"I'm hearing some interesting theories as to why the numbers have not been released. Lets put it that way" per steve kim of max boxing.
What does he mean by this?????
hbo doesnt want to release the numbers cuz they'll be lying to their stock holders. the fight did 500k
I have a feeling you're going to be bombarded with "I told you so's" all day long
There's some God Damn idiots who work in this business...and as evidenced by all the bull**** typed over these numbers, many fans are worse than them...
They can't continue posting after this...repress it and create a new account, garbage fans...
hbo doesnt want to release the numbers cuz they'll be lying to their stock holders. the fight did 500k
I was dying for them to finally come out JUST so you could shut up and stop bumping this thread. Here are the official numbers so you can disappear now.
danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
At long last official PPV numbers announced for @FloydMayweather-@VICIOUSortiz: 1.25 million buys. #boxing
Dude you fail big time.........The fight did well over 1 million.
GIVE IT UP
hbo doesnt want to release the numbers cuz they'll be lying to their stock holders. the fight did 500k
breaking news hopkins vs. dawson ppv # will be released earlier than floyd vs. ortiz bombed ppv
Dude you fail big time.........The fight did well over 1 million.
GIVE IT UP
It's been almost a month since the Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz Star Power pay-per-view and, to the best of my knowledge, not a word has been spoken about the buy rate.
Golden Boy CEO, Richard Schaefer had been speculating 1.7 to 1.8 million, yet the usually loud, quick on the draw promotional partnership of Golden Boy and Mayweather Promotions has yet to even mention the possible numbers behind the show.
Of course, this could have to do with business dealings and/or data collection issues beyond my knowledge, but the likely reason for the strange silence is that the numbers for their split-site showcase were lower than they'd care to admit.
And, given the circumstances and natural order of things, this is to be expected.
There are only so many big fights to be made in the current state of boxing and Mayweather, kept away from Top Rank fighters in a blood feud with Top Rank CEO, Bob Arum, has been frozen out of a good number of fights. So, with a limited pool of fighters from which to choose, it would only stand to reason that "Money" would be out of money fights sooner rather than later.
Manny Pacquiao, despite his immense fan base and media darling status, is likely headed down the same path of diminishing return.
After his upcoming bout with Juan Manuel Marquez on November 12, meaningful fights with big-name fighters and interesting back stories will be extremely hard to come by. As a matter of fact, unless Top Rank finds a way to recycle and re-package past opponents, the pressure will be all on Manny when it comes to selling the fight. And, as we saw with his PPV bout with Joshua Clottey (which sold a modest 700K units), even the great Manny Pacquiao can't sell an entire event on his own.
One question who got cheated? everything was legal didnt the wbc guys tell everyone this or are u such a pactard that u cant get away from your biased opinions of floyd.And u ordered the fight lmao.Money told u thanx but the king of the pactards old gizer cut him off lol.
So now the argument is "2 non Americans?", when that won't work it's "Clottey only has 3 fans?". And when that don't seem to work "There was very little promo", this is Manny we're talkin about man.
From how you guys talk all we need is a date, no promo needed.
Fact is less jobs, less home owners, less PPVs these days. Not to mention the fact that nobody wants to see these guys fight unless it's against eachother PERIOD!!
You guys form a line to check for Floyds PPVs 10-11 days after the fight, but where are the Manny/Marg & Manny/Shane numbers? OFFICIAL NUMBERS.
But when Floyd outsells/outsold Manny it's "PPVs don't mean anything"??????
Clottey/Manny had 50k in the stadium, 20 to 30k were give aways..
850k is not official but a good number considering everything. Plus Floyd can't sell 3 tickets according to the Paklas, so I'd say 850k non official is a blockbuster
stfu... here's a fact.. pac vs. clottey had little promotion. floyd vs. ortiz had blockbuster promotion while still a bust. even margarito 2 yrs after his exile still able to outsold hbo regular victor ortiz
how come showtime still hasnt released the pac mosley numbers, its been how many months now?
every respectable boxing news site like espn maxboxing, yahoo all said 1.3.... meanwhile, all quiet in floyd camp and shafer wouldnt even announce any numbers at all
Considering how much Floyd was guaranteed for this fight and the amount of money spent on the promotion, anything less than 1 million ppv buys would be considered a failure.
850.000*70$=59500000$
+ live gate 9100000$ (official number)
that's 68600000$
this you people call failure??? it was the most expensive ppv also, 17% more expensive than usually. if you consider this into ppv numbers it would be 850k*1,17=994500, so that's just a bit below a million.
Considering how much Floyd was guaranteed for this fight and the amount of money spent on the promotion, anything less than 1 million ppv buys would be considered a failure.
The fact is that GBP and HBO lost money on this fight and were embarrased for putting it on PPV. They are scared to release the numbers cuz if people saw how low it did everyone would go to showtime. And GBP and HBO boxing are barely hanging on by a thread.
Come on, you are talking about two non-americans fighting on US soil, and Clottey has only his immediate family as his fans and i'm not sure if they purchased any ppv. 700k is actually good numbers considering....
So now the argument is "2 non Americans?", when that won't work it's "Clottey only has 3 fans?". And when that don't seem to work "There was very little promo", this is Manny we're talkin about man.
From how you guys talk all we need is a date, no promo needed.
Fact is less jobs, less home owners, less PPVs these days. Not to mention the fact that nobody wants to see these guys fight unless it's against eachother PERIOD!!
You guys form a line to check for Floyds PPVs 10-11 days after the fight, but where are the Manny/Marg & Manny/Shane numbers? OFFICIAL NUMBERS.
But when Floyd outsells/outsold Manny it's "PPVs don't mean anything"??????
Clottey/Manny had 50k in the stadium, 20 to 30k were give aways..
850k is not official but a good number considering everything. Plus Floyd can't sell 3 tickets according to the Paklas, so I'd say 850k non official is a blockbuster