In this video, you will see the truth that Floyd was elbowing Victor from the very start.. You can really see that being hit with a lot of elbows will make any fighter pissed from being elbowed over and over.. Maybe this might be the cause of the Victor Headbutt? Watch and conclude for yourself..
Both Victor and Floyd seem to be fighting dirty, But I think Victor did the head butt out of sheer frustration of being elbowed from 1st to 4th round and the accumulation should make any fighter snap and retaliate back.. hence the head butt.. I repeat both fighter played dirty..
It's only rational to be pissed of from getting hit with too many elbows strikes. In sports fair game should be played..
Both Floyd or Ortiz are not commendable for the actions, but it sure means that we truly see how Floyd's dirty tactics of using his elbows is part of his dirty tactics to win a fight.
Watch..
Part 1:
Part 2: this video just shows victor's competitiveness in the fight
More elbowing from the Hatton fight
Video shows it all.. :lol1: Victor did better than I remembered.. I knew Vic held his own but did better than I thought.
And Flomosapiens argue that HBO was biased against Floyd
when cortez is the ref for a floyd fight those rules will be replaced by this two important rule
1. Make sure floyd wins
2. Act blind when floyd swinging his elbow rolls
It's not just Cortez, the rules don't seem to apply to the top guys in the sport. You have some rules on the list, "pivot punch" and leaving the neutral corner, made to protect the most popular fighters. The sport allows guys like Mayweather and Pacquiao to make their own rules in the contract. Thus, even the rules while fighting are disregarded. The sport needs to enforce only the rules that they've made to ensure a level contest. No more catchweights and no more elbows.
Fouls according to the Association of Boxing Commission Regulatory Guidelines.
Fouls
A foul is an action by a boxer, identified by the referee, that does not meet the standard of a fair blow or the conduct of a responsible professional fighter. Fouls may include, but are not limited to, the following types of contact or acts:
1. Hitting an opponent below the navel or behind the ear;
2. Hitting an opponent who is knocked down;
3. Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other;
4. Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch;
5. Wrestling, kicking or roughing;
6. Pushing an opponent about the ring or into the ropes;
7. Butting with the head, shoulder, knee, elbow;
8. Hitting with the open glove, the butt or inside of the hand, or back of the hand,
the elbow or the wrist;
9. Purposely falling down onto the canvas of the ring without being hit or for the
purpose of avoiding a blow;
10. Striking deliberately at that part of the body over the kidneys;
11. Using the pivot blow (pivoting while throwing a punch) or the rabbit punch
(punches thrown to the back of the head and neck areas);
12. Jabbing the eyes with the thumb of the glove;
13. Use of abusive language;
14. Unsportsmanlike conduct causing injury to an opponent that does not meet the
standard of a fair blow;
15. Hitting on the break;
16. Intentionally spitting out the mouthpiece;
17. Hitting on or out of the ropes;
18. Holding rope and hitting;
19. Biting/spitting;
20. Not following referee's instructions;
21. Stepping on opponent;
22. Crouching below opponent's belt;
23. Leaving neutral corner; and
24. Corner second shouting.
Video shows it all.. :lol1: Victor did better than I remembered.. I knew Vic held his own but did better than I thought.
Yup, slowmo video shows whats the real deal.. Victor was in that fight.. Up to the 4th round no one was in control yet.. It was just about to heat up..
So now after being unsportsmanlike on a fight that is nowhere near over, you want us to give Floyd credit for KOing a guy that had both hands down? lol!
Floyd knew that Ortiz would NOT be expecting those 2 sucker punches. That is the same Floyd that expects fairness.
What's next? You want us to give Floyd lots of credit for beating a Marquez at 146lbs? You know the Floyd that changed his mind at the 144lb CW. You know, the Marquez that had just moved up to 135 and never fought nowhere near 146lbs guys ..... PLEASE!!!
You want to give Floyd loads of credit for those type of wins, then be my guest BUT don't expect true fans (ie. not Floyd is my hero fans) of the sport to do that.
green coming up
Part 2: this video just shows victor competititveness in the fight.
Video shows it all.. :lol1: Victor did better than I remembered.. I knew Vic held his own but did better than I thought.
I dont know whats more shocking, the fact you give him so much credit for a cheap shot ko, or the fact you get mad we dont give him credit for a cheap shot ko.
You got em' there bro.. That was a kidney shot hehe!
I cringe everytime I watch that video. Floyd is a disgrace of a human.
I know what you mean bro he has this unsportsmanlike conduct and fighting behavior in and out of the ring.
check out a mayweather fan, snitching/keepin it real
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/converse.php?u=93074&u2=163753
opps was that you larry? why you snitchin for?
SHAMEFUL! I'm not sure what to say. Clearly this is not a person who has such a hate on for another boxer he can't see the forest for the trees. Lets ask ourselves a question why would someone use their FOREARM to block someone coming in? Especially him fighting in a mirrored stance? Could it be their head??? what happens and what is a warning for most fights when an orthodox and a Southpaw come together? Hmmm... Clash of heads? with Ortiz trying to rub his face along another opposing boxers faces?
It's funny. Dude releases a video of how Floyd was loosing the 4th round but then Ortiz headbutt to...to what...prove the Floyd was? What did Ortiz land to prove that he one the round? and if he knew he was winning why would he jump off both legs??? to EMPHASIS the point?
Excuse after excuse only looking to prove his own point, those FOREARMS are there to protect oncoming head traffic. The only thing i know is the guy who posted the vid has moderately good taste in music. You have no point just a bias which is self explanatory.
U MAD?
keep posting your slow motion bull****.
Your the one with huge letters bro, you mad?? I can swear I thought your raging bro hehe!
In this video, you will see the truth that Floyd was elbowing Victor from the very start.. You can really see that being hit with a lot of elbows will make any fighter pissed from being elbowed over and over.. Maybe this might be the cause of the Victor Headbutt? Watch and conclude for yourself..
Both Victor and Floyd seem to be fighting dirty, But I think Victor did the head butt out of sheer frustration of being elbowed from 1st to 4th round and the accumulation should make any fighter snap and retaliate back.. hence the head butt.. I repeat both fighter played dirty..
It's only rational to be pissed of from getting hit with too many elbows strikes. In sports fair game should be played..
Both Floyd or Ortiz are not commendable for the actions, but it sure means that we truly see how Floyd's dirty tactics of using his elbows is part of his dirty tactics to win a fight.
Watch..
SHAMEFUL! I'm not sure what to say. Clearly this is not a person who has such a hate on for another boxer he can't see the forest for the trees. Lets ask ourselves a question why would someone use their FOREARM to block someone coming in? Especially him fighting in a mirrored stance? Could it be their head??? what happens and what is a warning for most fights when an orthodox and a Southpaw come together? Hmmm... Clash of heads? with Ortiz trying to rub his face along another opposing boxers faces?
It's funny. Dude releases a video of how Floyd was loosing the 4th round but then Ortiz headbutt to...to what...prove the Floyd was? What did Ortiz land to prove that he one the round? and if he knew he was winning why would he jump off both legs??? to EMPHASIS the point?
Excuse after excuse only looking to prove his own point, those FOREARMS are there to protect oncoming head traffic. The only thing i know is the guy who posted the vid has moderately good taste in music. You have no point just a bias which is self explanatory.
U MAD?
keep posting your slow motion bull****.
i use whatever i can to create space.. and i dont give a fu8k if they face gets hit by my elbow. sooo..
then you're gonna get DQ'd for it hehe! Dumbass! you should know boxing ain't muay thai elbowing is illegal lol..
Goodluck on your career! You might not win a fight ever hehe!
He's always used his elbow and forearms. He's sneaky with it, but he knows exactly what he's doing in there and 90 percent of his elbows that look accidental are actually intentional. Hopkins is a similar fighter who knows how to bend the rules and be sneaky about it.
lets be clear here, elbow strike ain't in the rules.. If he is sneaky and gets away with it then great, but if the referee just doesn't call it every time that it is rampantly obvious then that is sneaky of the referee, maybe their in cahoots? hehe!
If deduction happens for head butting, deduction should also happen for elbowing. Fair game bro..
It's just that it is so blatant, and Refs like Cortez is either blind for not seeing it or just in cahoots plain and simple..
I'd say elbowing can be in the category of cheap shotting as well.
More like an elbow strike to hit or to create spacing both not part of boxing..elbows are lethal and pointy when you get hit by it, same as a fist thats why there is gloves ;)
So now after being unsportsmanlike on a fight that is nowhere near over, you want us to give Floyd credit for KOing a guy that had both hands down? lol!
Floyd knew that Ortiz would NOT be expecting those 2 sucker punches. That is the same Floyd that expects fairness.
What's next? You want us to give Floyd lots of credit for beating a Marquez at 146lbs? You know the Floyd that changed his mind at the 144lb CW. You know, the Marquez that had just moved up to 135 and never fought nowhere near 146lbs guys ..... PLEASE!!!
You want to give Floyd loads of credit for those type of wins, then be my guest BUT don't expect true fans (ie. not Floyd is my hero fans) of the sport to do that.
You got him there bro.. That should shut his mouth for a while hehe! That was a liver shot.