When it comes to NOT SELLING fights.....
If you look at the PPV selling list from recent years you can see that floyd has never provided such a low PPV number ..
03/13/2010 Manny Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey Pacquiao wins by UD (119-109, 119-109, 120-108) 700,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay-per-view
yep numbers don't lie mayweathers 850 000 beat his 700 000 lol
are the rest of you 5000+ posts also antagonistic attention seeking drivel? You clearly posted this playground rant in an attempt to annoy fans of Manny.
I do wish people like you would grow up.
If I wanted to annoy the fans of manny I would create a thread every single day..this is the only thread I made about pacquiao or mayweather..and read through my posts..everything I said it's true..it might sound like a joke but the stuff I say it's mostly stuff arum and pac have said..I'm just repeating them because pac fans seem to forget how arum does his match making.
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well indeed those numbers dont lie, but when you take into account that Manny isnt an American, and Mosely/DLH aside none of his opponents above were either, then i would say Manny is, on honest reflection, a much bigger draw, not to mention a global sporting icon.
Oh and a FAR nicer chap
Well if that's the case if he's a global sporting icon why isn't he beating floyd with the numbers then?? lol
Why only 700k against clottey??
The thing is people say floyd is American he's meant to sell more PPV's but at the same time they claim that Americans hate floyd and that no one likes him and that pac is the peoples champ..that contradicts itself don't you think??
And why do you think he's a nice chap???
He cheated on his wife..he blamed his shoes on a loss..he gambles..his bad English and him singing songs can't fool me..he's just another human being who hates to lose and who loves to make excuses after he loses..he proved that already..so buy all the humble congressman hype..
And why doesn't mr congressman feel bad taking money from his own pinoys?? He already in talk to fight bradley after jmm..no talk and mentioning about floyd..nor from pac or arum...that's how much he likes his fans huh?? lol
No matter how you look at it 19 and 18 days aren't equal to 14. I say it AGAIN Arum & Pacman ALREADY agreed on this random blood testing. Floydie simply isn't interested in fighting Pacman.Is he SCARED? It's his turn to take the Test by fighting Pacman! Show his defensive genius by fighting The Fighter of the Decade and the current #1 PFP! That's all the boxing wants.
How is floyd not interested in this fight?? Please put down all the points which make you believe that...
I'm gonna start putting down things which I think that pac is not interested in the fight...
First he said he was scared of needles...( a funny lie )
Then the 3 week gap,2 week gap,3 days gap.
Then no gap at all..he said he wants the test..
Then arum came out saying no pac won't do the test with USADA..
Suddenly Usada is a problem??
Then what about pac asking floyd for a 10 million dollar penalty?? (To which floyd agreed to)
Then arum already lining up fights..after jmm he wants pac vs bradley?? what happened to trying to make pac vs floyd??
Then if pac wanted to prove us all how bad he wants floyd..do you think he would file the lawsuit??
The truth is the only place pac wants to fight floyd is the courtroom..and the other thing is you pac fans believe everything arum is telling you..now you get to see jmm vs pac at catch weight and another top rank vs top rank fight when pac faces bradley..
which means =
pac fans lose again..and have fun paying for those fights.
wrong..that statement right there is not true..they didn't give mosley and floyd 18 or 19 days..it just happened to be 18 days...do you understand?? It could of been 19 days..23 days or just 2 days..that's the thing..they don't tell you when they gonna come..if floyd fights pacquiao they might come 19 days before the fight too or maybe on the same day of the fight..who knows?? That's why it's called a random blood test.
No matter how you look at it 19 and 18 days aren't equal to 14. I say it AGAIN Arum & Pacman ALREADY agreed on this random blood testing. Floydie simply isn't interested in fighting Pacman.Is he SCARED? It's his turn to take the Test by fighting Pacman! Show his defensive genius by fighting The Fighter of the Decade and the current #1 PFP! That's all the boxing wants.
Come on. that steroid issue is already done, arum and pacman already agreed.
in the past they want pacman 14 days; while they allow mosley 18 days and floydie 19 days! is that fair? anyway its all done. but weather changed, mayweather changed his mind and said he does not need Pacquiao! so, you see you got to check his mind set, that's the REAL PROBLEM.Browse the youtube and there are a lot of them saying Floydie is scared of Pacman...
wrong..that statement right there is not true..they didn't give mosley and floyd 18 or 19 days..it just happened to be 18 days...do you understand?? It could of been 19 days..23 days or just 2 days..that's the thing..they don't tell you when they gonna come..if floyd fights pacquiao they might come 19 days before the fight too or maybe on the same day of the fight..who knows?? That's why it's called a random blood test.
When you sell 700k like pac that's when you know that he PPV numbers went down...and that's right it's not all about money it's about being remembered as the guy who said he was scared of needles then I need a 3 week gap..then I need a 2 week gap and then I need a 3 day gap then I dont need a gap then i dont trust the USADA guy..that surely is a humble fighter who would and could never lie to his fans :lol1:
but 700 k common man lol
Come on. that steroid issue is already done, arum and pacman already agreed.
in the past they want pacman 14 days; while they allow mosley 18 days and floydie 19 days! is that fair? anyway its all done. but weather changed, mayweather changed his mind and said he does not need Pacquiao! so, you see you got to check his mind set, that's the REAL PROBLEM.Browse the youtube and there are a lot of them saying Floydie is scared of Pacman...
Arums' got Pac by the balls, he's been exploiting him for years. Pac doesn't realize it cause he's naive and innocent. Even as Arum screws him Pac keeps smiling.
On one hand that's true on the other hand he did pac a favor so he really deserves the 30%
Remember pac and his old fights?? Every fight was hard..he came out damaged ..he fought jmm at a good weight and both times he received a big beating..so did jmm but at least pac had to fight...and after the second jmm fight even the commentators said pac has been getting hit a lot and it looks like it's time to hang the gloves...
Then all of a sudden pac went up in weight and all those people who had to face him had to lose weight..what a brilliant idea..just remember de la hoya..came in half dead....so arum had a plan...make pacquiao a cash cow because he knows he has lot's of followers and as long as he wins who cares how the opponent looks ...
So arum gave him plenty of people who came in weight drained and people as stated by roach who couldn't pull the trigger anymore...all of a sudden he was a star..and people forgot fast about the pacquiao who blamed his shoes on the loss to morales..
So a guy who received more beating in his two fights against jmm than in his last 6 or 7 fights..there is something wrong..something is not right...
And now the revenge against jmm...yes at a catch weight....
Arum did pac a big favor..he deserves the 30% but still not good because he's robbing pacquiao fans of their money...I don't feel sorry for these pactards but there is plenty of pinoys who work hard and who dont troll on boxingscene..they dont really watch it because they like boxing they watch it because pac is one of their own..he's an icon.
Arums' got Pac by the balls, he's been exploiting him for years. Pac doesn't realize it cause he's naive and innocent. Even as Arum screws him Pac keeps smiling.
Oh damnn. Never thought of it that way, so basically if two fighters go at it, both signed with him, Arum is taking at minimum 50pct lol, what a greaseball.
That's right man..just look at all the other fights cotto vs margarito...top rank vs top rank..then pac vs bradley..again top rank vs top rank...how much money does he make??? And still taking 30% of pac?? Pac fans really love arum..I just don't understand why..if pac was his own boss like floyd he could keep most of his cash and help more people in his native country.
edit: oh shiiiitttttt jean manueal marquez is a top rank fighter too lol...I think he was with golden boy ...now he's top rank too ..well guess what next pac fight against jmm is top rank vs top rank too :rofl:
http://www.toprank.com/Fighters.dbml
But see, it won't look good for Floydie if Pacman outsells him in PPV this year,
He will look totally DETRONED as PPV KING!
It's not all about money, see what happened to the apple CEO he 's got a lot of money but his money wasn't able to save him from cancer/sickness.
Floydie got a problem with his attitude, this I think was the reason why his PPV went down....
When you sell 700k like pac that's when you know that he PPV numbers went down...and that's right it's not all about money it's about being remembered as the guy who said he was scared of needles then I need a 3 week gap..then I need a 2 week gap and then I need a 3 day gap then I dont need a gap then i dont trust the USADA guy..that surely is a humble fighter who would and could never lie to his fans :lol1:
but 700 k common man lol
That's the thing he can sell 2 million in his next fight he will still walk out with less money than floyd ...at the end of the day floyd walks out with 100%..while pac won't make half as much as floyd...the thing here is pac fans try to give floyd sh** but they don't look at it the proper way..who walks out with the bigger check???
Pac can sell more (which he doesn't) he still has to give most of it to top rank..we all know about his financial problems.
But see, it won't look good for Floydie if Pacman outsells him in PPV this year,
He will look totally DETRONED as PPV KING!
It's not all about money, see what happened to the apple CEO he 's got a lot of money but his money wasn't able to save him from cancer/sickness.
Floydie got a problem with his attitude, this I think was the reason why his PPV went down....
That's the thing..the time won't come..bob arum has plenty of fights lined up for him....there is no way he would let pac lose to floyd..remember what he once said? Mayweather is the greatest fighter he has promoted!!! He can provide pac with plenty of fights which he is guaranteed to win ...just look at how easy he bought of bradley..bradley is a top rank boy now...top rank vs top rank = top rank bob arum wins again ...and even tho all the money stays in the top rank house he still has the nerves to take 30% of pacs salary lol
Oh damnn. Never thought of it that way, so basically if two fighters go at it, both signed with him, Arum is taking at minimum 50pct lol, what a greaseball.
Nicely put. I think its fair to say if the time comes and Floyd whips Pac, there will be excuses on top of more.
That's the thing..the time won't come..bob arum has plenty of fights lined up for him....there is no way he would let pac lose to floyd..remember what he once said? Mayweather is the greatest fighter he has promoted!!! He can provide pac with plenty of fights which he is guaranteed to win ...just look at how easy he bought of bradley..bradley is a top rank boy now...top rank vs top rank = top rank bob arum wins again ...and even tho all the money stays in the top rank house he still has the nerves to take 30% of pacs salary lol
The ones replying to this thread care...as you can see pac fans have been trying to diss mayweather for the last few days because he has "only" made 850k..when they did that I didn't see your ass come in and tell them off..I think you want to be on their good side..huh habib??
It's easy to be entertaining when your promoters gives you a nice catch weight fight ..that's what he's been fed with for the last few years...why didn't he look so entertaining against old mosley??? Because mosley knew how to throw the jab something the other losers he fought didn't know.
And who gives a F*** if pac is American or not..don't his fans claim he's more loved by the Americans than floyd plus all the mexicans who love him?? Mr humble congressman loved by everyone but still makes less numbers..
Do you really care or did you just come in to back up the pac crew because you might be presented with a nice green k habib??
Nicely put. I think its fair to say if the time comes and Floyd whips Pac, there will be excuses on top of more.
What if the Pacman vs Marquez fight has HIGHER PPV than the Floydie vs Ortiz?
Past PPV Results are HISTORY;
The present is what counts the most, on who's winning as well as, satisfying the Fans!
That's the thing he can sell 2 million in his next fight he will still walk out with less money than floyd ...at the end of the day floyd walks out with 100%..while pac won't make half as much as floyd...the thing here is pac fans try to give floyd sh** but they don't look at it the proper way..who walks out with the bigger check???
Pac can sell more (which he doesn't) he still has to give most of it to top rank..we all know about his financial problems.
I hate when people hear something and just repeat it as if they thought of it...or know about it....
You sound like your trying to be mayweather
Who the fk cares whether mayweather has made more money or not....
Pacquiao is 10 times more entertaining.... end of
If Pac was American....he would be selling more than Oscar De La Hoya
The ones replying to this thread care...as you can see pac fans have been trying to diss mayweather for the last few days because he has "only" made 850k..when they did that I didn't see your ass come in and tell them off..I think you want to be on their good side..huh habib??
It's easy to be entertaining when your promoters gives you a nice catch weight fight ..that's what he's been fed with for the last few years...why didn't he look so entertaining against old mosley??? Because mosley knew how to throw the jab something the other losers he fought didn't know.
And who gives a F*** if pac is American or not..don't his fans claim he's more loved by the Americans than floyd plus all the mexicans who love him?? Mr humble congressman loved by everyone but still makes less numbers..
Do you really care or did you just come in to back up the pac crew because you might be presented with a nice green k habib??
What if the Pacman vs Marquez fight has HIGHER PPV than the Floydie vs Ortiz?
Past PPV Results are HISTORY;
The present is what counts the most, on who's winning as well as, satisfying the Fans!
Because pacquiao had more fights....
But that makes it even worse because even tho he had more fights..at the end mayweather made more money...pacquiao has a boss ..mayweather doesn't..what mayweather makes goes into his pocket...
I hate when people hear something and just repeat it as if they thought of it...or know about it....
You sound like your trying to be mayweather
Who the fk cares whether mayweather has made more money or not....
Pacquiao is 10 times more entertaining.... end of
If Pac was American....he would be selling more than Oscar De La Hoya
floyds 850k is a sucker punch straight to the balls from the self proclaimed cash cow king. GBP an HBO are really scratching there heads now. lol
700k against clottey??? and then he had to give up 30% ?? pac is really getting ripped off lol
floyd is his own boss he gets 100%...he's no ones b1tch....
pac is so scared of arum that he has to lie about having fears of needles :nana: