And making excuses.
Why can't you just give Barker some credit? The guy came to fight & put up a very game effort & executed a very good, smart game-plan & made a real go of it.
I don't even want to hear Sergio had an off-night, took Barker too lightly etc because he fought the same way he always does & was clearly in excellent shape, it's just Barker had clearly done his homework.
Like I said from the start Barker will surprise a lot of people, this fight will not be a walk in the park for Sergio.
Barkers a damn good fighter & he'd beat just about any middleweight IMO with the exception of Sergio & Golovkin.
Sergio was as high as a 1/25 favourite, you have to give Barker some credit for that.
Barker will be back, very proud of my countryman tonight! :
Julio César Chávez was a legend in the making. Already a three-time world champion in the Jr. Lightweight and Lightweight divisions, he brought an impressive undefeated record of 68-0 with 56 wins by knockout. In many ways Chávez was the epitome of the "Mexican" style of boxing. He relentlessly stalked and closed in on the other fighter, ignoring whatever punishment he took for the chance to dish out his own at close range, particularly in the form of a crunching body attack that would either wear down his opponents until they collapsed in pain and exhaustion, or became too tired to defend as Chávez shifted his attack to the head and went for a knockout.
that is a horrible description of Chavez's style. If anything, Chavez focused on defense too much sometimes, which is why he had problems with volume punchers who outhustled him at close range.
I hate it when people call good boxers "bums" when they never even trained before or competed, and all they do is sit behind a computer talking trash. Do you know how hard it is to be where Barker and Sergio are at and how high the competition they faced? All i can tell you is that its not as easy as watching every boxing match on tv pretending you now crap about boxing. Go to a boxing gym and see how hard it is and maybe you guys can give them a little bit more respect.
.............whats the "Mexican fighting style"?
Julio César Chávez was a legend in the making. Already a three-time world champion in the Jr. Lightweight and Lightweight divisions, he brought an impressive undefeated record of 68-0 with 56 wins by knockout. In many ways Chávez was the epitome of the "Mexican" style of boxing. He relentlessly stalked and closed in on the other fighter, ignoring whatever punishment he took for the chance to dish out his own at close range, particularly in the form of a crunching body attack that would either wear down his opponents until they collapsed in pain and exhaustion, or became too tired to defend as Chávez shifted his attack to the head and went for a knockout.
I didn't imply you plagiarized it. I was referring to you using Wikipedia instead of making your own call.
The Mexican fighting style pretty much is being a boxer puncher..QUOTE]
damn, you dont even know your own......im so disappointed in you!
.............whats the "Mexican fighting style"?
I didn't imply you plagiarized it. I was referring to you using Wikipedia instead of making your own call.
The Mexican fighting style pretty much is being a boxer puncher..QUOTE]
damn, you dont even know your own......im so disappointed in you!
Chavez was multidimensional. Sometimes he pressured, other times he counter punched and picked his shots, ie agaisnt Ramirez and Lockridge.
his style was defined not around volume, but about effectively and efficiently cutting off the ring, picking off shots and landing flush and accurate combinations to the head and body.
you can call that whatever term you want to.
sure...but he defiantly didn't spend the majority of his career swarming.
like Puga implies
Chavez was multidimensional. Sometimes he pressured, other times he counter punched and picked his shots, ie agaisnt Ramirez and Lockridge.
his style was defined not around volume, but about effectively and efficiently cutting off the ring, picking off shots and landing flush and accurate combinations to the head and body.
you can call that whatever term you want to.
wtf , i did not use it as my own..i just thik it is basic common knowledge that a person who needs to close the range in order to be effective (like chave sr ) is not a boxer puncher.....if chavez sr was known for his "mexican fighting style"...and mexican fighing style my frined is not being a boxer puncher.....
I didn't imply you plagiarized it. I was referring to you using Wikipedia instead of making your own call.
The Mexican fighting style pretty much is being a boxer puncher..
lol @ you using Wikipedia insted of making your own call
Boxer-puncher
A boxer-puncher is a well-rounded boxer who is able to fight at close range with a combination of technique and power, often with the ability to knock opponents out with a combination and in some instances a single shot. Their movement and tactics are similar to that of an out-fighter (although they are generally not as mobile as an out-fighter), but instead of winning by decision, they tend to wear their opponents down using combinations and then move in to score the knockout. A boxer must be well rounded to be effective using this style.
Notable punchers include Ian Green, Nonito Donaire, Sam Langford, Henry Armstrong, Joe Louis, Sugar Ray Robinson, Tony Zale, Archie Moore, Carlos Monzón Alexis Argüello, Erik Morales, Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko, Julio César Chávez, Oscar de la Hoya, Terry Norris, Marco Antonio Barrera, Manny Pacquiao, Thomas Hearns and Victor Ortiz.
now acknowledge the video I posted or Gtfo
wtf , i did not use it as my own..i just thik it is basic common knowledge that a person who needs to close the range in order to be effective (like chave sr ) is not a boxer puncher.....if chavez sr was known for his "mexican fighting style"...and mexican fighing style my frined is not being a boxer puncher.....
Sergio isn't overrated at all, and only an idiot would say such a thing.
People don't realize how difficult it is to go out and consistently put on dominate performances.
IMO I actually think Barker looked solid and is far from the bum most tried to make him out to be. Is he great.....no.....but definately a solid gatekeeper type fighter.
lol @ you using Wikipedia insted of making your own call
Boxer-puncher
A boxer-puncher is a well-rounded boxer who is able to fight at close range with a combination of technique and power, often with the ability to knock opponents out with a combination and in some instances a single shot. Their movement and tactics are similar to that of an out-fighter (although they are generally not as mobile as an out-fighter), but instead of winning by decision, they tend to wear their opponents down using combinations and then move in to score the knockout. A boxer must be well rounded to be effective using this style.
Notable punchers include Ian Green, Nonito Donaire, Sam Langford, Henry Armstrong, Joe Louis, Sugar Ray Robinson, Tony Zale, Archie Moore, Carlos Monzón Alexis Argüello, Erik Morales, Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko, Julio César Chávez, Oscar de la Hoya, Terry Norris, Marco Antonio Barrera, Manny Pacquiao, Thomas Hearns and Victor Ortiz.
now acknowledge the video I posted or Gtfo
really? :pat: watch the first minute of this fight and never bring up the boxer puncher talking point ever again. It makes you look foolish That was an uber facepalm for your post lol Chavez Snr was a boxer-puncher!
Swarmers/in-fighterIn-fighters/swarmers (sometimes called "pressure fighters") attempt to stay close to an opponent, throwing intense flurries and combinations of hooks and uppercuts. A successful in-fighter often needs a good "chin" because swarming usually involves being hit with many jabs before they can maneuver inside where they are more effective. In-fighters operate best at close range because they are generally shorter and have less reach than their opponents and thus are more effective at a short distance where the longer arms of their opponents make punching awkward. However, several fighters tall for their division have been relatively adept at in-fighting as well as out-fighting. The essence of a swarmer is non-stop aggression. Many short in-fighters utilize their stature to their advantage, employing a bob-and-weave defense by bending at the waist to slip underneath or to the sides of incoming punches. Unlike blocking, causing an opponent to miss a punch disrupts his balance, permits forward movement past the opponent's extended arm and keeps the hands free to counter. A distinct advantage that in-fighters have is when throwing uppercuts where they can channel their entire bodyweight behind the punch; Mike Tyson was famous for throwing devastating uppercuts. Julio César Chávez was known for his hard "chin", punching power, body attack and the stalking of his opponents. Some in-fighters, like Mike Tyson, have been known for being notoriously hard to hit. The key to a swarmer is aggression, endurance, chin, and bobbing-and-weaving.
Notable in-fighters include Laszlo Papp, Mike Tyson, Harry Greb, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Joe Frazier, Jake LaMotta, David Tua, Ricky Hatton and Julio César Chávez.
and dancover, that face palm is for you...:lol1:
he was not mobile...he was a swamer neeeding to close his range in order to be effective....
really? :pat:
watch the first minute of this fight and never bring up the boxer puncher talking point ever again. It makes you look foolish
Chavez Sr was a boxer puncher you imbecile we've been over this, and last time you even admitted to being wrong
again , thank you for proving my point!...lol