In the recent Floyd Ortiz fight. We saw Floyd sucker punch Ortiz after the hug.
You can see that Ortiz hands are down and his feet all squared up while backing up. without even any leverage to throw a punch if he tried.
He hasn't reset to be in a fighting stance to box with Floyd.
So my question is, would you fire a gun to a guy not prepared to fire a gun in a cowboy shooting draw? (analogy: Victor was the man whose far from his gun, his hands were down and clearly not in fighting stance to throw a decent punch. Remember he was all squared up.)
When there is a shooting draw. both gun slingers hands are near the gun before they draw. In this case Ortiz hands wasn't ready to fire a gun his hands were no where near the holster. So the question is
Will you fire a gun at a guy whose hands are not close to a holster in a shooting draw?Your hands are near the holster before you fire a gun.
A gunslinger hands are near the gun before they fire. But as you guys know victors hands were nowhere near the gun..
Would you fire knowing the other gunslinger isn't even in a fighting stance and is still not ready to fire?
I'll make it simple.. will you sucker-fire? :)
Answer with a yes or no boys and girls.
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You're completely changing the analogy now. Ortiz's shot was not a kill shot, or Mayweather would have been the one knocked out. Ortiz only grazed Mayweather, and Floyd took that opportunity to cap his ass before Ortiz could fire again.
It was. Clearly victor can't retaliate. He was all squared up, he wasn't in fighting stance. Even if he punched while backing up his punches will be wimpy coz of his stance wasn't in fighting form. He wasn't in a boxing stance yet. His hands were down no chance to draw.. If he did it would miss easily..
If he was able to punch back it won't have any leverage to even get a decent shot.. If you know boxing a deadly punch starts with a good stance for leverage.. Floyd had all that.. Victor was all squared up and had no leverage plus the fact he was backing up all squared up hands down.
In short Victor was a use less man in there. Floyd just got an easy vicious shot to get in from an opponent not ready to draw.
In short a sucker punch lol.. so I guess you would fire your gun to a man not ready to fire.. ok ;)
So you will fire at a guy not ready to fire in a shooting draw contest? Yes or No? Imagine the guys hands are no were near his gun will you fire at him? Yes or NO will suffice ;)it`s boxing match, not a gun fight. FYI.
Your already dead if you said yes if he shoots you you will fire back. You can't fire back when the bullet has gone to your skull.
Remember you are not in fighting stance. He fired without you knowing it. Your dead.. As victor is KO'd
You're completely changing the analogy now. Ortiz's shot was not a kill shot, or Mayweather would have been the one knocked out. Ortiz only grazed Mayweather, and Floyd took that opportunity to cap his ass before Ortiz could fire again.
i am neither a flomo or floud - i do know that the first thing i was taught was to keep my hands up and to protect himself at all times. even after ortiz got hit with the left, as a pro, his guard should have come up immediately. it didn`t hence the KO.
if a goalie leaves the ice to get a hot dog should his opponents stop shooting on net? come on dude.
So you will fire at a guy not ready to fire in a shooting draw contest? Yes or No? Imagine the guys hands are no were near his gun will you fire at him? Yes or NO will suffice ;)
Your already dead if you said yes if he shoots you you will fire back. You can't fire back when the bullet has gone to your skull.
Remember you are not in fighting stance. He fired without you knowing it. Your dead.. As victor is KO'd
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If he had already shot at me, then yes.
Your already dead if you said yes if he shoots you. You can't fire back.
You can't fire back when the bullet has gone to your skull. This is a shooting draw the first one who fires kills the guy.
Remember you are not in fighting stance. He fired without you knowing it. Your dead.. As victor is KO'd
Sucker Punchoyd hits women, abuses his children, his family are drug dealers, he disrespects cops and he verbally abuses his own father on national tv. Why would we be surprised at himsucker punching his way out of a fight?? :dunno:
Victor and Floyd had lethal hands that's there guns.. Victor wasn't ready to fire, his hands wasn't near the holster but again as you know Floyd fired even if he knows victor couldn't punch if he wanted to.. He was all squared up hands down.. So The question will you fire a gun at a man who clearer not ready to fire a gun in a shooting draw?
If he had already shot at me, then yes.
This analogy only works if the other guy had a gun, fired at me, then dropped it and apologized.
You wouldn't shoot that guy?
Victor and Floyd had lethal hands that's there guns.. Victor wasn't ready to fire, his hands wasn't near the holster but again as you know Floyd fired even if he knows victor couldn't punch if he wanted to.. He was all squared up hands down.. So The question will you fire a gun at a man who clearly not ready to fire a gun in a shooting draw?
Your hands are near the holster before you fire a gun. You cunclip the holster first. Stare each other down while your hands are near the gun in a holster. Clearer now lol..
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Why would you go into a gun fight with your gun in your holster?
Your hands are near the holster before you fire a gun. You unclip the holster first. Stare each other down while your hands are near the gun in a holster. Clearer now lol..
It was sucker punch, there's no question about it. The fight is not seen as legit by the entire boxing community except for flomos and some floud supporters.
Floyd himself was talking about a rematch as soon as the fight ended. :lol1:
He'll never get the credit he wants because he's ducked the top names in the division for years and when he fights someone like Ortiz he sucker punches his way out of a fight.. specially when the pressure was getting to him. That's why Floyd is the joke of sports for the entire world. Only athlete media outlets constantly clown and call him out for the fraud he is. :haha: :haha:i am neither a flomo or floud - i do know that the first thing i was taught was to keep my hands up and to protect himself at all times. even after ortiz got hit with the left, as a pro, his guard should have come up immediately. it didn`t hence the KO.
if a goalie leaves the ice to get a hot dog should his opponents stop shooting on net? come on dude.
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