Why is roach downplaying Donaire's accomplishments?

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/198571_10150161936757040_105584362039_8639149_1554686_n.jpg they seem pretty tight here, i really dont get roach's problem

Because Roach is a trainer, he has to see weaknesses in everyone or else he wouldn't be a top trainer, no? His gripe was with Nonito's opponent's trainer's. The left hook shouldnt have been a surprise for Montiel. It should be no surprise for anyone at this point, yet they keep falling for it. Also, if Montiel didnt beat Hasegawa, he was pretty much done. I dont believe he was on anyones P4P during that time either. Suddenly Nonito beats him and gets the #2 P4P nod? That ain't right. IMO Agbeko and Mares and Darch would beat the fight out of Montiel. So Nonito gets credit for beating the least threteniing of those guys AND is leaving the division after his fight with a blown up 5'3 flyweight? MF's like to just assume he will clean out 118. I see no evidence of that. what's your eveidence that fukking mares, who has not done sh1t could compete with montiel?,,,,the boy has'nt beat anyone good convincingly.....also, narvaez is a superflyweight champion so if nonito beats him, it'd be as good as sergo's win over dzinziruk.....the skills that nonito has displayed just makes him stand out among everyone else , basiclly meaning ..there's nonito and there's everyone else at bw....

roach is gonna look likle a fool when nonitl startskickin heads in at the higher weights

The Roach knows that Donaire is a far better Boxer than his money maker and wants to keep Donaire down because at the end He knows that Donaire will be the next money making Philipino.

He called the punches that starched Vic D & Montiel lucky punches? Twice? I think Donaire's the real deal. I also think that if he makes 126 & is strong & healthy, he starches Gamboa's china chinned a$$. Donaire is the truth & Roach needs to recognize!! Because Roach is a trainer, he has to see weaknesses in everyone or else he wouldn't be a top trainer, no? His gripe was with Nonito's opponent's trainer's. The left hook shouldnt have been a surprise for Montiel. It should be no surprise for anyone at this point, yet they keep falling for it. Also, if Montiel didnt beat Hasegawa, he was pretty much done. I dont believe he was on anyones P4P during that time either. Suddenly Nonito beats him and gets the #2 P4P nod? That ain't right. IMO Agbeko and Mares and Darch would beat the fight out of Montiel. So Nonito gets credit for beating the least threteniing of those guys AND is leaving the division after his fight with a blown up 5'3 flyweight? MF's like to just assume he will clean out 118. I see no evidence of that.

More about possible resentment toward Donaire and/or Garcia or that Garcia is the front runner for the TOTY, less about Donaire being a "threat" to a P4P ranking. Donaire threw a subtle shot at Roach by mentioning his choosing Garcia as a trainer (presumably over Roach). Roach would've loved to recruit a fighter the caliber of Donaire, but Garcia was chosen over him.

There. . Thanks bro! and F_ck Roach, as if manny is not doing things over and over he he... but I do somewhat agree with him at FW, imho Nonito should be cautious before moving up, their is at least one great fight at Batam versus winner of mares agbeko and go up a little bit their is Arce...

Crazy to say that the Vic and Montiel KOs were lucky punches but i think people are getting a lil carried away by saying Donaire will move up to 126 and blow Gamboa away.To say Gamboa is china chinned is ridiculous at this stage all off his kds were flash kds becuase off him being overly aggresive.These days Gamboa has become far more balanced in his offense and is a beast i think he beats Nonito

i agree wid you up until the gamboa point. IMO i just feel gamboa is a lil to much for nonito. hey maybe we can find out sooner that later.

Homie you know why. Roach gets away with saying a lot of bullsh1t because of his sickness. Dude is a great trainer(altho I think he is overrated) but people(boxing media) needs to call on his bullsh1t like they do everybody else.

I'm with ya' except I don't have Nonito KOing Gamboa as anywhere near a sure thing. I do, however, think that Donaire/Gamboa is maybe the most exciting matchup that could be made currently. No doubt Roach is a great trainer, but he's become a buffoon in the press in recent years. I think if Donaire makes 126 strong & healthy he smashes Gamboa bro. Now don't get me wrong Gamboa was born extremely gifted with speed & reflex, but he reminds me of Roy. One day someone is gonna touch that chin that he leaves so out there. Then it's a wrap, Donaire can do that. any links to roach downplay of nonito bro? I usually read freddie's down play of Pac's previous/future opponents, the latest one is his branding of bradley as mismatch, but I still have to see his comments on nonito ... I don't know how to do the links stuff,(I'm not that computer litterate). But Fe fist handled that pretty well & I thank him for that. But yes, Roach did try to $hit on Donaire who starched winning champions. Takes a lotta nerve to do that.

do ni reehh is the real deal, roach is just jelly

any links to roach downplay of nonito bro? I usually read freddie's down play of Pac's previous/future opponents, the latest one is his branding of bradley as mismatch, but I still have to see his comments on nonito ... And what his assessment of the other top Filipino fighters? Nonito Donaire, Jr.? For a boxer ranked among the best Pound for Pound and peddled by his handlers as “technically better than Manny Pacquiao,” the world bantamweight champion did not get a rave review from the world’s best trainer. “He is either damn lucky or the cornermen of his last four opponents are just plain dumb. He used that same left hook to knockout Darchinyan, Sidorenko, Marquez and Montiel,” Roach said. Roach said Donaire needs to develop a variety of punches because if he is matched against a thinking boxer who has a good trainer and cornerman, the vaunted left hook could be easily neutralized. Asked about Donaire’s chances if moves up to the featherweight division and fights the big names, Roach said “He does not stand a chance against Gamboa. That Cuban will kill him.” Mercita Gesta? “There’s just too much hype about the boy. He does not have the power and there’s a lot of improvement to be done on his fighting style,” Roach said. Roach said Gesta floats when he throws his punches thus greatly reducing whatever power he has, an observation which was seconded by physical conditioner Alex Ariza, who overheard our discussion about the US-based Filipino lightwelterweight prospect. “I don’t know how they could come up with a story about Gesta “holding his own” in a sparring against Amir Khan at the Gym. He was badly punished in that sparring,” Roach said. http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php...lippine-boxers There. .

:wave: Topic-Roack-Donaire-downplay, thanks. any links to roach downplay of nonito bro? I usually read freddie's down play of Pac's previous/future opponents, the latest one is his branding of bradley as mismatch, but I still have to see his comments on nonito ...

He called the punches that starched Vic D & Montiel lucky punches? Twice? I think Donaire's the real deal. I also think that if he makes 126 & is strong & healthy, he starches Gamboa's china chinned a$$. Donaire is the truth & Roach needs to recognize!! I'm with ya' except I don't have Nonito KOing Gamboa as anywhere near a sure thing. I do, however, think that Donaire/Gamboa is maybe the most exciting matchup that could be made currently. No doubt Roach is a great trainer, but he's become a buffoon in the press in recent years.

you mean like what floyd senior usually do? :wave: Topic-Roack-Donaire-downplay, thanks.

a threat to his gravy train just like martinez theyre both legit p4p #1s both are a threats to p4p rankings but in no way legit p4p#1, not just yet, I have seen how hard it is to climb the top of the p4p ladder with pacquiao and wont just give anyone this status...

Donaire is a beast

a threat to his gravy train just like martinez theyre both legit p4p #1s That's a shame if that's the real reason, instead of downplaying Donaires destruction of legit champions that were winners he should learn from it. Step his game up & make some championship fights. Not defenses against crap, or fat fighters.

He called the punches that starched Vic D & Montiel lucky punches? Twice? I think Donaire's the real deal. I also think that if he makes 126 & is strong & healthy, he starches Gamboa's china chinned a$$. Donaire is the truth & Roach needs to recognize!! a threat to his gravy train just like martinez theyre both legit p4p #1s