Larry Holmes vs. Vitali Klitschko

Easy win for vit Larry style was outdated in 80s with people more advanced at it

First off, watch your b*tch a55 mouth you c*nting wh*re. If you want me to talk to you like your pimp, keep writing this sh*t to me. Lol, tough guy! :lol1:

No, you don't know this guy like I do, he is serious in all the retarded things he says. Barnburner? What I'm saying is that he was joking about Klitschko being decked by a lucky kick (as if a lucky punch isn't a silly concept already) and being completely fine after a spinning kick to the chin

How was it a high risk with Reid? The other guy already said it was a lucky kick and Vitali was able to continue. Plus, it's kickboxing, who really cares? It was 20 years ago too. The hilarious thing is he was satirising what a typical Klitschko nuthugger would say. He wasn't serious.

If tyson who isnt even top 10 was able to stop prime holmes in 4 then I think Vitali who is in the top 4 ATG heavies would stop him in about 2 rounds.

Larry Holmes is one of the fighters I would definitely favor over the Klitschko's H2H and prime for prime. Holmes, as well as Ali, Foreman, Holyfield, Bowe, and Lewis are the guys I'd favor H2H over either Klitschko. What's funny is that Vitali was usually always seen as the better Klitschko, but who has the better wins??? I think Wlad beating David Haye and Chris Byrd are the two best wins on either guys resume. in my experience i've found folks to generally give a greater rating to the resume of wladimir but the nod h2h to vitali i tend to agree with them i think vitali in his prime would knock out his brother. and then he'd have a better resume than his brother. complete speculation, of course. crazy, but that's how i feel about those two in the end what will be remembered is that two brothers ruled (completely dominated, really) the division together. that's pretty damn remarkable. holmes is the #3 HW in my eyes in resume and h2h (behind pre layoff ali and prime louis.)

Lol, okay. He sure wanted a Lennox rematch. Lennox does rematches......when Vitali is not involved........even for 20+ million. Of course he wanted the Lennox rematch. He would have his arsehole ripped open as well as his face to make that payday. But the high risk, low reward Pele Reid was too much for him

The only fighters I honestly believe could have genuinely beaten the Klitschko's prime for prime are Ali, Holmes and Lennox Lewis. I rank Vitali as better than Wladimir no matter what the resume's say. I know he's better and would always beat Wlad. I say each of those fighters could feasably beat prime Wlad 5 out of ten times but lose to prime Vitali 7 or 8 times out of ten. Wlad hits harder and is faster but Vitali is better in every other aspect. I think Vitali is better too, it's just interesting that Wlad has the two best wins. I agree on Ali, Holmes, and Lewis beating them Prime for Prime. Foreman could as well, only the 70's Foreman though. Foreman just stalked his opponent around the ring and Wlad has the power to keep Foreman honest, but I really think Foreman would KO Wlad. Vitali, different story, Vitali vs. Foreman prime for prime would be a GREAT FIGHT. Bowe as well, is pretty underrated, mainly due to avoiding Lennox Lewis. He did beat Holyfield in his prime 2 of 3.

Larry Holmes is one of the fighters I would definitely favor over the Klitschko's H2H and prime for prime. Holmes, as well as Ali, Foreman, Holyfield, Bowe, and Lewis are the guys I'd favor H2H over either Klitschko. What's funny is that Vitali was usually always seen as the better Klitschko, but who has the better wins??? I think Wlad beating David Haye and Chris Byrd are the two best wins on either guys resume.

The only way Holmes would have beaten Vitali is by cuts. No other way would have been feasable in my opinion. And if if were a kickboxing match, Holmes had no prayer whatsoever. What about using the old rules in the underground chamber, hands dipped in glass and what not. As for an actual real fight it could go either way to me, I think Holmes jab would be very effective in disrupting Vitali and set up other stuff but Vitali is tough minded enough to take that fire to get his. Like I said to me it would be an interesting contest, I could see either guy winning.

Tremendous read Barney. Thanks for that. Klitlickers will come up with a new theory to refute that Pele victory. :lol1: What the article doesn't mention is the kick was completely lucky and Vitali was absolutely fine and able to continue.

Oh this is serious alright. It would be an interesting fight Larry Holmes has a great jab and Vitali has quality skills, both are big guys with Vitali having 4 inches in height while Holmes has a couple inches of reach. Even though Vitali is a big guy I don't really think of him as a guy who overly exploits his range which probably benefits him against a guy like Holmes. Holmes is a tough cookie though and if we are talking a prime Holmes he would be very determined to prove himself to get out of the shadow of the previous generation of heavies but I guess Vitali would be pretty deterimed also to erase the memory of the Lewis fight. It would be real hard to predict in a normal boxing contest but in a kickboxing contest that the thread is about I would go with Larry because he is the more grimy guy.

Lol, okay. He sure wanted a Lennox rematch. Lennox does rematches......when Vitali is not involved........even for 20+ million. Shouldn't vitali fight Byrd 1st, then get his rematch with Lennox? Pele, Byrd, Lennox then retire.

I don't know about that but I do know Trevor Berbick would claim he would brake all the ribs in Vitali's body after calling his girlfriend a call girl, then a short while later be crying to the camera saying "everybody saw it Vitali kicked and punched me" Actually on second thought Vitali probably wouldn't do anything about that

The dude looks like a beast to me. Kind of like Overeem. I wonder how he would have done vs. Vitali in a straight up boxing match? Vitali ducked a rematch with Pele just like he did with Chris Byrd. Vitali doesn't do rematches.

Just in case anyone has no clue about the knockout I found this cool article. Tremendous read Barney. Thanks for that. Klitlickers will come up with a new theory to refute that Pele victory. :lol1:

lol jab maybe if they keep sticking up one of these threads every day they'll eventually find someone who u think old Vitali might beat :D Better yet, maybe we'll find someone they think Vitaly would lose to. I doubt it though. The Lewis and Byrd losses don't count, and if he could handle the rest of the murderer's row he faced in his career he would beat every fighter in history! :nana:

The dude looks like a beast to me. Kind of like Overeem. I wonder how he would have done vs. Vitali in a straight up boxing match? He does look like Overeem lol.

Just in case anyone has no clue about the knockout I found this cool article. com There is something of an urban myth going around in boxing about the supposed Vitali Klitschko knockout loss at the hands of a British kickboxer, Pele Reid. It has been the subject of many internet gossipers across the boxing community, and little seems to be known about it, except that Reid was supposed to have KO’d Klitschko in a kickboxing fight many years ago before either became professional boxers. When quizzed about it, WBC Heavyweight Champion Klitschko allegedly asked, “Who’s Pele Reid?”, and when he was reminded that Pele was supposed to have KO’d him in a kickboxing match, Klitschko answered, “It was so long ago that I forgot all about him. I lost that fight because of a kick to the thigh, not because of any punch. Lennox is the biggest puncher in the world and he couldn’t knock me out.” Well it’s time to separate myth from reality and set the record straight. I HAVE SEEN THE FIGHT on video a week or two after it happened, and I also interviewed Pele Reid for a martial arts magazine earlier this year, and he spoke about what happened. So here it is...the TRUE account of what happened, from an eye-witness and from the guy who was in the ring with him. Firstly, a few facts about the fight. It was in Varna, Bulgaria at the WAKO European Kickboxing Championships, 1992, where each member country is allowed to enter a representative fighter. In the +89kgs Light-Contact division (which at this event was fought on a matted area, rather than in a boxing ring), Pele Reid was the Great British representative, while Klitschko was fighting for CIS (Russia). Both were singled out as top seeds immediately because of their sheer size: we all know Klitschko is listed at 6’7” plus, and Reid himself is a perfectly proportioned and muscular 6’4” and 235lbs or more. Reid was initially taken back by the big Ukrainian’s size, and took up the story: “I breezed through the semi-finals, and Klitschko did, too. He happened to walk past me after our matches and I thought, ‘man, this guy’s big!’. Then he looks down at me and smirks like he’s measuring me up. I was like, (sucks teeth) ‘Look at this boy here trying to look at ME!’. He looked at me like he was gonna bust me up and I knew then that I just had to put him down.” Reid and Klitschko met in the finals. After a quiet opening round that saw both taking a good look at what the other had, Klitschko began to open up. The Ukrainian lifted his leg to kick, left it out there for too long (the kickboxing equivalent of pawing with the jab), and Reid saw the opening, connecting with a perfect spinning kick that landed right on the tip of Klitschko’s jaw. The Ukrainian went down, and had it been regular Boxing or Kickboxing rules, there was no way there would have been any kind of ten-count. As it was, being a light-contact match, the ref just waved the fight off and Reid was the new European Champion. With the help of an amateur video recorded by one of the members of the British team, I witnessed the knockout. The picture was perfect and there was no mistaking what had happened...Pele Reid knocked out Vitali Klitschko, not with a kick to the leg, but with a bonafide spinning kick to the jaw. Don’t believe me? I took this excerpt from the January 1993 issue of Martial Arts Illustrated, where a brief mention is given to the fight by writer Peter Lewis: “Our fourth Gold came from Pele Reid when, after some superb fights, he met Klitschko of CIS (Russia) in the finals of the 89 plus category...an opponent even taller than Pele! With little trouble, Pele KO’d the huge Russian in round two with a reverse spinning kick to take the gold.” After several more big medal victories around the world, Reid turned to pro-boxing and ran up a 13 fight knockout streak before losing to British Champion (and Mike Tyson-victim) Julius Francis. Suffering a further knock out loss to Orlin Norris, Reid bowed out with a 16-4-2 (15) record and entered the K-1 Kick/Thai-boxing Arena. Klitschko, as we all know, went on to win the WBC Heavyweight Title given up by Lennox Lewis on his retirement, which he still defends to this day. But next time Vitali talks about never having been knocked out, remember that little-known Pele Reid once achieved what Lennox Lewis couldn’t (albeit with a kick instead of a punch), and flattened the Ukrainian in two rounds. Source: **********.com

He landed 8 more punches for the entire fight, missed FAR more than before or since, was being backed up by a guy with no power and 40lbs lighter who the German crowd was cheering for, and than he quit against the guy who took the fight on 10 days notice. Yeah, he was beating him easily! :lol1: lol jab maybe if they keep sticking up one of these threads every day they'll eventually find someone who u think old Vitali might beat :D