Hhow could anyone route/back margarito???

What pisses me off is that so many people criticize Margarito. But, no one made a peep about CSAC and how they handled it? The wraps were signed off already. By who? Is a question that no fan asked, why? How incompetent is the CSAC? Everybody focused so much on Marg and Capetillo but ignore the CSAC and the person who signed off on the wraps. I never understood that. From my knowledge the dude never got fired or suspended or anything, why? ring just had an article where they said the native americans were gonna join forces in cali and make theyre own commission in cali to straighten out all the bad decisions and bs. hope it happens.

Here is a link to the Minutes of the CAC for February 10, 2009. http://www.dca.ca.gov/csac/about_us/meetings/20090210_minutes.pdf It is very clear that everyone said that they try to use illegal hand wraps. Margarito say he did not know of any wrong doing. However, Capetillo did admitted. So please, stop with the issue. The DA did her job. They cant do anything else because he did not use it in the fight. If he had used it, and then found, he will be in prison right now. The guy trying to change the facts in his own words mentioning the DA and all that lab results needs to stop and do a better research.

It's funny how there's one or two dudes trying to defend Margarito. The guy's a cheater who got caught and should have been banned for life. I wonder how much money Bob Arum had to pay to allow this cheater to continue in the sport.

If that DVD is a follow up copy, than it was deleted. But if you can get the original version, you'll see the fiasco that happened before the fight. and the fact that Margo's orbital bone was broken and his face was swollen like never before, proves that Pac had Illegal Loaded Gloves. it is the full live broadcast as it happend, and I do see the fiasco but it was not in regards to plaster paris Garcia went to the commissoner and asked them to review the wraps he wanted them rewrapped because they had agreed on no ridges. Roach was there at the same time demanding a drug test, the commisson told both to stop playing mind games and let the fight go on. if Manny got away with using plaster in his wraps, dont blame them, blame Garcia, its his job to ensure his fighters saftey. if I beleived there was plaster paris in a fighters wraps and the commission didnt allow me to have them inspected, my fighter would have never walked to the ring period.

you misunderstood. at the time of the fight, before the fight Margo drank that powdered liquid in front of Roach, and didnt tell Roach what it really was, cause he was playing mind games, since Roach refused to have Pac re-wrapp his hands. Robert garcis did see team Pac place inserts and demanded them to be rewrapped, but the refused. There was a fiasco in that locker room, so DelaHoya had a planned concert to "buy time" cause he knew there would be controversy, cause it was DelaHoya that instigated that Pac use illegal plaster inserts, cause DelaHoya hates Margarito. when they came back to the dressing room, they changed the subject, and now "claimed" that the ridges on Pac's wraps were abnormal, but what they were doing is , shifting the attention from Pac illegal inserts to: "ridges on the side". It was mind games that they played with the public, and you're buying into it. Bottom line, Pac had illegal loaded gloves, in a FIXED FIGHT, with the use of PED's. 3 Travesties, in one. I am not in a position to say anything of that matter, becuase I simply do not know. I have no idea about this concert you speak of I have no idea of the plaster inserts none of that, I have the full card on DVD, and this is all I saw. I can not confirm nor deny your story but I will be honest it doesnt sound legit. Can you please provide us with further evidence to support your story?

Pac had Illegal Loaded Gloves in the Margarito fight. Pac had Illegal Plaster of Paris Inserts. Before the fight Margo's trainer-Robert Garcia complained to Texas officials that he wanted Pac's re-wrapped cause he saw them place inserts in Pac's wraps, but the Texas officials (at DelaHoya's premidated order) refused. Thats why Margo drank that powdered liquid cause he was countering mind games, since Pac would not re-wrap. Margo had agreed to "throw" the fight so he can get re-licensed, but he alsio had to endure Pac's Illegal loaded gloves, and this , while Pac was "juiced up" with the illegal stamina booster-EPO, A-Side Meth, Steroids, and other PED's. Margarito had to put up with lots of bullshiitt: a.) "lay down/throw the fight" with Pac in a FIXED FIGHT, so he can get re-licensed. b.) endure the fight with Pac being on any EPO, Steroids, PED's c.) endure Pac's Illegal Loaded Gloves. You are wrong kid, Margarito had two cups of coffee it was discussed just before the ring walk, the powder substance was sweatner for the coffee not Hydroxicut. The wraps Manny had was not plaster paris, they were illegal though, he had his wraps well what we called stacking. Tape, then gauze then tape and high knuckle ridges which Roach complained about Oscar using them and labled them illegal... Andre Wards trainer caught Kessler doing this and they had to re wrap. http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z466/Baz00ka1/1.jpg http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z466/Baz00ka1/3.jpg http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z466/Baz00ka1/2.jpg

If it's any consolation, he's done beating top fighters, not to mention he was overrated as hell to begin with. I do in fact take a lot of consolation in that.

Heres a thought, Maybe Margarito is telling the truth? how does that ring your bell? I mean how would you feel if someone was accusing you of something like this and you knew deep down inside that you didnt do or attempt to do anything? Would you still show remorse? or would you feel as if the system is trying to **** you? its that simple, if he didnt do anything wrong why should he say he is sorry? I mean the cold hard reality is, we can only go by what the lab results show, we can only go by the actions or lack there of, by the DA. I give him the benifit of the doubt, because I am a firm beleiver in 2nd chances in life... So is Larry2011. so is B Hop etc... the man was punished justice has been served, I can not say he tried to use plaster paris because that hasnt been proven so I wont say that. What I will say is he broke the rules, that state your to use fresh gauze only... and he was punished for it. Thats the most I can accuse him of until proven with out a doubt other wise. There was an action that took place though he got his license revoked and they would not just do that because that is the most serious thing they could do Just because the DA didn't feel like taking the case is not all that meaningful, Mosley didn't get his face beat in he probably figured lets use our limited resources to deal with normal criminals and let the CSAC deal with this situation. It is real simple. Shit was in his wraps that shouldn't have been there and the elements were consistent with that of plaster, if you want to stick you fingers in your ears and not deal in reality that is on you. Margarito act is that of a cheater, sorry that is just how he looks to someone who deals with a lot of cheaters, sorry.

Pac had Illegal Loaded Gloves in the Margarito fight. Pac had Illegal Plaster of Paris Inserts. Before the fight Margo's trainer-Robert Garcia complained to Texas officials that he wanted Pac's re-wrapped cause he saw them place inserts in Pac's wraps, but the Texas officials (at DelaHoya's premidated order) refused. Thats why Margo drank that powdered liquid cause he was countering mind games, since Pac would not re-wrap. Margo had agreed to "throw" the fight so he can get re-licensed, but he alsio had to endure Pac's Illegal loaded gloves, and this , while Pac was "juiced up" with the illegal stamina booster-EPO, A-Side Meth, Steroids, and other PED's. Margarito had to put up with lots of bullshiitt: a.) "lay down/throw the fight" with Pac in a FIXED FIGHT, so he can get re-licensed. b.) endure the fight with Pac being on any EPO, Steroids, PED's c.) endure Pac's Illegal Loaded Gloves. I'm not saying Pacquiao wasn't on steroids. I 100% believe he uses PEDs of some type. They're both cheaters.

If it was that easily explainable he would not have got his license revoked. There are not that many ingredients in plaster so if the elements found in plaster are in the wraps guess what, they were going to cause the gauze to harden, so even if it was a terrible mistake that was still what the end result was going to be hardened gloves. A man that makes a mistake does not act indignant like Margarito, they are apologetic and sorry. I have never seen one ounce of remorse from Margarito, maybe I would believe you if Margarito owned up to a mistake but in my experience (and I have run into many cheaters) people who act like Margarito do not deserve the kind of benefit of the doubt you are giving him. Heres a thought, Maybe Margarito is telling the truth? how does that ring your bell? I mean how would you feel if someone was accusing you of something like this and you knew deep down inside that you didnt do or attempt to do anything? Would you still show remorse? or would you feel as if the system is trying to **** you? its that simple, if he didnt do anything wrong why should he say he is sorry? I mean the cold hard reality is, we can only go by what the lab results show, we can only go by the actions or lack there of, by the DA. I give him the benifit of the doubt, because I am a firm beleiver in 2nd chances in life... So is Larry2011. so is B Hop etc... the man was punished justice has been served, I can not say he tried to use plaster paris because that hasnt been proven so I wont say that. What I will say is he broke the rules, that state your to use fresh gauze only... and he was punished for it. Thats the most I can accuse him of until proven with out a doubt other wise.

Look, from my experience, after a work out in the gym, I had two white socks that I filled with Baking Soda, tied off in a knot each of them. when the gloves came off I tucked those inside to dry them out and keep the smell down. when I went to the gym the next day I would take the socks out, wrap my hands and go to work, you could feel the powder on your hands. Again I am stating this, if it were plaster paris, he would be in prison. it wouldnt need to have been rocks, if the Lab results came back and it was undeniable proof that it was plaster paris he would be gone right now. I am sorry but I can only go on the facts that are out there and from my own experiences in the gym. The gauze pad, again like I said and like its known, it was not fresh it was a pre used gauze pad, and again if you were to work out in the gym for 2 hours, take off your hand wraps set the pad aside for the next day which most in the gym do, you will notice the next day that, that same pad is stiff, and bendable.... all the evidence is consistant with that and not with the man putting rocks in his gloves. If it was that easily explainable he would not have got his license revoked. There are not that many ingredients in plaster so if the elements found in plaster are in the wraps guess what, they were going to cause the gauze to harden, so even if it was a terrible mistake that was still what the end result was going to be hardened gloves. A man that makes a mistake does not act indignant like Margarito, they are apologetic and sorry. I have never seen one ounce of remorse from Margarito, maybe I would believe you if Margarito owned up to a mistake but in my experience (and I have run into many cheaters) people who act like Margarito do not deserve the kind of benefit of the doubt you are giving him.

BULLSHET.... NOBODY get banned from the sport for a year for trying to smell fresh in the ring son. You need to stop with your bullshet son :drillserg Nobody said he was trying to smell fresh, what I am saying is he used, a previously used gauze pad, which is illegal, and at the time was accused of plaster paris which is also illegal. Lab results smacked that idea in the face, only found elements that can be found in plaster paris but found in other items as well. Now, where is this so called block that fell out as Nazim said? Why hasnt the DA put his ass in prison or even filed charges? those questions have yet to be answered with any kind of logical sense.

I'm just 100% convinced the guy is a cheater and could have ruined Cotto's career if not his life. It may sound a little demented, but I wasn't at all sorry for Margarito when Pacquiao crushed his orbital bone. He doesn't deserve to fight, and it's a shame that didn't end his career. But maybe it's all for the better and Cotto will get the opportunity to do it himself. I would spit on Margarito if I ever met him. in case you havent noticed Nevada did clear Margarito of any wrong doing in that fight. Cottos face swelled up? well Manny must have had steal in his ****ing gloves cus he look like a ****ing bug by the end of the fight. and this comming from a Rican.....

Plaster is made from common elements, it is simple to make so just because they are simple doesn't mean the intent was not there. You know there is some time right between putting the gloves on and when they get down to the ring, and the substance even if not properly set plaster is still not just gauze. Just because it is not straight rocks does not make it less of a crime Baking soda, come on dude~ get back to reality Look, from my experience, after a work out in the gym, I had two white socks that I filled with Baking Soda, tied off in a knot each of them. when the gloves came off I tucked those inside to dry them out and keep the smell down. when I went to the gym the next day I would take the socks out, wrap my hands and go to work, you could feel the powder on your hands. Again I am stating this, if it were plaster paris, he would be in prison. it wouldnt need to have been rocks, if the Lab results came back and it was undeniable proof that it was plaster paris he would be gone right now. I am sorry but I can only go on the facts that are out there and from my own experiences in the gym. The gauze pad, again like I said and like its known, it was not fresh it was a pre used gauze pad, and again if you were to work out in the gym for 2 hours, take off your hand wraps set the pad aside for the next day which most in the gym do, you will notice the next day that, that same pad is stiff, and bendable.... all the evidence is consistant with that and not with the man putting rocks in his gloves.

I'm just 100% convinced the guy is a cheater and could have ruined Cotto's career if not his life. It may sound a little demented, but I wasn't at all sorry for Margarito when Pacquiao crushed his orbital bone. He doesn't deserve to fight, and it's a shame that didn't end his career. But maybe it's all for the better and Cotto will get the opportunity to do it himself. I would spit on Margarito if I ever met him.

it was not plaster paris, they found common elements, but those elements are also found in baking soda. the pads as stated were used pads, used gauze formed into a pad to protect the knuckle I am confident that likely he had baking soda that got on those gauze, most fighters put baking soda in their gloves after a work out to get the smell out and reduce getting infection. here is a picture of his gauze pad that was confiscated, and the only thing that you can argue is that its not fresh gauze other than that it looks straight. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/02/antonio-margari.html plaster paris must dry here is a little information in the process and I am sure you will find more sites to confirm this is the method in mixing it and allowing it to set. http://www.ehow.com/how_4475228_use-plaster-paris.html Plaster is made from common elements, it is simple to make so just because they are simple doesn't mean the intent was not there. You know there is some time right between putting the gloves on and when they get down to the ring, and the substance even if not properly set plaster is still not just gauze. Just because it is not straight rocks does not make it less of a crime Baking soda, come on dude~ get back to reality

Wet unset plaster is still a much harder substance than gauze, if anything like that is there it is loaded gloves. Not as bad as Resto because that was strips of plaster with padding removed, those were rocks not gloves but still it is the same crime just much better hidden, I have n sympathy for dudes who do stuff like that their fate is their fate. Margarito got lucky There was something in there that wasn't gauze thus was illegal, quit making excuses for him. it was not plaster paris, they found common elements, but those elements are also found in baking soda. the pads as stated were used pads, used gauze formed into a pad to protect the knuckle I am confident that likely he had baking soda that got on those gauze, most fighters put baking soda in their gloves after a work out to get the smell out and reduce getting infection. here is a picture of his gauze pad that was confiscated, and the only thing that you can argue is that its not fresh gauze other than that it looks straight. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/02/antonio-margari.html plaster paris must dry here is a little information in the process and I am sure you will find more sites to confirm this is the method in mixing it and allowing it to set. http://www.ehow.com/how_4475228_use-plaster-paris.html

After the wraps scandal i dont get why anyone would support him... I think loading ur wraps is way beyond crossing the line any of his fans wanna explain??? No different than Felix Trinidad loading his fists with tape. Actually not as bad. Except I believe Trinidad sr said he always did it. Tape is much more denser than gauze and alot more of it can fit on a gloved hand. The amount of plaster of Paris that a small sponge can absorb is very minimal. Had Margarito done it before he'd have ruined his knuckles because the sponge in question would have rested on his hands.

Mayweather uses pads in each and every single fight as does every fighter, its not a pad per say, its made out of the gauze in which you fold the gauze back and forth to make a pad to cover the knuckle area. Again I have to really question how much you actually know about this sport, do you even know how much gauze and tape a fighter is allowed to use on each hand? Now plaster paris does require water, but you must also let it sit and dry as well to form. How is going to dry when its in a glove, and your hands consistantly sweet? Just stating some facts here. Wet unset plaster is still a much harder substance than gauze, if anything like that is there it is loaded gloves. Not as bad as Resto because that was strips of plaster with padding removed, those were rocks not gloves but still it is the same crime just much better hidden, I have n sympathy for dudes who do stuff like that their fate is their fate. Margarito got lucky There was something in there that wasn't gauze thus was illegal, quit making excuses for him.

Pads are a foreign object not allowed in the wraps, plaster requires water to get made if it has the elements of plaster when they get wet they become plaster then, the wraps never had a chance to get wet so it could never become plaster Mayweather uses pads in each and every single fight as does every fighter, its not a pad per say, its made out of the gauze in which you fold the gauze back and forth to make a pad to cover the knuckle area. Again I have to really question how much you actually know about this sport, do you even know how much gauze and tape a fighter is allowed to use on each hand? Now plaster paris does require water, but you must also let it sit and dry as well to form. How is going to dry when its in a glove, and your hands consistantly sweet? Just stating some facts here.