Time for predictions and keep the stupid stuff off the thread please. Now that Pacquiao already lined up Bradley for May 2012 and with his team coming out saying they will not agree to Floyd's testing, it seems impossible to believe Mayweather-Pacquiao will happen in Spring 2012.
So, who do you think Mayweather will fight next??? Give me your honest prediction, I will list some of the only possibilities imaginable.
Andre Berto
Sergio Martinez
Amir Khan
Saul Alvarez
Manny Pacquiao
Victor Ortiz
Who do you think he will fight next, and tell me when you think it will happen and why.
Typical flomo....1. Pac is a boxer under the boxing commission's rules, not Floyd's.
2. All of floyd's last opponents are subpar, not the beasts that the fans wanted him to fight...
3. Floyd should fight Martinez
Haha Nope. Just telling it like it is. So....fans really wanted to see Pacquiao fight Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez??? Go look back man.
When is the last time Pac fought someone in their "prime"??? Solis back in 2007.
When is the last time Pac fought someone not coming off losses or crap performances??? Marquez hasn't lost in 2 years I guess, but he hasn't had any big wins either. Diaz in 2008.
Also, you were probably one of the people saying "Floyd fought Hatton who was blown up at 147. Hatton sucked at 147." I was the person saying "Hatton was unbeaten, in his prime, #4 P4P in the world." You better follow suit when Pac fights Bradley and most likely beats him, and you better say "Bradley sucked at 147", the same way you probably did when Floyd beat Hatton.
So...if Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez, Shane Mosley, and Victor Ortiz were all sub-par.....what does that say about Manny???
Lets talk Floyd last 7 opponents and the people he supposedly ducked.
Floyd fought Zab Judah in 2006. Judah was in his latter prime, but was coming off an upset loss to Baldomir. Judah was one of the top WW in the world, in his prime.
Then, Floyd fought Baldomir, and was seen to have ducked Margarito. If I am not mistaken, didn't Floyd split with Arum after the Judah fight, than Arum and Floyd both said they would never do business again. you wanna say he ducked him??? go ahead. We know who the better fighter is. But, if Floyd avoided Margarito in your eyes, you better say Manny sure did a nice job of avoiding Berto in 2010 and Ortiz in 2011. Anyway, Baldomir was coming off a huge win over Judah and hadn't lost a fight in over 8 years. He was the recognized WW champion of the world.
Then, the fans are clamoring for Floyd to go up to 154 and fight De La Hoya, after his come back win over Mayorga. Floyd goes up to 154, not a CW, and beats Oscar to win the Super WW title. The fans wanted it, they got it.
Then, he fought Ricky Hatton, who had been at 147 before. Hatton was #4 in the world, unbeaten, and in his prime. He beat him.
Then, Floyd retires for 21 months. This is when EVERYONE was saying Floyd ducked Cotto. If I am also not mistaken, Floyd had been calling out Cotto since 2006, and Top Rank even came out and said "Cotto isn't ready for Floyd".
Then, Floyd comes back and fights Marquez, who's only loss recently was the controversial SD loss to Manny in 2008, where most people thought he won. He fought at a 144 CW for Marquez and dominated him clearly. Don't tell me Floyd should have gone down to 140 or 135, he hadn't been at 140 in 4 years or 135 in 6 years. He wasn't going back down to those weights.
Then, Floyd fought Mosley. Mosley was coming off a knockout win over Margarito and was seen as one of the top WW in the world going into the fight right??? Roach even said, "Floyd won't fight Mosley. It's too dangerous of a fight for Floyd". So, Mayweather fought Mosley coming off a knockout win over Margarito, while Manny chose to fight Clottey who hadn't even won a fight in two years.
Then, Floyd came back after 16 months and fought Victor Ortiz, coming off big wins and in his prime. Meanwhile, Manny had an entire month to sign on and fight Ortiz, but instead chose Marquez. He had a pretty one-sided showing against Ortiz in a win.
Now, Floyd has been rumored to be fighting Sergio Martinez at 154, because Manny already has his next opponent lined up. Funny how that ALWAYS seems to happen.
Margarito was lined up for Manny back in February 2010, when Arum was supposedly trying to make a Floyd fight happen during July 2010. Mosley said in October 2010, he was guaranteed a fight with Manny in May 2011. Now, Braldey declined to fight Khan back in May 2011, because he wanted a Pacquiao fight. Now, it's October 2011, and supposedly he's been guaranteed a fight with Manny in May 2012 next.
Also, in the first negotiations, the only real negotiations by the way, Manny flat out never agreed to 14 days. Floyd than upped the request to testing up until fight day, most likely because of Manny acting shady about drug testing in the first place (scared of needles, weakened by giving a small dose of blood, etc.). Manny and his team said they agreed to testing up until fight day, only to have Koncz come out a year later and say they never agreed to any testing within 14 days of the fight. That was CLEARLY CLEARLY CLEARLY a flat out lie by Manny, Arum, and his entire team. Now, we have Ariza saying they will not do any tests, other than the ones provided by the boxing commissions (which are the tests Mosley got away with for years).
You're delusional if you don't feel all fights in boxing need random testing up until fight day. At least the big fights or title fights do.
Manny is CLEARLY avoiding testing, therefore you can't say Floyd ever ducked him, unless you just truly hate Floyd.
Margarito after he beats Cotto for the title.
Floyd vs Tony for the 154 title and then somehow Martinez is in the mix afterwards. That would make good TV for me.
If Cotto wins, I wouldn't rule out Floyd fighting him and maybe Khan after that if Khan thinks he ready by then
Would you go that far man? Do you not feel Khan's youth and mainly lighting speed of hand & foot could cause Mayweather & his style problems?
Not really. Maybe for a couple rounds.
Floyd's ring IQ, footwork, balance, defense, versatility...are all much better than Khan. Mayweather spends the first 2 rounds adapting to Khan and the rest of it picking him apart.
Floyd gets little credit from me until he faces Manny or Sergio.
If i was GBP I'd put Morales in with the dude who just won the light welterweight title elminiator on Showtime (Olusegun) pay him to dive or make morales look good, which would then make morales look like a viable opponent for Floyd on Cinco de Mayo...makes perfect boxing sense.
Probably Khan.
It's a marketable fight, Khan is a GBP fighter, and also barely has a snowball's chance in hell of winning.
Would you go that far man? Do you not feel Khan's youth and mainly lighting speed of hand & foot could cause Mayweather & his style problems?
it seems to me that khan is next for floyd. mostly because it's best from the financial perspective. floyd brings US PPV ,and khan UK PPV. it would be premature, but a good fight nonetheless.
sergio fight would mostly be for a challenge, and if floyd beat him, that would definitely put him way ahead of pac in terms of legacy.
i don't really see any other names in the mix. berto? we had ortiz. canelo... why canelo??? not a good fight!
I think the most viable is Sergio at 150-154. or Khan at 147. I hope he doesn't take another long layoff. The fact that he only fought 4 rounds with Ortiz should motivate him to get back in the ring ASAP.
look at this clown. he wants us to spit out and ignore what uncle roger said, "floyd is not fighting pac next." yet he wants us to absorb and digest what ariza said hook line and sinker. this is the same case when koncz mentioned 7 days cut off (which is reasonable if you are normal person), yet they didn't believe him when he broke the news about floyd demanding $100 million relating to the singapore and mandela negotiations.
these flomos are like little kids who want all the toys. pac is juicing. no evidence is needed. he's juicing because i say so. no need to sue either. he's amateurish. he fought nothing but bums. but....... "take the test, pac!" :boxing:
what a bunch of clowns. you guys are embarrassing.
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Floyd fights bums??? I seem to remember Mayweather fighting Ortiz, in his prime and coming off big wins. Meanwhile, Manny chose to fight Marquez at 144, 2 years after Floyd dominated him there and 3 1/2 years after his controversial SD win. Manny's usually chooses people coming off losses, you can't deny it.
The only times he beat good opponents not coming off losses or crap performances were Barrera in 2003, Solis in 2007, Marquez in 2008, Diaz in 2008, and now maybe Marquez in 20011.
He lost to Morales the first time, and Morales had just lost to Barrera. Then, he beat Morales, only after Raheem had just beaten him. He beat Oscar, after Floyd just did. He beat Hatton, coming off a KO by Floyd and crap showings against Malignaggi and Lazcano. He beat Cotto, coming off a KO by Margarito and a terrible fight against Clottey. He beat Clottey, who hadn't won a fight in two years. He beat Margarito, coming off a KO by Mosley. He beat Mosley, coming off a loss to Floyd and a crap showing against Mora.
The only time Floyd had a "big fight" with a guy coming off losses or crap performances were against a latter prime Judah, and that's it. The main fight people talk s**t about for Floyd is his fight with Baldomir, which was far better than Pac fighting Clottey. Clottey hadn't won a fight in 2 years, Baldomir hadn't lost in 8 years and had just beaten a prime Zab Judah and was the recognized Welterweight Champion of the world.
Also, I love how the Pac fans ignore the fact that Margarito even said in February 2010 that he was promised to fight Manny in November 2010...when Arum was supposedly talking about a Floyd fight. They always forget that.
Also, NO ONE can say Floyd ducked Manny back in 2010 when a Floyd signature was supposedly all that was needed because Manny had supposedly agreed to test until fight day....well Pacquiao's closest adviser proved that false. He even said in July 2011 that Manny has never agreed to do any testing within 14 days, but they may be open to 7 days.
And now we have Ariza, Pac's conditioning coach, saying they will only do the tests provided by the boxing commissions.
Also, if Pacquiao chooses to fight Bradley next at 147...you better follow suit on how you all said "Hatton was blown up and sucked at 147". You better follow suit. And I will follow suit as well. I always said, Hatton had been at 147, was #4 P4P in the world, unbeaten, in his prime. If Pac beats Bradley, he gets credit from me. But you Pacquiao fans better not praise Pac for beating a top 140 lb fighter, but criticize Floyd when he did the exact same thing.
No they didn't. Show me where they said we won't do it. Plus like I said they don't matter.
Floyds last words were I never said Pac was next.
Is Koncz even part of team Pac anymore with all the bs going on there. Either way he doesnt matter.
How do you know he will not. The only thing he has said since the fight is that he won't rematch Ortiz even though in the ring he said he would. Another contradiction. That wasn't even Ortiz's best landed shots that rd. He stunned Mayweather earlier and made him get a worried look on his face,
Again Pac said he would test, the others dont matter. But since you went there tell me where they said they wouldnt. saying they shouldnt have to isnt saying they wouldnt. Show me a contract where Bradley is fighting Pac in May next year. I havent seen it yet. Why doesnt May fight Sergio?
Actually, Floyd's last words were "If he takes the test, we can fight". He said that at the Press Conference after the fight. Pac's last words were "I don't need Floyd". Arum's last words have been "I don't think the fight will happen" and "The testing is a non-issue". Koncz, Pac's adviser, his last words were "Manny never agreed tot esting within 14 days". Ariza, Pac's conditioning coach, his last words were "Why would we do what Floyd wants? We are going to do the tests the boxing commissions provide".
Also, the rumor has been that Floyd may fight Sergio next. Also, Manny and Arum both said that he would absolutely fight Sergio, only at 150 lbs though. Sergio comes out a week ago and says he would drop to 150 (though I would rather not see him do that), and what happened????? No word from Pac's team or Pac himself (who can never seem to speak up), and than Top Rank officials saying Bradley is next. Again, I like the Braldey pick, his best opponent since Marquez in 08' or Morales in 05', and his first prime opponent since Solis in 07'. But, if Mayweather did that, you would be all over him.
Ortiz landed 26 punches through 4 rounds....yeah he was really getting to Floyd. Also, that punch count also counts the rabbitt punches that Ortiz landed ont he back of Floyd's head. Even your slow motion of Ortiz before the headbutt....he landed 2, maybe 3, clean punches there. Than, he headbutted Mayweather. I should come up with a slow motion of the 73 punches Floyd landed in 4 rounds. Also, Ortiz said Floyd never even fazed him...he looked fazed a bit when Mayweather hit him with a few combo's to open up round 4. Even round 2, Ortiz' best round, Mayweather landed 13 power shots to 8. Round 4, Mayweather landed 22 punches to Ortiz 9 until the headbutt.
Ortiz never even had Floyd as hurt as Mosley did in round 2. Floyd takes a couple punches and people freak out. Like I have always said...for about 0:20 seconds a round when Floyd opponent has him on the ropes and lands about 4-5 punches, people go crazy and forget about the 2:40 where Floyd lands over 20 punches at will. Then they wanna say Floyd lost the round. Hrdcore boxing analysts, boxers, people in general....they all saw the mismatch once round 3 started. I am only mad we didn't get to see the fight unfold because of Ortiz being in a daze for some unknown reason when Cortez motioned them together.
Ortiz landed 26 punches through 4, with 6-7 rabbitt punches landing on the back of Floyd's head. Yeah...he was really getting to Floyd.
Whenever Roger or Floyd Mayweather Sr. say anything about Mayweather, you Pac clowns act not only act as if they are speaking on behalf of Floyd Jr., you jump on it as if it is the word of God written in stone. Yet, when someone in Pac's camp says things that are contradictory to what his worshippers want to believe, you make ridiculous excuses such as they don't speak on behalf of Pac, only Arum and Pac do.
Ariza said a few months ago that Pac never agreed to tests without a cut-off date. He said that Pac would only agree to a 14-day cutoff and may go as far as a 7-day cutoff at most. That was the day after Arum said there were no more issues with testing. However, you won't accept this information because both quoted statements came from stories that appeared on a rival website. It would be easy to find these contradicting statements if you really wanted to find them.
look at this clown. he wants us to spit out and ignore what uncle roger said, "floyd is not fighting pac next." yet he wants us to absorb and digest what ariza said hook line and sinker. this is the same case when koncz mentioned 7 days cut off (which is reasonable if you are normal person), yet they didn't believe him when he broke the news about floyd demanding $100 million relating to the singapore and mandela negotiations.
these flomos are like little kids who want all the toys. pac is juicing. no evidence is needed. he's juicing because i say so. no need to sue either. he's amateurish. he fought nothing but bums. but....... "take the test, pac!" :boxing:
what a bunch of clowns. you guys are embarrassing.
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Well, Ariza and Koncz said he wouldn't, plus Pacquiao already lined up Bradley before his fight with Marquez has even happened.
Also, if you're going to say Pac and Arum are the only people who matter, than Floyd is the only person who matters in his TEAM. And, the last thing we heard from Floyd was that if Manny agrees to testing up until fight day, they can fight.
Koncz even came out back in July and said Pacquiao never agreed to do any testing within 14 days.
Mayweather will NOT wait another year to fight again,he can't afford to. I also like the video, showing the 5 seconds a round that Ortiz had Floyd on the ropes and managed to land 2-3 punches, while the reas of the fight Floyd was hitting Ortiz at will almost.
I am just saying y ou can surely blame Pacquiao for not agreeing to testing. Ariza and Koncz, two of the closest people to Manny, they even say he won't agree to it. What the f**k is going on??? Now he's got a fight with Bradley lined up, even though Sergio agreed to his demand of 150 lbs and after Mayweather has a pretty one-sided showing against Ortiz.
the fight not happening has nothing to do with testing. floyd and manny can make more money fighting lower level fighters because their purse demand is higher, whereas they'd have to split the purse fighting each other
boxing is a business, wish people would realize that
Next for Mayweather,
I expect an easy fight, then after that another easy(sure win). Then if he doesn't retire expect him to take another easy fight.
A Mayweather-Ortiz trilogy is a possibility. Maybe M. Hatton after that.
No they didn't. Show me where they said we won't do it. Plus like I said they don't matter.
Floyds last words were I never said Pac was next.
Is Koncz even part of team Pac anymore with all the bs going on there. Either way he doesnt matter.
How do you know he will not. The only thing he has said since the fight is that he won't rematch Ortiz even though in the ring he said he would. Another contradiction. That wasn't even Ortiz's best landed shots that rd. He stunned Mayweather earlier and made him get a worried look on his face,
Again Pac said he would test, the others dont matter. But since you went there tell me where they said they wouldnt. saying they shouldnt have to isnt saying they wouldnt. Show me a contract where Bradley is fighting Pac in May next year. I havent seen it yet. Why doesnt May fight Sergio?
Whenever Roger or Floyd Mayweather Sr. say anything about Mayweather, you Pac clowns act not only act as if they are speaking on behalf of Floyd Jr., you jump on it as if it is the word of God written in stone. Yet, when someone in Pac's camp says things that are contradictory to what his worshippers want to believe, you make ridiculous excuses such as they don't speak on behalf of Pac, only Arum and Pac do.
Ariza said a few months ago that Pac never agreed to tests without a cut-off date. He said that Pac would only agree to a 14-day cutoff and may go as far as a 7-day cutoff at most. That was the day after Arum said there were no more issues with testing. However, you won't accept this information because both quoted statements came from stories that appeared on a rival website. It would be easy to find these contradicting statementsif you really wanted to find them.
When has a fan ever seen a real boxing contract? This is an asinine request. History tells us what is going to happen. Mosley himself said he had cut a deal to fight Pac a week after Pac fought Margarito, even though Arum claimed he was trying to set up a fight with Mayweather. Margarito stated publicly that he was told by Arum that he was next in line for a Pac fight, even though Arum was supposedly engaging in the second phony negotiation for a Mayweather fight. Now, Arum signs Bradley. Even someone as stupid as a Pactard can read the writing on the wall with that signing. However, a month after signing the Pac/Bradley match, Arum will still claim he is trying to negotiate a fight with Mayweather for Pac's next fight so that he can continue to con Pac's retarded worshipppers.