i get people who say 150 is bull**** and that martinez will be a lesser fighter.
but seriously, i still respect pac if he does it and i for sure want to see it even at 150.
same goes for floyd. i think 154 is the fair fight, but 150 is better than nothing.
This will provide TR good numbers IMO. I mean, if youll put Bradley next after JMM, it'll be good but it will never provide them numbers as big as this fight. hence, profit wise, I think this is twice as better. If they can fight at 150, then there's no reason for this fight not to happen.
Personally, I don't think Manny or Floyd should take up a fight with Martinez. Putting money aside, Martinez is a full-blown middleweight. Floyd is a welterweight and Manny is a junior-welterweight fighting @ welterweight. Even though both fighters have fought in the JMW division, it was one fight respectively and neither fighter weighed in at the JMW limit.
Also, I don't think Martinez should drop down at his age to try and fighter either guy. If he's looking for a big money fight, he should've taken up Pirog in Russia. Would've been his biggest career purse. Just my two cents...
Manny said he is willing to take the fight but he never mentioned 150. The interviewer said it but Manny was responing to 'Will you consider a fight with Sergio Martinez'. I don't think Manny would fight him at 150, he already mentioned he'll fight him if Sergio can make 147 like a week ago..
Pac will come in weighing 144 like he did against Margarito and still beat that ass
Pac should tell him to offer him the same deal he offered Cotto. The one where if Martinez loses he gives his entire purse to Pacquiao. It's only fair since Pac is the one selling 100% of the PPV. I bet Martinez doesn't take that offer considering he doesn't even have the balls to fight Zbik or Pirog
Every tim e a Pactard makes a comment on this board, you demonstrate how little you know about boxing and how gullible you are. You should know by now that Pac doesn't decide who he fights. Arum does! Pac is just a dumb puppet who is thrown a few crumbs by Arum and does whatever he is told. No way Arum is putting Pac in the ring against Martinez at any weight because he knows what would happen. He also won't put him in the ring against Mayweather, unless my prediction that Marquez will knock Pac out on Nov. 12 comes true. Then, Arum will beg Mayweather for a fight with Pac the way Mosley begged Floyd for a fight after Mosley turned the fight down three times.
If Pac is fortunate enough to get another gift decision against Marquez, his next two fights will be against Bradley and Brandon Rios, but Arum will continue to use Mayweather's name to promote Pac by claiming before both fights that he tried to negotiate a fight against Floyd. How do I know this? Because Fight Hype stated as much and FH has been right about everything related to Pacquaio so far.
If this fight happens, and Manny wins, (I also hope Pac finishes Amir next) then for Floyd, all roads lead to Pac. If he cuntinues to duck Pac then he will be branded as the biggest all-time coward of the sport for the years to come.
Pac did say 147, but he also said the weight was negotiable, so if Martinez were to get on the negotiating table he will probably get what he wants, 150 pound catchweight and a huge payday.
i am still against the fight though, id rather see Bradley or Mike Jones fight Pac than a middleweight
That middleweight is about the same size as Margarito.
You'd rather Pac-Jones than Pac-Martinez?
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If either Floyd or Manny fight Sergio, you'll see how slow sergio looks against them.
Sergio will take a beating, his open defense will make him an easy target against speedy accurate fighters.
Pac did say 147, but he also said the weight was negotiable, so if Martinez were to get on the negotiating table he will probably get what he wants, 150 pound catchweight and a huge payday.
i am still against the fight though, id rather see Bradley or Mike Jones fight Pac than a middleweight
Keith Kizer of the Nevada State Athletic Comission should have put all questions to rest, about who was at fault over the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight not happening. This was oly a few weeks ago and the maniac fanatics (fabs) have pushed it out of their minds already, if they ever allowed it to enter.
Kizer said that Pacquiao, Arum, and Golden Balls ALL agreed and accepted the tests that Mayweather wanted, bu that Mayweather never came forward to accept the agreement. He put the onus directly on Mayweather.
That sould be MORE than enough to make EVERYBODY........SHUT UP.....
and turn their cnspiracy lunacies to something else even more important.......
Like.... was "Lydia Pinkham's Medicinal Compound" really as effective as advertised...............
Why do you idiots lie when the facts are out there. Floyd never asked for 100mil even stating this on video.
yup! floyds words dont lie! Pac is Next... after two days, I did not say that! lol
1.Pacquiao fought Cotto with Catchweights
2.Pacquiao fought Margarito with Catchweights
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skipping my points? lol!
1.Pacquiao fought Cotto with Catchweights ==> Ducked by Floyd
2.Pacquiao fought Margarito with Catchweights ==> Ducked by Floyd
3.Mayweather beat De La Hoya at his real weight and De La Hoya was coming off a KO victory against Ricardo Mayorga , De La Hoya finished Mayorga in the 6th round . Pac goes up TWO weight classes while De la Hoya move down ONE weight... And dela Hoya is the one who set the fighting weight. lol!
4.What the hell is this nonsense , Pacquiao beat a Weight Drained Morales in the 2 rematches and he lost against Morales at his real weight . ==> non sense? did you see the video Floyd cheering for PAc on ringside on that fight? lol! weight drained? all their 3 fights are on Super Featherweight so how come Morales is weight drained? lol!
5.Clottey yes Nobody
6. Its Hatton himself who called Mayweather out and Mayweather beat Hatton when he was undefeated , the best fighter in the UK. and where did Floyd drag him? 147 where Hatton is 140lbs lineal champ.
7.Mosley came off a KO victory against Antonio Margarito , Mosley finished Margarito the 9th round , yes the guy you claim Mayweather ducked :lol1: , and Mosley is the one who went in the ring at the end of the Marquez fight to ask Mayweather to fight. ==> did you answer my point? did Mosely came from 1 year and 4 months off? and 38 years old and it showed coz he gas out after 3 rounds. lol!
8.Yes cheating on the Weight , Pacquiao wants to have the Weight , Size and Age advantage , Marquez is 38 years old , Marquez called Pacquiao out for the 3rd fight for years and not only he gets it at 38 years old but he is also in a no win situation wit the Weight. ==> and did you know that after their first fight, Marquez have an offer of around $400K and he turned it down and fought for $25K and he lost? Again, whose the one cheating on weight and ignored the contracted "catchweight" fight? someone asked a lightweight fighter to move to welterweight but still refuse to step on the weighing scale? whose cheating on weight again? lol
When Mayweather fought Marquez , Marquez called Mayweather out , Marquez was number 2 on the Pound for Pound rankings and Mayweather came off a 2 year retirement from boxing , we all know that when a boxer takes a long lay off the boxer can have ring rust and in this case the lay off was 2 years . Now you broiught up long retirement but refuse to accept that Mosely came from long layoff also! see the hypocracy? lol! #2? and what weight class that #2 is? so next opponent of Floyd will be Donaire coz he on top 5 p4p? lol!
9.Im a flomo because Agapito Sanchez vs Pacquiao was a draw ? yes, coz looks like you have no idea what happened on that fight! your worst than flomo... sorry! ahahaha
10. You are crying because Pacquiao lost by knock out , its not Mayweathers fault dont blame him . no, we all accept that PAc have been KO... but did your idol said Pac already beed KOed so no point of fighting him? oops! but last fight of Floyd was been KO just 2 years ago! lol!
And Mayweather fights Victor Ortiz 1 year after Ortiz lost against Maidana ?
What a lying fraud , Oritz fought Maidana in 2009 and Mayweather fought Ortiz in 2011 , Mayweather fought an Ortiz who just became the WBC World Champion . ow, I missed a year! lol! big deal! but how long have PAc been KOed? around 10 years? lol!
11.The same thing. no, we all accept that PAc have been KO... but did your idol said Pac already beed KOed so no point of fighting him? oops! but last fight of Floyd was been KO just 2 years ago! lol!
12.The same thing you are crying because Pacquiao lost against an Erik Morales at his real weight , stop blaming Mayweather for Pacquiaos losses . your excuse that Morales was weight drained and all three fights are on 130lbs? dumb or too stupid? lol
13. Yes the first fight against Castillo was controversial but who cares Mayweather beat Castillo again in the rematch thats why there's Pac vs Marquez III? lol!
Try again flomo... your exposing to entire forum how dumb you are! lol
Ok, so Pacman again does what Floyd does. they're identical. Yeah I'll fight Martinez at 150. Martinez ok, lets do it. Then Pacman say's I'll fight him if he can make 147. Just like Floyd. But no one really cares to point it out about Packy, but they sure want to point it out about Floyd, hmmmmmmmm!!
the hell are you talking about.
the first two pages are all posts biiitching about the catchweight
A Pacfan troll butthurt by the facts , Pacquiaos record is disgusting
Yeah, his record is so disgusting that's why he has legions of fans across the globe and was recipient of the FIGHTER OF THE DECADE award.
Pipe Dream
Martinez can barely make 154 and they're not going to throw Pac in there with a full fledged Middleweight. Fight never happens.
and pac can barely make 147 lbs...