Who has enough of Hopkins' hype?

Alright alright folks... Let's cool this down a little bit, I don't want to make it sound like a "who hates Hopkins" parade... Anyway I'm not surprised that HBO enjoys so much laying under his cock... Every Hopkins fight fruits milion dollars in payperview/tickets/merchandise money. In the end it's their own "golden calf" and they do their best to promote him. :)

Dawson was clearly too much for Hopkins to bully around. He would have been exposed in a humiliating fashion had it not been for the unexpected incident in the second round.

He is given a pass for fighting dirty, and it didn't start when he got old. A lot of his elite level career he was given a pass for fighting dirty. A headbutt isn't veteran tricks, it's a blatant freaking headbutt.

you must be new around here....around here anyone who isn't enthralled with hopkins overachievements is a hater to the highest degree....be prepared to be placed on nasa000's ignore list...lol That's about the reason why I made this thread: the thing with Hopkins is that he gives the noobs the impression of watching an "old-school fight" (whatever that means), so the all noobs think "wow, old-school is cool... Not like nowadays when I'm a sad, sore loser with no hope. Man, if the old-school was still here, I'd be a superchamp!!" (while I still don't understand what "old-school" is really means... The boxing science is supposed to evolve and get better with time, not to get worse)... So the classic noob/troll starts raging out: " :purity: dude, you hate hopkins? You should have seen what they did in back in the 50's..." So I go: "dude, your dad wasn't even born in the 50's.. What on Earth can you know about boxing schools in the 50's??" And the noob goes: "I know it because Hopkins is old-school, man!! You know? Everything in the old-school was better and, uh... More true!!!" So the only possible answer left is "Shut up, noob." :bottle:

man you really want to get to the top of hopkins fanboys hate list quick huh...lol i've asked the same question a million times, and could never get a straight answer regarding how all of these guys can be in the same weight range in the 90's, yet hopkins doesn't have any of these fighters on his 90's resume...all i got was excuses...most recognizable win against a solid name opponent back then was simon brown, and even brown was a blown up welterweight who had seen better days... hard for me to fathom hopkins having a 20 win defense run with the names mentioned, that he mysteriously sidestepped... Out of the names the poster above mentioned, only two of those fighters fought each other ( Toney and McCallum). Why is Hopkins held to a different standard than those fighters mentioned ?

However I do think he's overrated somewhat in terms of resume at middleweight but 20(?) defenses takes some doing no matter who your fighting. This is a genuine question (not hating) why did he never fight Winky, G-man, Toney, Mike McCallum during his reign at MW? man you really want to get to the top of hopkins fanboys hate list quick huh...lol i've asked the same question a million times, and could never get a straight answer regarding how all of these guys can be in the same weight range in the 90's, yet hopkins doesn't have any of these fighters on his 90's resume...all i got was excuses...most recognizable win against a solid name opponent back then was simon brown, and even brown was a blown up welterweight who had seen better days... hard for me to fathom hopkins having a 20 win defense run with the names mentioned, that he mysteriously sidestepped...

Just like saying that only certified Hopkins' fans are welcomed. Did I miss the "Bernard Hopkins' fan club" sign at the home page? You can give me all the "red K" you like (whatever this red K is), it's just for not being a Hopkins fanatic and wise people will see that. you must be new around here....around here anyone who isn't enthralled with hopkins overachievements is a hater to the highest degree....be prepared to be placed on nasa000's ignore list...lol

As I said, it's a matter of personality. Hopkins is a highly intelligent guy, no doubt about it, most respect to him as due to any multiple world champion anyway... My topic here is that I'm not fed up with mr. Hopkins himself but with the blinded fans that call even his fouls as miracles.

He sure used the headbutt against trinidad everytime trinidad tryed to land that left. Schooling huh?!?

Hopkins is an ATG no doubt. However I do think he's overrated somewhat in terms of resume at middleweight but 20(?) defenses takes some doing no matter who your fighting. This is a genuine question (not hating) why did he never fight Winky, G-man, Toney, Mike McCallum during his reign at MW? His best wins at MW are Joppy, Trinidad and DLH and the latter too are really WW.

I'm hearing what you say dude. Probably get red K from the nuthuggers but f*ck it. He's sh*t to watch. I don't care if he 106 years old. Doesn't make him any more entertaining does it? Well said there, this is what I'm talking about. Sorry if I don't answer all the desperate trolls but I've got a life too. :)

Can't be bothered to debate with this clueless noob who just admitted to judging a fighter based on a few minutes of a fight. The fact he also insults the people that disagree with him was a peach. Have fun guys. Don't rip him too much. Cut it out, b1tch. I didn't say I judged Hopkins by that fight, I said I've seen many other Hopkins' fights. Next time read better the post you're about to answer to. So I didn't judge Hopkins by that single fight. I didn't admit anything, you just imputed me words I didn't say to try and get out of this as a winner. Basically, you're just trying to hide your shame for calling a "notorious slow starter" one who notoriously tries to catch his opponents cold. Is this cool enough as an answer, Hopkins lover?

Sorry but I can't answer to all the desperate trolls that roll around. :) The Dawson fight is not the only Hopkins' fight I've seen, but I've judged what I've seen in those first minutes. I know the regular Hopkins' fan tho: a guy with poor personality who's in awe of Hopkins' flamboyant style and takes all his dirty moves as miracles. P.S. that Hopkins is a slow starter is plain bullsh1t, having seen the fact that he often tries to catch his opponent cold in the first round, as he did against Calzaghe. And ended up losing, but Hopkins' fans still call it a win. :bottle: :bottle: :bottle:

Sorry but I can't answer to all the desperate trolls that roll around. :) The Dawson fight is not the only Hopkins' fight I've seen, but I've judged what I've seen in those first minutes. I know the regular Hopkins' fan tho: a guy with poor personality who's in awe of Hopkins' flamboyant style and takes all his dirty moves as miracles. P.S. that Hopkins is a slow starter is plain bullsh1t, having seen the fact that he often tries to catch his opponent cold in the first round, as he did against Calzaghe. And ended up losing, but Hopkins' fans still call it a win. :D :bottle: I'm hearing what you say dude. Probably get red K from the nuthuggers but f*ck it. He's sh*t to watch. I don't care if he 106 years old. Doesn't make him any more entertaining does it?

n, but I've judged what I've seen in those first minutes. Can't be bothered to debate with this clueless noob who just admitted to judging a fighter based on a few minutes of a fight. The fact he also insults the people that disagree with him was a peach. Have fun guys. Don't rip him too much.

Sorry but I can't answer to all the desperate trolls that roll around. :) The Dawson fight is not the only Hopkins' fight I've seen, but I've judged what I've seen in those first minutes. I know the regular Hopkins' fan tho: a guy with poor personality who's in awe of Hopkins' flamboyant style and takes all his dirty moves as miracles. P.S. that Hopkins is a slow starter is plain bullsh1t, having seen the fact that he often tries to catch his opponent cold in the first round, as he did against Calzaghe. And ended up losing, but Hopkins' fans still call it a win. :D :bottle:

Well I've started my amateur career last year, I've only got one fight in the record, but I'm training for the next one. :) I've started my training for boxing 5 years ago by now. In a wide sense, yes you can call me a newbie. :) Ok well you do know Hopkins is a notorious slow starter right? He spends the first 2 rounds reading what his opponent is trying to do. Pascal beat the sh1t out of him for 2 rounds and even knocked him down twice but once he figured him out we all saw what happened. Watch his fights against Trinidad, Tarver, Pavlik and Pascal and you will see what getting schooled means. Also take in to consideration that most of the time he is nearly 20 years old than his opponents.

You gathered all that from roughly around 5 minutes of fighting, damn, you remind me of my uncle when he's drunk. Knows all about a car just by looking at it!!

You must be new to boxing? Well I've started my amateur career last year, I've only got one fight in the record, but I'm training for the next one. :) I've started my training for boxing 5 years ago by now. In a wide sense, yes you can call me a newbie. :)

Now I don't want this to end up as if I'd called Hopkins a bum... He's a multiple world champion after all, and also did some great wins... The liver uppercut to De La Hoya was genius... The problem with these Golden Boys (De La Hoya, Trinidad, Roy Jones, etc), is that they did nothing but boxing in life since an early age: they've been pampered and treated like superstars since their early teens, and they end up living for boxing... I mean not taking it as a hobby or a job... But making it a reason to survive. They need the approval of the fans not just to work, but to feel strong and good to themselves, they make a personal thing out of it, and they end up drained by every drop of soul by the age of 34... Hopkins instead has a different personal background, which allowed him to take boxing for what it really is (to him): a job. He'd be alright with himself even as a cab driver, he doesn't need the approval of the corwd. This mindset made him last longer than other fighters that were still better than him as boxers, but they were more fragile psychologically.