Which all-time great would you choose to brutally punish Mayweather and give him the beating so many thinks he deserves?
Who would choose to guarantee Floyd is handed a painful crushing defeat that would demoralize and completely humble the brash Mayweather?
Floyd hasn't made 135 for like nearly a decade.
Hearns vs Mayweather at 147 - Hearns likely beats him.
Though my dream/ultimate fantasy fight would be Floyd vs Aaron ''The hawk'' Pryor at 140
A fraud like Tszyu would never beat Mayweather in a million years.
Vitali doesn't have a reach advantage or a better chin the size advantage really isn't very relevant, not to mention the gulf in ability is huge.
45 lbs means something, but i have no idea why it's even being discussed
Benny Leonard
Saddler
Basilio (suprised i only saw him listed once)
SRR
Locche
Duran
SRL
Hearns
Pryor
Tszyu
Pac
A fraud like Tszyu would never beat Mayweather in a million years.
Wtf are you tallking about? All i ever said aboit vit is that he would be the more competiive brother in any era.
You have me confused. That post is waaaaaay out of left field.
Anyway, just for fun.... Floyd would be fighting atg's the same size as him. Vit would have a serious size advantage.
Vitali doesn't have a reach advantage or a better chin the size advantage really isn't very relevant, not to mention the gulf in ability is huge.
your funny man. that's a tough call to make, i really dont think anyone could give mayweather a real beating. the dude has some serious damn skills, i thnk everone can admit that, even if his performances are a little lackluster at times.
but u know the people that could give floyd a run for his money.... ill leave it at that. peace
theres quite a few atg that would beat him but do any of them really brutally punish him? not sure about that one
duran at 135 would get the job done so would hearns at 147 and a few others but would any of them brutally punish him,i doubt it
oh yea no chance tito or koysta beat him even sugar ray lenord would of struggled to beat floyd
it doesnt take an ATG to beat Floyd. There are fighters fighting today who arent or wont be ATGs and they could beat Floyd if he gave them the chance to.
There are people fighting now, who are better than anyone FLoyd has ever faced. Floyd who has has a competent career hasnt fought that great fighters, and anyone who on paper is better than his previous opponents would beat Floyd.
Pac for sure, Sergio and Khan even. Thats just the top of my head.
Sugar Ray Robinson would have beaten Mayweather, as would Sugar Ray Leonard, Duran at 135, Tommy Hearns at any weight, Terry Norris and Pernell Whitaker.
My point seems pretty clear........
My initial post was in response to your reply to Skills Pay Bills.....
Skills clearly pointed out that he didnt have a problem with people saying Duran would beat Mayweather......I guessing you responded to that post because you believe that Duran WOULD have punished Floyd..........you alluded to the fact that Duran was 10 times the monster Floyd is...also asking to name ATG that Floyd had beaten as to why he could have beaten Duran......
My response was simply to compare Vitali with Ali......who has Vitali beaten to be able to hang with Ali....cuz he has not beaten a single HW, right?
My point is you judging a mythical H2H matchup based on who someone has beaten.....Im pretty sure Duran never faced a fighter like Mayweather at 135,
nor did he punish ALL of his 135 comp...........just like Ali has never faced a fighter like Vitali,nor did ALi punish all of his comp in his prime........
To make it clear, Im not saying Floyd would beat Duran.....
You're pretty sure? Floyd never faced anyone like duran im his career, much less at 135. Duran has faced guys with at least atg skills, heart, and toughness at multiple weight classes. Prime guys. I think he's got a better body of work to draw from for an assessment, no?
You're putting words in my mouth again with vit. Go show me when i said anything about ali and vitali.
If floyd weighed 45 lbs more than duran for the fight, perhaps you could
stretch some sort of point.
You're also jumping in late as ive been through this with multiple people in this thread. No one has answered me. And you arent either.
And when did i say floyd wouldnt be competitive? Buchanan was competitive with duran.
Kpb, you need to get your story straight. For the record, floyd would be competiive in any era, obviously.
Yes, but just like you believe that Vitali could hang with any Heavyweight........you completely dismissed Floyds abilities to hang with Duran.........which IMO is wrong.....not that I am saying Floyd would win......
ObViously you're missing the point.
1) vit amd size difference, which you totally ignored.
2) the point is to pick fighters that you think can beat floyd. If it was about specific fighters that i think can beat vit, i would name them.
3) if i did think vit could beat someone i wpuld give evidence to that opinion by naming particular vit fights that pertain to my opinion as well as an accurate description as to why.
You're too simple, your point makes no sense.
That doesnt really make sense......I could use the same analogy for Vitali and Ali.............
WHo has Vitali beaten that makes you think he is ready for a prime Ali............you think Vitali is a beat (I know you do). If so, then Ali is 10x a monster. Look at his career. How many wins over a prime ATG does Vitali have at HW.......
Please dont tell me that Corrie Sanders is an atg......
And i never said vit would beat ali. You need to stop trying to deflect. It's blatent.
Vit fought one atg hw. So tell me what that has to do with floyd's campaign at 135.
That doesnt really make sense......I could use the same analogy for Vitali and Ali.............
WHo has Vitali beaten that makes you think he is ready for a prime Ali............you think Vitali is a beat (I know you do). If so, then Ali is 10x a monster. Look at his career. How many wins over a prime ATG does Vitali have at HW.......
Please dont tell me that Corrie Sanders is an atg......
Wtf are you tallking about? All i ever said aboit vit is that he would be the more competiive brother in any era.
You have me confused. That post is waaaaaay out of left field.
Anyway, just for fun.... Floyd would be fighting atg's the same size as him. Vit would have a serious size advantage.
Again, Pac would beat Floyd, and i want him to try and prove me wrong. Duran and SRL and many other past greats would be expected to beat him in some peoples eyes, but they are long time retired so it will never happen.
Pac can happen and he can prove people wrong. Then Floyd can boast you thought Pac could beat me and you were wrong. So to think SRL or Duran would beat me is wishful thinking.
How does Leonard stopping Hearns make any difference towards Floyd's chances? They don't fight alike, or hold the same advantages over Hearns, or have the same physical attributes, so what's the connection?
I agree, IMHO if i were to chose 1 fighter at 147 who could beat Mayweather it would be Hearns. His style and reach would be able to keep Mayweather in check.
I have absolutely problems whatsoever with you saying Duran would beat Floyd. I am just saying Duran isn't doing any "punishing" to a 135 Floyd Mayweather who was an unadulterated BEAST at that weight. I could see either one winning that bout without any sort of suprise.
Who did floyd fight that would make ou think he's ready for a duran at 135? Serious question....
Who did duran not punish at 135. You think floyd's a beast. If so, then duran is a monster x 10. Look at the guys's career. How many wins over prime atg's does floyd have at 135?
Please dont tell me jlc is an atg.
im not sold on Hearns beating Floyd @ 147 since Sugar Ray was able to stop Hearns. Duran @ 135 would have been a great fight but again not 100% that Duran wins. im going to go out on a limb and say a prime Kostya Tszyu @ 140 would have been interesting.
Floyds chin is not equal to srl' chin. Srl went toe to toe with hearns, not to mention with duran and hagler. Floyd, not so much.
Now way floyd makes it thru that.