Then go and talk all this sh it about him? I strongly beleive he doesnt want Manny to fight Floyd because Floyd is looking really fast and sharp and strong.
This sucks because it is costing us the paying customers a potential mega fight to see who is really numbe 1 P4P.
What Arum should do, and maybe wash his hands like Pontious Pilate did, as a last ditch effort is to list all of the things Mayweather wants in this fight, glove size, ring size, weight penalty, purse split, last one to be introduced on fight night, OST with a mandatory test on the day of the fight, USADA testing, you name it. Put them on a contract and sign it along with Pac's signature. Give everything what Mayweather wants and see what other excuses Floyd will come up with.
Make the effort for one last time and when Mayweather keeps on behaving like a pu55y, he can then just ignore him and move on.
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weren't those pacquiao's requests?
Whether you feel Floyd is a coward or not, he still beats PEDquiao's ass 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Hell, you Pac-nuthuggers better hope Floyd's a coward, because Manny is going to get embarrassed and broken down technically if they get in the ring. If they never fight you can say forever that Pac would have destroyed Floyd...enjoy that wishful thinking lol. Manny is still technically mediocre at best and his face is about as hard to hit as a barn door. You guys would all know that if Arum actually let him in the ring with someone who isn't old, slow, or damaged goods. Just sit back and watch Manny's face get busted up on Nov 12 yet again because oh yes, Manny will struggle yet again with JMM come November.
WAR Dinamita!
Bob hates Floyd because Floyd got over on Bob, he is down with making Floyd look bad and certainly doesn't want to help him.
People are down with accepting Arum's junk so he will keep spewing it
, people already believe his whole narrative that Floyd is some chump who ducked every Top Rank fighter under the sun so why not just fold Manny into that group instead of taking the actual risk~
Of which there is no point in taking because there is no gain to be had, if Floyd wins or Manny wins, he loses because either Manny rides off into the sunset or is greatly diminished. Why fuck with that when he can easily buffalo fools who are already thinking the way he wants them to~
yup
thats what i said earlier
good post
green for you my friend
Im just really curious to see if I can get some real answers from you all. No finger pointing no name blame crap
just an honest answer to why bob would talk crap about Floyd but want us to believe he has made serious offers to him
thats all
and like i keep saying put it on a contract bobby signed by pac before you present it to floyd
thats how you call floyd out
Bob hates Floyd because Floyd got over on Bob, he is down with making Floyd look bad and certainly doesn't want to help him.
People are down with accepting Arum's junk so he will keep spewing it
, people already believe his whole narrative that Floyd is some chump who ducked every Top Rank fighter under the sun so why not just fold Manny into that group instead of taking the actual risk~
Of which there is no point in taking because there is no gain to be had, if Floyd wins or Manny wins, he loses because either Manny rides off into the sunset or is greatly diminished. Why fuck with that when he can easily buffalo fools who are already thinking the way he wants them to~
Give Floyd an offer he can't refuse and the fight gets made~ Arum continues to give him bullshit offers he will never accepts.
I see you are big believer in past Arum bullshit spin, so why are you asking questions now~
Im just really curious to see if I can get some real answers from you all. No finger pointing no name blame crap
just an honest answer to why bob would talk crap about Floyd but want us to believe he has made serious offers to him
thats all
and like i keep saying put it on a contract bobby signed by pac before you present it to floyd
thats how you call floyd out
i think both fighters want the fight. i dont think arum wants the fight
I agree. F@ck Evil Bob. He knows that at least there is a chance that Manny will lose to Floyd. In his past 5 fights there was maybe a punchers chance. Bob gets off on making $ on both ends. Clottey, Marghacheato, Cotto, Mosley, and JMM where all Top Rank fighters.
Joe my man
you are not getting it
Arum has the power to get a signed contract by manny agreeing to all of floyds diva demands and put him in a corner so to speak and see what floyd has to say
and i bet floyd will come up with some bull sh it and look like a punk but at least there will be physical evidence of it not just he said she said
are you with me on this?
Give Floyd an offer he can't refuse and the fight gets made~ Arum continues to give him bullshit offers he will never accepts.
I see you are big believer in past Arum bullshit spin, so why are you asking questions now~
Floyd is screwing you folks. Arum has nothing to do with Floyd`s fear.
Fear of losing. Time to wake up.
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Joe my man
you are not getting it
Arum has the power to get a signed contract by manny agreeing to all of floyds diva demands and put him in a corner so to speak and see what floyd has to say
and i bet floyd will come up with some bull sh it and look like a punk but at least there will be physical evidence of it not just he said she said
are you with me on this?
But would you rather have 1000 bucks now for one shot or the uncertainty of even getting 1000 bucks in two to three shots later?
This megafight is probably equivalent to three fights for Pac in terms of money. It's the same thing for Arum. The old man will probably announce retirement any time soon and transfer the reins over to his stepson.
You guys defending Floyd is just too much to bear sometimes.
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goodpost however please read my first post
im not defending floyd at all
im specifically talking about Arum and his comments
if you want to talk about floyd and his comments please feel free to start another thread
But would you rather have 1000 bucks now for one shot or the uncertainty of even getting 1000 bucks in two to three shots later?
This megafight is probably equivalent to three fights for Pac in terms of money. It's the same thing with Arum. The old man will probably announce retirement any time soon and transfer the reins over to his stepson.
You guys defending Floyd is just too much to bear sometimes.
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Arum always has an angle and over looking that is letting him get over on you. If you want to play the part of the fool that is on you but don't go around talking down to others~ because you have no place on a pedestal~
Arum has always took the long con approach, he gets his money from nickle and dimming a guy to death in any one fight even a big one he only make so much but over the long term he can bank much more specifically if he doesn't have to work with other promoter or people that actually ask important questions~
Although your statement does make a lot of sence it doesnt apply when you have the biggest name in the sport
especially for Floyd. We as true boxing fans will think more of him if he truly challenges himself and ends up losing however he can no longer market the undefeated record
as for pac bob knows that once he loses he will retire period and focus on his political career. that being said bob doesnt want his biggest cash cow cashing out. He wants to milk the cow for all it can give. Why put Pac in against a serious threat and miss out on the chance to get an easy 10-20mil a year from him
as for me I say make it happen now and if they are competitive then we can see a real trilogy over 18 months and they both make a shi t load of money over it and ride off into the sunset right?
But would you rather have 1000 bucks now for one shot or the uncertainty of even getting 1000 bucks in two to three shots later?
This megafight is probably equivalent to three fights for Pac in terms of money. It's the same thing for Arum. The old man will probably announce retirement any time soon and transfer the reins over to his stepson.
You guys defending Floyd is just too much to bear sometimes.
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Because there is no winning solution for Arum, Arum likes to come out ahead in any scenario and there is literally zero likelihood that he wins.
Manny wins, what is left for him in the sport. Nothing so Arum looses his prized asset for a short term gain~
Floyd wins, the guy he hates most gets minted and all the shit he has talked in the past looks even more foolish than it already does. Plus Manny would be greatly reduced in terms of earning power if he even decides to fight on.
SO Arum claims to want a fight and act as if because people eat his garbage up and love to blame Floyd~ but he doesn't truly want it, only simpletons don't get it
I find it hard to believe some people have this kind of mentality. Why would Arum or any promoter for that matter prevent the biggest money-making fight from happening? Arum stands to make millions in this fight. Assuming that Pac loses, why would you assume that Pac won't make the same money in his previous fights anymore after the fight? After all, being defeated by a guy who is purported to be the best fighter in the world is not that bad, is it?
I just can't understand this mindset. Margarito and Cotto had defeats, yet they're still capable of making big cash out there. Pac losing to Mayweather stops Arum from making any more fights for Pac? How so? Explain that to me.
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Although your statement does make a lot of sence it doesnt apply when you have the biggest name in the sport
especially for Floyd. We as true boxing fans will think more of him if he truly challenges himself and ends up losing however he can no longer market the undefeated record
as for pac bob knows that once he loses he will retire period and focus on his political career. that being said bob doesnt want his biggest cash cow cashing out. He wants to milk the cow for all it can give. Why put Pac in against a serious threat and miss out on the chance to get an easy 10-20mil a year from him
as for me I say make it happen now and if they are competitive then we can see a real trilogy over 18 months and they both make a shi t load of money over it and ride off into the sunset right?
It's easy to twist this sh1t and switch the names and be much truer.
Again this isnt about Floyd its about arums comments
and yes you are right but im not going to point fingers
i just want input on why Arum would make those comments when he is supposedly trying to get a fight with Floyd
Then go and talk all this sh it about him? I strongly beleive he doesnt want Manny to fight Floyd because Floyd is looking really fast and sharp and strong.
This sucks because it is costing us the paying customers a potential mega fight to see who is really numbe 1 P4P.
I find it hard to believe some people have this kind of mentality. Why would Arum or any promoter for that matter prevent the biggest money-making fight from happening? Arum stands to make millions in this fight. Assuming that Pac loses, why would you assume that Pac won't make the same money in his previous fights anymore after the fight? After all, being defeated by a guy who is purported to be the best fighter in the world is not that bad, is it?
I just can't understand this mindset. Margarito and Cotto had defeats, yet they're still capable of making big cash out there. Pac losing to Mayweather stops Arum from making any more fights for Pac? How so? Explain that to me.
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