayweather was a record-setting event from the moment the fight was announced,” said Ross Greenburg, president of HBO Sports. Article link: De La Hoya ‘ecstatic’ that fight was richest ever Being wary about bad financial performances, HBO does not officially attach its’ name to a bad performing PPV boxing events. There is no Dan Rafael article with Greenburg or Taffet about the PPV numbers of the Chad Dawson vs. Bernard Hopkins fight. The only news I found that is spread around is Kevin Iole’s tweet of around 40,000 PPV sold. Neither HBO or Golden Boy Promotions came up with an official release of the PPV numbers. A PPV event that garnered 1.25 million for the Mayweather vs. Ortiz is a huge success. So why is there no official from HBO attaching his name to an official release of the PPV number? Dan Rafael has no interview with Mark Taffet or anyone from HBO to account and take credit for the 1.25 million. Instead, it is only Golden Boy Promotions and Mayweather Promotions who attached their name to the claimed 1.25 million. Article link: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz fight drives more than one million buys Okay, folks, can anyone show me an article where an HBO official attached his name to the 1.25 million PPV sales claim that the Mayweather/Ortiz fight supposedly did? Yeah, I thought not. When PPV numbers are held for around six weeks, it leaves it to suspicion of number crunching and manipulation. In May 5th of 2007, Oscar De La Hoya fought Mayweather for the WBC Light Middleweight title. Four days later, HBO officially released the PPV numbers on that fight. On September 17 of this year, Floyd Mayweather fought and beat Victor Ortiz on an HBO PPV event. The PPV sales were not released until the next month of October 28th. HBO did not make an official release. Golden Boy Promotions released the 1.25 million PPV sold, not HBO. HBO DID NOT OFFICIALLY RELEASE 690K PPV SOLD OR 1.25 MILLION FOR THE MAYWEATHER/ORTIZ FIGHT. Tim Starks of The Queensberry Rules had a good article on the veracity of PPV numbers. He actually called an HBO official to make an official statement on the PPV numbers. That person from HBO refused to make an official statement only to say, “these numbers are indeed accurate.” No name was given and attached to the HBO official who made the statement. HBO’s Mark Taffet officially announced 2.15 million for the Oscar/Mayweather fight, the 1 million for the Marquez/Mayweather fight, and he also happily announced the 850K sold for the Hatton/Mayweather fight. Article link: Mayweather-Hatton pay-per-view a smashing success. So why is HBO not jumping up and down attaching their name to the 1.25 million for the Mayweather/Ortiz fight? Because HBO is a publicly held company. You do the math, folks! Even Stevie Wonder can connect the dots here. Have you noticed that Mayweather is now warming up to a possible fight against Manny Pacquiao? HBO probably showed him the REAL PPV numbers in his fight against Ortiz. Got an Opinion? Submit Your Articles and Press Releases to be posted on NowBoxing.com *Please refrain from leaving any Racist, Profane or Derogatory comments* http://www.nowboxing.com/2011/11/hbo-officially-announces-690k-ppv-for-mayweather-vs-ortiz/21060/

Comments (20)

HBO is a PUBLIC COMPANY (traded in the NY Stock exchange) and is regulated by the SEC under the Sec Act 1933 and Sex Exchange Act 1934. These acts are well known in the financial world. this has been one of the games floyd apologists have been playing for a long time now. it didn't even make one million, uh? where's floyd's split advantage now? :bigeyes:

14y ago

Lineal_Champ

It it aint HBO NUMBERS it aint OFFICIAL ...................................................double post

14y ago

Lineal_Champ

HBO is a PUBLIC COMPANY (traded in the NY Stock exchange) and is regulated by the SEC under the Sec Act 1933 and Sex Exchange Act 1934. These acts are well known in the financial world. It means that every YEAR Time Warner (HBO parent company) has file a 10-k (a report of company's financial statements AUDITED BY INDEPENDENT CPA) and ever QUARTER they must file quarterly statements called 10-Q. SIMILAR reports must be given to SHAREHOLDERS. Needless to say MARK TAFFET (considered an INSIDER) cannot release phony numbers because it could result in an inflated STOCK PRICE. They can be civil and criminally liable for misrepresentation or fraud (includes up to 20 years in prison, fined up to 5 millions dollars, i.e See Martha Stewart) THATS WHY YOU DONT SEE MARK TAFFET ATTACHING HIS NAME TO ANY MAYWEATHER ORTIZ PPV number IF IT AINT HBO IT AINT OFFCIAL GINA ROSS KNOWS I SPEAK DA TRUTH

14y ago

fearlessbong

Now the PPV flaps this time.... Chicken floyd is not the PPV sensation

14y ago

zcm

1 thing i did notice about the article was tht he only gave pac's correct ppv number (margarito 1.15mil) but the 3 ppv numbers he gave 4 mayweather was all wrong mayweather de la hoya the article said 2.15 but it was 2.4 mayweather marquez he said 1mil but it was 1.1 n mayweather hatton he said 850k but it was 925k

14y ago

Eaner0919

who gives a dam about numbers they dont mean crap and fighters nowadays earn way to much to begin with and are not giving the fans what they want weather they make the ppv sales or not. sure they do just you don't care about them doesn't mean they do not mean anything just means you would rather turn a blind eye to it all but make no mistake what you see, or better yet not see, on your TV in terms of boxing is dictated by numbers. you state that boxers earn way too much correct? well wouldn't poor numbers put things in proper perspective for future fights? it's the equivalent of a fighter giving a poor performance in the ring. If numbers wise they do poor there may be more precedent to not be so open to having them on TV again. At the very least it brings down to earth their bargaining power, making negotiations easier or at least fairer you also state we as fans are not getting what we want. Why is that? couldn't it be because of the self inflated worth of some of these fighters keeping fights from happening? again couldn't poor numbers put things into proper perspective with them because now we have actual proof their demands do not match their actual worth yeah yeah I get all you want to see is fights being made but there is a reason why they aren't and just because you turn a blind eye to it doesn't mean it goes away

14y ago

EL_cano

690K is good numbers, why the flomos acting like girls.

14y ago

Eaner0919

I dont really care about the numbers though and anybody who does really should question what they are a fan of, I think its funny though to hear this **** if true but there has been no confirmation from HBO at all so IMO this thread is **** why? I mean I could break down why accurate numbers are vital to the sport, why any number lower than expect for Floyd means something especially in the probability of him and Manny fighting and how this affects even you the non caring fan if you like.

14y ago

JoeMan

This is an embarrassing number for a boxer who is supposed to be the PPV Queen. Makes me wonder if the fight will ever happen now. Arum will be demanding more than 50/50 for sure. This is murder, if Marquez/Pac happens to do more than 1 million. :usa:

14y ago

pacfan0841

I dont really care about the numbers though and anybody who does really should question what they are a fan of, I think its funny though to hear this **** if true but there has been no confirmation from HBO at all so IMO this thread is **** look through my posting history if i gave a crap about this ppv nonsense. it's when dumb floyd apologists who act like they're pbf's personal manager and start demanding bigger split for their boring pu55y idol that gets me. they all base their arguments in this ppv nonsense. doesn't matter whether fans are ripped off or not. funny thing here is when the tables are turned they're the first to ignore it. it's looking like pac/marquez 3 beats the crap out of mayweather/ortiz in the ppv battle. does this mean pac should get the bigger split if the pbf/pac happens? :bigeyes:

14y ago

AFighter4U

I dont really care about the numbers though and anybody who does really should question what they are a fan of, I think its funny though to hear this **** if true but there has been no confirmation from HBO at all so IMO this thread is **** i guess the most discreet thing to do is to comment only after HBO officially releases a number.

14y ago

x3_bazooka_x3

14y ago

pacfan0841

so, mayweather-ortiz didn't even do 700k, huh? anyone from hbo made an effort to correct this figure so far? it must be true, huh? :bigeyes: i just have to bump this thread again for floyd apologists to see and stop this nonsense about purse split issues.

14y ago

LarryX

haters please tell me how you get 78 million from 690k???please let me know

14y ago

Ekscape

Ummm the real number was already posted on boxingscene and ESPN last week 1.25... wtf is this article and who wrote it and are they stupid?

14y ago

The_Big_Dunn

its possible that this fight did around the same as Dawson-Hopkins considering that HBO hasn't released either numbers yet That means the fight would be like almost $1,000 opn ppv. Good work floyd.

14y ago

Check_hooks

its possible that this fight did around the same as Dawson-Hopkins considering that HBO hasn't released either numbers yet

14y ago

4Corners

Why can't people accept that it's 1.25 million PPV's??? HBO and Golden Boy both said a couple weeks after the fight that it's definitely above 1 million, but less than the 1.4 million that Floyd did with Mosley. Than, Golden Boy and Dan Rafael confirm 1.25 million, and people don't buy it. People just LOVE to hate Floyd.

14y ago

p4pchamp8077

cause it grossed 78 million dollars so if it only sold 690 k then it had to cost over 100 dollars right??? but ya'll believe anything reported thats negative concerning floyd that one hell of an expensive PPV :lol1:

14y ago

cisjay

You pactards are truly disguisting. You hate this man so much that you are willing to straight up lie. I'm convinced its a rrace thing. Absolutely. I wish there was a mass ignore button.

14y ago