JMM's S&C coach, former PED-supplier

lolz what a trend the mayweather's started, now everybody is suspected cheating...

Nah...There are other examples...But, truthfully no one gives a ****...The only reason why some fans care is because they're Floyd dickridkers...Now there are a few very small percentage that really do care about PED's and better testing. But, it's a very small percentage. Everyone else is making a big hoopla because they have a horse in the race. But, if this was any other fighter for example AA-Ward no one would care. No one would make a fuss about it. Because, no one truly cares. Because, if they did then they would ask questions about other fighters for example AA-Ward. No one dared and still doesn't dare to ask why didn't Ward-AA have the testing? Some don't even know about that situation...But, yet people want to sit here and say atta boy JMM(like if JMM has been doping before) and act like they're some PED experts. When only a very small percentage know anything about it. Pac dickriders will believe the man is clean, no way he juices. Which is fucking ridiculous to think that. While Floyd dickriders will believe or act like he's the only one...And, will not question anyone else of using... They talk about Pac should have an asterisk. I have only read of Pac having an asterisk but yet no one dares to say SRL should have an asterisk as well or Holyfield or even Oscar De la Hoya. Hell people still brag about Roy Jones as freak of nature amazing specimen and fans(who diss Pac) still won't label Roy with an asterisk...But Pac, oh man....Lets shit on him and only him. But, lets not question anyone else who might be juicing ;) And, act like if we're great fans, true fans. What is ridiculous is to accept something without any proof whatsoever except the rantings of flomos and the Mayweathers. Facts and statistics clearly dispute the so-called "signs" that detractors cite when accusing Pac of PED use: the rapid increase in weight over a period of a few years; the increased KO power at the higher weights; the increase in head size; the accusations that Ariza is/was connected to Trevor Graham or had a shady past with PEDs; etc. Even the accusation that PAC rejected OSDT because he has something to hide is wrong because he had always agreed to any test demanded by Floyd even from the start. First, what Floyd demanded was not even Olympic-style drug testing. Second, they only disagreed with the cut-off dates during the first round of negotiations. Third, Arum and Pac have clearly stated that they are now willing to agree to any testing demands that would come up during future negotiations with Floyd. Painting everyone with the same PED brush is what's ridiculous.

Roach has admitted to having a "don't ask don't tell" policy regarding PED abuse at Wild Card...but saying he supplied them is wrong. Ariza has an affiliation with Trevor Graham and has brought him in as a consultant for Pacquiao's regimen on numerous occasions...the Trevor Graham who is currently serving a lifelong suspension from training olympic athletes due to knowingly doping many athletes. I don't know what the deal is, but often times where there's smoke there's fire. The only consultants that Ariza works with are UCLA nutritionist Teri Tom and dietician Aundrea Macias. The smoke is purely up in your ass.

Furthermore, I feel that almost all commission's testing is a joke! (Victor Conte himself will tell you this much.) In particular, the NSAC's testing procedures! They're almost as bad as MLB circa 2001, FOR GOD'S SAKES. Get real man. We need more stringent testing from Pacquiao all the way on down the scrub fighting at the local gym. This is a combat sport we're talking about here: Athlete's life's are in jeopardy. Now I'm not going to defend my stance any further. If you don't get it from my posts here, and above, I have no time to argue with you. You think I have an agenda, and that's fine. You know why? Because I DO HAVE AN AGENDA. And you know what that agenda is? To rid this sport (that I love) of cheaters like Pacquiao, Mosley, Toney, Jones (although he only did test positive he bought over the counter at a GNC) and any other fraudulent athlete making big bucks BY CHEATING. END OF STORY. Victor Conte thinks the testing that you want Pac to take is a joke as well....So your point? Of course the state commission tests are a joke of course blood testing is a better test...But, don't give me this Conte said crap...Unless you going to take everything he says as gospel when it comes to this. My point is not about the testing...Is about start questioning other fighters if you truly have an agenda of cleaning up the sport that you supposedly love. Question the shit out of Pac by all means. But, do the same to other elite P4P level fighters. LOL @ the bold...No it wasn't over the counter shit that he got busted for. Lets not be stupid or make excuses because we might be a fan of the fighter.

Oh come on man. You keep saying things like "nobody cares", and contradict yourself by saying "only Floyd dickriders care". Which is it? And it's not only Pacman I have a problem with. Shane Mosley, RJJ, SRL, THEY ALL SHOULD HAVE A CLOUD OF DOUBT HELD OVER THEIR HEAD. CRUD, HOLYFIELD TOO! Toney, anyone who has been suspected of cheating, or has been CAUGHT cheating, should always have to prove themselves. Pacquiao has the platform to do this, but repeatedly refuses to do so. Now tell me: Why do you think that is? I didn't contradict myself at all. I said they only care about Pac because they're Floyd dickriders only a small percentage truly cares. After that no one gives a ****...Floyd dickriders who are in every single Pac PED threads have yet to questions such man as Andre Ward on why AA request was a road block that didn't get done. Especially after being so adamant of loving the idea. Didn't Froch also request it? What happen after this? Why no one questions it? Because, no on truly cares. Only reason they question(as if he's the only elite fighter doing it) is because they have a horse in this race. If it was any other horse asking those all these threads wouldn't really exist. To answer your question...Because, he's doping now what? He's the only one juicing? No. Is he the only elite P4P level fighter juicing? No. Is he the only boxing star juicing? Probably not. Is he winning and all his success is all because of his juicing? No. Does he get benefits from juicing of course? Why not question other elite P4P fighters? He's not the only one with a clout. I don't mind anyone questioning the man...Question him all day long. But, don't ignore the suspicion of other fighters. Don't act like he's the only one. Because, as long as you do it proves that you don't really care about this just care cuz' dickriding your fighter.

Trevor Graham is banned from coaching any Olympians...He has been brought in by team Pac on numerous occasions Not this again! :pat: Can you give us any link to any credible source that can show that Pac even knows who Graham is, let alone consulted him? Since when has Pac been a track-and-field athlete?

That last post should tell you that pac fans don't even know about anything lol ariza is a known cheater smh This lie has long been disproved but flomos keep recycling it in the hope that people who don't know any better will believe it and join their bandwagon of PED-wishers. :loser:

Of course he's not. He's just the most obvious example. Sorta' like Barry Bonds in baseball. Nah...There are other examples...But, truthfully no one gives a ****...The only reason why some fans care is because they're Floyd dickridkers...Now there are a few very small percentage that really do care about PED's and better testing. But, it's a very small percentage. Everyone else is making a big hoopla because they have a horse in the race. But, if this was any other fighter for example AA-Ward no one would care. No one would make a fuss about it. Because, no one truly cares. Because, if they did then they would ask questions about other fighters for example AA-Ward. No one dared and still doesn't dare to ask why didn't Ward-AA have the testing? Some don't even know about that situation...But, yet people want to sit here and say atta boy JMM(like if JMM has been doping before) and act like they're some PED experts. When only a very small percentage know anything about it. Pac dickriders will believe the man is clean, no way he juices. Which is fucking ridiculous to think that. While Floyd dickriders will believe or act like he's the only one...And, will not question anyone else of using... They talk about Pac should have an asterisk. I have only read of Pac having an asterisk but yet no one dares to say SRL should have an asterisk as well or Holyfield or even Oscar De la Hoya. Hell people still brag about Roy Jones as freak of nature amazing specimen and fans(who diss Pac) still won't label Roy with an asterisk...But Pac, oh man....Lets shit on him and only him. But, lets not question anyone else who might be juicing ;) And, act like if we're great fans, true fans.

I do find hilarious how most people think that Pac is the only elite fighter using PED's. Like really? Really?

This thread is pathetic. Accusing Marquez of doing Roids, is as pathetic as Accusing Chuck Norris of being gay. maybe he is he loved drinking his own pee, not waste steroid :trink26:

Look Brah, not because your idol refuses to take a drug test, and everybody is suspecting he is on PEDS, means others have the same problem :bottle: Just had to correct you on your false info. No need to get all butthurt, brah.

now its a fair fight

This thread is pathetic. Accusing Marquez of doing Roids, is as pathetic as Accusing Chuck Norris of being gay.

Marquez didn't do osdt when he fought Floyd. Look Brah, not because your idol refuses to take a drug test, and everybody is suspecting he is on PEDS, means others have the same problem :bottle: This thread is pathetic. Accusing Marquez of doing Roids, is as pathetic as Accusing Chuck Norris of being gay.

BULLSH*T. How do you link Victor Conte and this Memo Guy? Pathetic. Marquez is guilty to drink his own pee, that's it. Besides, if you wanna fight Mayweather you gotta take the Test. Which already happened. This thread = FAIL. did everything go over your head? Mayweather (or USADA) didn't test Marquez either, and Marquez wasn't working with this "guy" back then. You do realize there are links posted to the guy you're responding to....you're welcome.

Sure he is Oh he is I know

BULLSH*T. How do you link Victor Conte and this Memo Guy? Pathetic. Marquez is guilty to drink his own pee, that's it. Besides, if you wanna fight Mayweather you gotta take the Test. Which already happened. This thread = FAIL. Marquez didn't do osdt when he fought Floyd.

Pacquiao is juicing. Sure he is

Victor Conte: JM Marquez is working w/ admitted steroid dealer Angel "Memo" Heredia (Hernandez on 24/7). Heredia testfied he supplied PEDs to Marion Jones http://twitter.com/#!/VictorConte http://steroidreport.com/2008/04/12/steroid-source-for-elite-track-athletes-working-with-federal-investigators/ http://www.isteroids.com/blog/tag/angel-%E2%80%98memo%E2%80%99-heredia/ I didn't know that. BULLSH*T. How do you link Victor Conte and this Memo Guy? Pathetic. Marquez is guilty to drink his own pee, that's it. Besides, if you wanna fight Mayweather you gotta take the Test. Which already happened. This thread = FAIL.

Depends Are you a catholic or Are you a Mayweather Pacquiao is juicing.