Care to debate this now.....
Floyd could have hit him before the embrace, he chose not to, he baited this kid in, to ensure he was totally unsuspecting and defensless and nailed him, exactly what we see in your gifs, its clearly a foul according to Nevada...
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http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nac/NAC-467.html
NAC 467.675 Acts constituting fouls in boxing. (NRS 467.030) The following acts constitute fouls in boxing:
1. Hitting below the belt.
2. Hitting an opponent who is down or is getting up after being down.
3. Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other.
4. Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch.
5. Wrestling or kicking.
6. If the referee has signaled that the opponent has been knocked out, striking an opponent who is helpless as a result of previous blows and so supported by the ropes that he does not fall.
7. Butting with the head or shoulder or using the knee.
8. Hitting with the open glove, the butt of the hand, the wrist or the elbow, and all backhand blows.
9. Purposely going down without being hit.
10. Striking deliberately at that part of the body over the kidneys.
11. Deliberately using the rabbit punch.
12. Jabbing the opponent’s eyes with the thumb of the glove.
13. Using abusive language in the ring.
14. Engaging in any unsportsmanlike trick or action which causes injury to an opponent. :fu2:
15. Hitting on the break.
16. Hitting after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
17. Hitting an opponent whose head is between and outside of the ropes.
18. Pushing an opponent about the ring or into the ropes.
Question is why was Ortiz kissing and hugging this *****? I whud of did the same thing if some Mexican dude tried to kiss n hug me n ****
Pretty stupid question if you ask me has nothing to do with the rules I posted
LOL, you don't even know what you are talking about. You're confusing yourself. How many times does the ref have to signal for the fighters to resume fighting? I'll tell you how many, once. Thats why Floyd has an extra W on his record and you're just a bitter old hater.
Again it is you who is the one getting **** twisted, its not about what the ref said, during the time in which Cortez was speaking with the time keeper, Ortiz offered another apology, Floyd nodded his head and proceeded forward with his hands down inviting him in, as Ortiz got close Floyd brings his hands up and allows Ortiz to hug him and waits until Ortiz steps back to nail him.
stop twisting **** you know exactly what I am talking about you just aint man enough to admit the truth because in doing so you violate the qualifications needed to be a Flomo
Thats not what I am talkin about I am talkin about during the time Cortez was looking away while Ortiz and Floyd embraced stop spinnin **** you know exactly what I am talking about
LOL, you don't even know what you are talking about. You're confusing yourself. How many times does the ref have to signal for the fighters to resume fighting? I'll tell you how many, once. Thats why Floyd has an extra W on his record and you're just a bitter old hater.
You got it once again wrong, read #14 and look at how the fight ended he baited ortiz in to the embrace "tricked" and then nailed him, he should have just nailed him rather than allow Ortiz to hug him that final time
I am not pinoy try again I am puerto rican
The trick was he let Victor Ortiz get close to him??
Well sh1t strip his title and lock him up. While we're at it, lets DQ every counter puncher in the sport for their baiting and trickery. If you think that was his trick that you have no basis for an argument.
1. you can't argue with ignorance, something i learned long ago on NSB.
2. No matter how hard someone tries to convince the world their opinion is right, it still doesn't change reality; Mayweather won the fight by KO, you can cry me a river, it doesn't change that fact.
"Let's Go."
You can make a case that Mayweather should have been disqualified, but boxing doesn't need the ramifications of making that call. . . .What is paramount in the mind of the ref once that punch lands? . . .Is it the technical application of the rules or is it the event, the work that goes into putting it together, the revenue it generates and the sport itself?
If Cortez makes the call then the marquee name in boxing gets disqualified for the kind of sh*t-house punch that's more at place in a pub carpark and loses his revenue inducing '0'. A multi-million dollar sporting event that includes your hard earned PPV fee ends in a disgraceful DQ. A potential Pacquaio showdown is tainted. Boxing is once again rolling in the gutter and Old Joe has to explain his decision to powerful men with vested interests.
Cortez was never gonna make that call if he could help it, better to let it slide. In a fight of this size his primary concern is not the application of the rules per se, but how best to apply the rules for the sake of the event and for his own self preservation. Mills Lane refused to call a DQ when Holyfield's ear was spat onto the canvas; he took a point. It was only Tyson's persistence that forced him to act after the second bite.
With boxing facing the challenge of an MMA triangle choke and vying for the casual fan, a DQ decision would have made it official: In Mayweather V. Ortiz, boxing made like Tyson Fury and punched itself in the face. Calling it a KO lets us gloss over it and move on towards a true superfight like nothing untoward happened.
You are an idiot! Here's where I own you. At 7:29 of this video Cortez tells the fighters "Let's go" and signals for them to resume fighting. Go back to playing with your tinfoil hats kid.
Thats not what I am talkin about I am talkin about during the time Cortez was looking away while Ortiz and Floyd embraced stop spinnin **** you know exactly what I am talking about
Well the first quote proves that he did something dirty ............................. .......................waiting for your point? Every fighter in the history of boxing does dirty stuff. It was dirty, yet legal. And in light of the situation you could argue it was justifiable.
The second quote is interesting, he could have meant he didn't hear Cortez say "let's go" or he didn't hear Cortez say "stop" after the first punch (which is was Victor was waiting for) so Floyd continued with the right.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, let's say Floyd didn't hear Cortez say "Let's go". You are arguing that Floyd accidentally knocked out Victor LEGALLY? His intent was to KO him illegally and he got lucky?
You got it once again wrong, read #14 and look at how the fight ended he baited ortiz in to the embrace "tricked" and then nailed him, he should have just nailed him rather than allow Ortiz to hug him that final time
actually we all get it ur a pinoy that hates floyd. shocking! i know that never happens here.
I am not pinoy try again I am puerto rican
actually Boxinggenious thought it was needed to further debate this, though I have yet to see anybody come here and clearly dispute that rule with any type of logic...
actually we all get it ur a pinoy that hates floyd. shocking! i know that never happens here.
So following the Nevada rules then Ortiz was already DQ'd for headbutting his opponent.
At one point, after the final head-butt, Ortiz actually tried to kiss Mayweather. No lie, watch the tape. He actually tried to kiss him and hug him three times after head-butting him. I don't think Ortiz can have any complaints, he behaved like a rookie chump and got treated like one. The stupid grin on his face after he got KO'd said it all. What a chump.
LOL you're the motherF'ing man. Thats what I thought. No sucker punch, a sucker just got punched is all. LOL
Okay then refer to the Floyd quotes
"We aint here to talk about what he did dirty or what I did dirty" (Post fight with Merchant)
"I didnt hear Cortez say anything all I know is I got fouled and what goes around comes around" (Post fight presser)
Those statements there do not sound like the man is saying I won this fight fair, those statements there are basically Floyd admitting that he fouled the kid back I would have more respect if Floyd and his supporters just owned up and admitted yes he violated the rules, who wouldnt have done the same...
at least in that regard your keeping it real, but thats not what I get, what I get is I am a hater, okay, or I dont know **** about boxing, Sure I dont, or I get Floyd didnt do anything wrong.
bull**** the mans statements alone disprove what you guys argue
Well the first quote proves that he did something dirty ............................. .......................waiting for your point? Every fighter in the history of boxing does dirty stuff. It was dirty, yet legal. And in light of the situation you could argue it was justifiable.
The second quote is interesting, he could have meant he didn't hear Cortez say "let's go" or he didn't hear Cortez say "stop" after the first punch (which is was Victor was waiting for) so Floyd continued with the right.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, let's say Floyd didn't hear Cortez say "Let's go". You are arguing that Floyd accidentally knocked out Victor LEGALLY? His intent was to KO him illegally and he got lucky?
So following the Nevada rules then Ortiz was already DQ'd for headbutting his opponent.
At one point, after the final head-butt, Ortiz actually tried to kiss Mayweather. No lie, watch the tape. He actually tried to kiss him and hug him three times after head-butting him. I don't think Ortiz can have any complaints, he behaved like a rookie chump and got treated like one. The stupid grin on his face after he got KO'd said it all. What a chump.
The ref didnt call them together at that point, your ****ing lying now. you all agrued that time was in at that point anyways which it was, at what point did you see Cortez call them together last time I saw this vid, Cortez was busy talking to the time keeper and yes Floyd knew exactly what he was doing
You are an idiot! Here's where I own you. At 7:29 of this video Cortez tells the fighters "Let's go" and signals for them to resume fighting. Go back to playing with your tinfoil hats kid.
this waste of oxygen is still ranting?
actually Boxinggenious thought it was needed to further debate this, though I have yet to see anybody come here and clearly dispute that rule with any type of logic...