Umm tough one its a loaded division but mine is something like this
Greb
Monzon
Hagler
Burley
Robinson
Tiger
Hopkins
Darcy
Fitzsimmons
Ketchel
Jermain Taylor
Jermain Taylor
Jermain Taylor
Jermain Taylor
Jermain Taylor
Jermain Taylor
Jermain Taylor
Jermain Taylor
Jermain Taylor
Jermain Taylor
My man, Robinson fought 137 time over the welterweight limit and won the middleweight title 5 times. At 5' 11" he was definitely a middleweight for much of his career. On that note, he was a greater welter for sure, but his accomplishments at 160 are just to great to overlook.
No, I'm not saying he did nothing at MW. But when people rate him they always rate him as a MW as if he never existed as a WW. he was 73–1 when he won the welterweight title. How many of those were over the limit?
Even though SRR best weight was at WW his resume at MW is damn good still. My top 4 doesn't change.
1. Greb
2. SRR
3. Monzon
4. Hagler
IMO they're the greatest MW's of all time. Now #5 is a bit tricky for me anyways. I think you can put quite a few names on their. I go with Lamotta at #5, I just liked what he did there.
5. Lamotta
But, guys like Ketchell and Fitzsimmons can easily replace him.
To me, MW is the greatest, deepest, most talented division of all time right behind WW.
Hopkins doesnt come to mind for you?
Wonder why everyone always goes back to Ray Rob when he was a career WW really.
his wins at middleweight > his wins at welter
Hopkins doesnt come to mind for you?
Wonder why everyone always goes back to Ray Rob when he was a career WW really.
My man, Robinson fought 137 time over the welterweight limit and won the middleweight title 5 times. At 5' 11" he was definitely a middleweight for much of his career. On that note, he was a greater welter for sure, but his accomplishments at 160 are just to great to overlook.
i'm not a boxing historian but the names that come to mind ...are
Monzon
Greb
Hagler
Robinson
Burley
Hopkins doesnt come to mind for you?
Wonder why everyone always goes back to Ray Rob when he was a career WW really.
My top 3 are pretty much going to be there regardless of the position. 4 through 7 could all be interchangeable, and 8 through 10 could all be reasonably replaced with other fighters in my opinion. Middleweight is just such a deep division it's difficult to nail a list down and keep it that way unless you've studied all the top fighters in depth. In other words....I agree with you. :D
Lol yeah, case and point ive ALREADY just dropped Mickey Walker for Stanley Ketchel....
Im happier with that choice i think, Ketchel is better. I think i let my fondness of the Toy Bulldog sneak him ahead...
When the greatness is on this high a level and so close its hard to stick with any given top ten!
My top 3 are pretty much going to be there regardless of the position. 4 through 7 could all be interchangeable, and 8 through 10 could all be reasonably replaced with other fighters in my opinion. Middleweight is just such a deep division it's difficult to nail a list down and keep it that way unless you've studied all the top fighters in depth. In other words....I agree with you. :D
My middleweight list is always changing but here it is.
1. Harry Greb
2. Carlos Monzon
3. Marvin Hagler
4. Stanley Ketchel
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Sugar Ray Robinson
7. Bob Fitzsimmons
8. Jake LaMotta
9. Freddie Steele
10. Holman Williams
Next week I may have a different order. :dunno:When the greatness is on this high a level and so close its hard to stick with any given top ten!
My middleweight list is always changing but here it is.
1. Harry Greb
2. Carlos Monzon
3. Marvin Hagler
4. Stanley Ketchel
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Sugar Ray Robinson
7. Bob Fitzsimmons
8. Jake LaMotta
9. Freddie Steele
10. Holman Williams
Next week I may have a different order. :dunno: