David Haye, undisputed Cruiserweight champion and WBA heavyweight champion

:haha: :liar: You're not fooling anybody. :lol1: :rofl: Whatever you want to think Tunney. I'm not claiming to be anything out of the ordinary, but I am a consultant in my field.

I'm actually embarrassed reading Tunney's posts..

No, you're the weak-minded, predictable one. You're opinion is WORTHLESS, yet you named yourself "P4P Opinion" - how ironic. That's kind of like nicknaming a 300 pound man "Tiny". :lol1: Tunney, please stop. You're embarrassing yourself again. In what way am I weak-minded and predictable Tunney? Is it because I break down your posts and make you look a bit silly? It's not my fault that you're immature and incapable of thinking critically. Blame your parents and/or your lack of or bad education. I am actually paid for my opinion, so I can state for a fact that my opinion is not worthless. I mean, granted I'm not paid for my opinions on boxing and I'd like my opinion to be worth a little more (who doesn't want a raise?), but the point stands. Back under the rock boyo.

I'll address them in order: 1. I'll agree that Haye was the "undisputed" cruiserweight champion even though he had only two title fights and never had the IBF title because I'm one of his most naive, silly fanboys. The Ring Title is the same as "undisputed" in my retarded brain. 2. I scored all the rounds for Haye in his fight with Valuev even though he didn't throw hardly anything because I'm a silly Haye fanboy and I WANTED him to win. 3. Everybody else hated the Audley fight, but I loved it! I'm too much in love with Haye to realize he didn't throw in rounds 1 and 2 because he bet on winning in the 3rd, EVEN THOUGH HE SAID AFTER THE FIGHT HE BET ON THE 3RD AND TOLD HIS FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO BET ON A 3RD ROUND KO. 4. I'm the only person who is STUPID enough to believe Haye was really injured in June 2009. Even his other fanboys acknowledge he made up the injury because the TV network went down. I'm the only person who believes he didn't back out of the fight with Vitali, which had already been scheduled by HBO, because he was looking for an easier route to a paper belt. Valuev was a better opponent than Vitali! I'm a fool for Haye. Is this really the best you can do? You could at least try and satirise what I've said rather than inventing content all of your own. Arguing with you just isn't competitive. To put it in a way you'll understand, I'm Vitali Klitschko and you're Kevin Johnson, deluding yourself into thinking you're competitive. Crawl back under your rock now please.

I agree with your last point, but the rest of your post is your usual twisted dribble. I'll address them in order: 1. It's true that Haye was technically not the 'undisputed' champion at cruiserweight, in the sense that he didn't own all four alphabet belts, but Haye owned the only belt that counted for anything in the division (The Ring championship). Haye beat the The Ring champion in Mormeck and then unified against another alphabet holder. To say that Haye ducked Cunningham is ridiculous considering the trouble Haye had in making Cruiserweight towards the end of his time in the division. 2. A gift decision? I'll make this very clear for you - you do not know how to score a boxing fight. Boxing fights are judged based on punches landed (Haye), ring generalship (or who was fighting their fight the most - Haye) and effective aggression (Haye). It wasn't a pretty win and by being so inactive Haye made it unnecessarily close, but Haye was the clear victor. Valuev landed very few punches, of which almost none were clean, was forced to fight Haye's fight all night and was completely ineffective in his aggression. 3. Speculation presented as fact - classic Tunney. 4. Not going to argue with these points in general, but in the case of the cancelled first fight, he got injured when he got injured, so your complaint about giving only two weeks notice is weak. The fact that Wladimir didn't reschedule the bout should be criticised just as much. Consider what you say about the trouble Haye had in making weight in the cruiserweight div. with his announcement yeaterday, trying to boost up how good he was, by saying that he was only a small cruiserweight. I know he has said that he was glad not to have to try to squeeze down into cruiserweight again..... Since we know he's a serial liar we can only shrug. BUT.... the facts are that he actually was NOT undisputed cruiserweight champ, but was a large cruiserweight. Haye's schtik is that he confuses everybody....... including himself. As a "boxer" and "sportsman" he is less than useless, and his heavyweight "defences" are beyond pathetic, not to be mentioned in the same sentence as "boxing".

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I'll address them in order: 1. I'll agree that Haye was the "undisputed" cruiserweight champion even though he had only two title fights and never had the IBF title because I'm one of his most naive, silly fanboys. The Ring Title is the same as "undisputed" in my retarded brain. 2. I scored all the rounds for Haye in his fight with Valuev even though he didn't throw hardly anything because I'm a silly Haye fanboy and I WANTED him to win. 3. Everybody else hated the Audley fight, but I loved it! I'm too much in love with Haye to realize he didn't throw in rounds 1 and 2 because he bet on winning in the 3rd, EVEN THOUGH HE SAID AFTER THE FIGHT HE BET ON THE 3RD AND TOLD HIS FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO BET ON A 3RD ROUND KO. 4. I'm the only person who is STUPID enough to believe Haye was really injured in June 2009. Even his other fanboys acknowledge he made up the injury because the TV network went down. I'm the only person who believes he didn't back out of the fight with Vitali, which had already been scheduled by HBO, because he was looking for an easier route to a paper belt. Valuev was a better opponent than Vitali! I'm a fool for Haye. Is this really the best you can do? You could at least try and satirise what I've said rather than inventing content all of your own. Crawl back under your rock now please.

LOL , the only fight he's been beaten by the better man is the Wlad fight. Wlad was far too good for him. He beat Valuev fair and square, how does Valuev have a case, he didn't land a glove on Haye. Anyone that thinks Haye should open up against someone like Valuev is just utterly clueless, the man was a beast. Any half decent fighter could have landed many punches on a slow-as-molasses Valuev. His reaction time was dreadful.

And you didn't edit that no? Grow up child.. that's just sad tunney.... That edit was a very good reply. Tunney is lame. It wasn't even funny, you're boring. You really are rather pathetic.... Sad lonely little man..

It wasn't even funny, you're boring.

Tunney is lame. But half the shiit he said was fairly true.

that's just sad tunney....

How was this a constructive post? And you didn't edit that no? Grow up child..

You're an idiot. Typical gay Tunney reply to a constructive post

The only reason Cunnigham had a belt is because they stripped Bell before his rematch with Mormeck, which Mormeck won. Mormeck and Bell unified 3 belts at Cruiser. Haye beat Mormeck. He beat Maccarinelli for the other belt. Undisputed.

David Haye was never the undisputed cruiserweight champion. He was only in TWO cruiserweight title fights, and he ducked Steve Cunningham. He received a gift decision in the Valuev fight, despite setting a record for fewest punches thrown in a 12 round fight. He didn't throw a single punch in the first round of his PPV fight with Audley, because he bet on a round 3 KO. He bragged about how he was going to KO Wlad, then cancelled the first fight with two weeks notice. He said he'd fight Vitali, then backed out. Then he finally fought Wlad, and hardly threw a punch - and then made the excuse of a broken little toe. Only a fool would miss David Haye. I agree with your last point, but the rest of your post is your usual twisted dribble. I'll address them in order: 1. It's true that Haye was technically not the 'undisputed' champion at cruiserweight, in the sense that he didn't own all four alphabet belts, but Haye owned the only belt that counted for anything in the division (The Ring championship). Haye beat the The Ring champion in Mormeck and then unified against another alphabet holder. To say that Haye ducked Cunningham is ridiculous considering the trouble Haye had in making Cruiserweight towards the end of his time in the division. 2. A gift decision? I'll make this very clear for you - you do not know how to score a boxing fight. Boxing fights are judged based on punches landed (Haye), ring generalship (or who was fighting their fight the most - Haye) and effective aggression (Haye). It wasn't a pretty win and by being so inactive Haye made it unnecessarily close, but Haye was the clear victor. Valuev landed very few punches, of which almost none were clean, was forced to fight Haye's fight all night and was completely ineffective in his aggression. 3. Speculation presented as fact - classic Tunney. 4. Not going to argue with these points in general, but in the case of the cancelled first fight, he got injured when he got injured, so your complaint about giving only two weeks notice is weak. The fact that Wladimir didn't reschedule the bout should be criticised just as much.

Haye has enough money to fund a lavish lifestyle from now to old age no doubt. Valuev, Harrison and Wlad must have made him over ten million net.

David Haye was never the undisputed cruiserweight champion. He was only in TWO cruiserweight title fights, and he ducked Steve Cunningham. He received a gift decision in the Valuev fight, despite setting a record for fewest punches thrown in a 12 round fight. He didn't throw a single punch in the first round of his PPV fight with Audley, because he bet on a round 3 KO. He bragged about how he was going to KO Wlad, then cancelled the first fight with two weeks notice. He said he'd fight Vitali, then backed out. Then he finally fought Wlad, and hardly threw a punch - and then made the excuse of a broken little toe. Only a fool would miss David Haye. LOL , the only fight he's been beaten by the better man is the Wlad fight. Wlad was far too good for him. He beat Valuev fair and square, how does Valuev have a case, he didn't land a glove on Haye. Anyone that thinks Haye should open up against someone like Valuev is just utterly clueless, the man was a beast.

Only a fool would believe Haye is actually retiring today. It's just mind games to force Vitali into talks.

I have extreme doubts boxing will miss this dude. He'll be remembered by not showing up in the biggest fight of his career.