HORUS PRESENTS: Everybody Hates Mayweather, But How about HEADBUTTS & JOE CORTEZ!!

I said it before. Joe should've disqualified Ortiz. There were several headbutts or attempted headbutts by Ortiz. Vic was looking for a way out of the fight without actually getting KO'd. The fight itself was turning into a good fight, and To Mayweathers credit he was giving the fans a fight they wanted to see which was more combinations, and more risk.

I said it before. Joe should've disqualified Ortiz. There were several headbutts or attempted headbutts by Ortiz. Vic was looking for a way out of the fight without actually getting KO'd.

Dana White agrees with you: http://youtu.be/oySKcf6VIag?t=9m15s what are the odds Horus found out about 2 points deducted for headbutts, from Dana White himself awesome video by dana white, especially since he hates mayweather!!

couldnt have said it better. . . . it really pisses me off to no end, i was really enjoying the fight, and I said to myself this ref is always surrounded by drama.

on the real horus i agree with ur points. . . i havent seen such a blatant headbutt in all my time. . . Thats not even the worst part, or the part that made me mad the most. What is being lost in all of this is the fact that Joe Cortez failed to even deduct the correct amount of points that should have been deducted.!! Once again, if Cortez would deducted Ortiz 2 points, and allowed the doctor to come into the ring and check Mayweather's cut in his mouth. I believe the fight would have continued and Mayweather would not have be given the opportunity, to capitalize on Ortiz inexperience. Futhermore, Ortiz would have hopefully stop headbutting, and cheapshoting Mayweather. As a result, we would have got to see what was turning into a action fight.

I agree with most of this. This is the first fight where we saw a little age in Floyd. I'm wondering if it is rust or just age I believe it is both, Mayweather is Past his prime. It is no doubt about it. What makes it worst that he is Past his prime, as well as being inactive!!

HORUS PRESENTS: Everybody Hates Mayweather, But How about HEADBUTTS & JOE CORTEZ!! Sorry for the Wait !!! However, I am at a stage of my life where alot of my attention has to be on other things besides boxingscene.com. However, I hope you guys enjoy my thoughts, and share your thoughts as well in my thread. FACT: Mayweather has fought %60 if his fights, in championship fights FACT: Mayweather has fought 5 times in the last 5 years! FACT: This was a bold and good move by Mayweather to select Victor Ortiz as an opponent Ortiz Lost this fight before it even Happen!!! 'Taking a Break from Training Camp' 1. The first sign I knew Ortiz was going to lose, is when he wanted a break from training camp, while his opponent Floyd Mayweather Jr. was in Las Vegas having 3 training camps per day. When I saw that, I told myself Ortiz is already quiting on this fight!!!! "Ortiz letting Floyd intimidate and choke him." 2. Very the very get go, Ortiz was in submission to Mayweather. He address Mayweather as "Mr.Mayweather" as if he was Mayweather's subordinate, or student. He and his was constantly trying to find ways to build his confidence, bringing in Oscar De la hoya to give him advice on how winnable this fight is, and that Mayweather is not that scary. But the ultimate sign of Submission was Ortiz allowing Mayweather to CHOKE him in front of the entire world of people who were watching the weigh in. From then on, I knew Ortiz was in full ***** mode, and he was there to be fed to the Lions so to speak. Joe Cortez Needs to be FIRED!!! Joe Cortez let this fight get out of hand from the very get go. Ortiz from round 1 was headbutting and fouling and Cortez refused to be "FAIR BUT FIRM." Furthermore, when the Ultimate foul happen, which was a intentional headbutt which cut open Mayweather lip. Joe Cortez failed to even deduct the correct amount of points that should have been deducted. If Joe Cortez would have done his job that night, we boxing fans would have seen what I thought was about to be Mayweather-Gatti 2!! Or at least Ortiz pushing Mayweather to his limit, and forcing Mayweather to either throw combos and fihgt, and get overwhelm with volume punching. THE BIGGEST MISTAKE CORTEZ MADE!!! The biggest mistake Cortez made during this whole fight, was not following the rules of intentional fouls. Intentional fouls Rules 1. If an intentional foul causes an injury, and the injury is severe enough to terminate the bout immediately, the boxer causing the injury shall lose by disqualification. 2. If an intentional foul causes an injury and the bout is allowed to continue, the referee will notify the authorities and deduct (2) points from the boxer who caused the foul. Point deductions for intentional fouls will be mandatory. 3.If an intentional foul causes an injury and the injury results in the bout being stopped in a latter round, the injured boxer will win by TECHNICAL DECISION if he is ahead on the score cards or the bout will result in a TECHNICAL DRAW if the injured boxer is behind or even on the score cards. If Cortez would deducted Ortiz 2 points, and allowed the doctor to come into the ring and check Mayweather's cut in his mouth. I believe the fight would have continued and Mayweather would not have be given the opportunity, to capitalize on Ortiz inexperience. Futhermore, Ortiz would have hopefully stop headbutting, and cheapshoting Mayweather. As a result, we would have got to see what was turning into a action fight. My Personal Thoughts Overall Of The Fight "Disappointed in the ending" I was personally satisfied with the outcome of the fight, but however I was not to happy how the fight ended. The fight ended in a way, that ultimately did not live up to the standard of a megafight. "Victor Ortiz is WEAK " Victor Ortiz showed that he has alot of growing up to do as a person and a fighter. He is out of control, and he is going to get himself or someone else seriously hurt. The guy is just weird, he has this happy go lucky sufer boy attitude that seems so fake to me. Overall, he has too much talent to have that weak of a mentality. 'No Young Great Fighters that can beat Mayweather like in other eras' Floyd Mayweather is past his prime, and his age is starting to show. He is lucky he fights in this era, and a young terry norris is not around to do him like he did Sugar Ray Leonard. "Mayweather not using 100% of his talent and skill" What makes Mayweather great is that he understands the basic of boxing better than anyone he has ever fought, or will fight. Mayweather is winning these fights by using only 70% of his true talent, and it is a shame that we are at a point of his career that we will never know what Mayweather using 100% of his talent and Skill looks like. Floyd Mayweather is my favorite fight, howeever as a fan I feel cheated that I can honestly say only once in his career I have seen him used 100% of him using his talent and skill! TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK!!! I agree with most of this. This is the first fight where we saw a little age in Floyd. I'm wondering if it is rust or just age

Good thoughts Horus, even though the same Norris that beat SRL would get UD'd by May right now. Post more often. EXCLUSIVE THREAD: PBF FANS ONLY!! Name 1 Fighter and Why who Could Beat MAYWEATHER!! http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=420331&highlight=terry+norris Name 1 Fighter that could have beat Floyd. 154: Terry Norris Basically Terry Norris was too much of a monster in this division. Plain and Simple. Floyd Would have to have the night of his life to beat Norris at 154 and he still would take punishment in the process.. I seriously believe this.. If Mosley could buckle floyd like he did in the 2nd round.. My God.. Norris would end **** quick. Just watch the John Mugabi fight. I mean Damn look what Norris did too Meldrick Taylor when they fought... I honestly believe Mayweather would have need to have the best night of his life to beat Norris at 154 in both of their primes. I am soley basing this of their attributes and skill set.. How about you guys, pick one fight and why..

HORUS!!! hahaha one of my main inspirations for joining boxingscene!! HAHAH after I saw your thread about "mayweather buying a yacht" = INVESTMENT I couldn't HELP MYSELF but to join in on this **** show. . . . I knew I would have fun! and i haven't look back since! HAHAHA!! HORUS! HORUS! HORUS! lol, those were the days.

Lol..was wondering where he was............... Living life, being happy. However, whats good Larry. What do you think about the point I made about Joe Cortez!! About How If Cortez would deducted Ortiz 2 points, and allowed the doctor to come into the ring and check Mayweather's cut in his mouth. I believe the fight would have continued and Mayweather would not have be given the opportunity, to capitalize on Ortiz inexperience. Futhermore, Ortiz would have hopefully stop headbutting, and cheapshoting Mayweather. As a result, we would have got to see what was turning into a action fight.

good points IMO

Which fight was that? Diego C. Mayweather Best Performance to date!

P Floyd Mayweather is my favorite fight, howeever as a fan I feel cheated that I can honestly say only once in his career I have seen him used 100% of him using his talent and skill! Which fight was that?

Lol..was wondering where he was...............

ok.................

Think about what? The points I made in my thread!

Good thoughts Horus, even though the same Norris that beat SRL would get UD'd by May right now. Post more often.

The Fight itself brought alot of attention to the sport, and the drama in the fight I believe did more good for boxing than bad. Victor Ortiz for better or for worst was introduce to the world in this fight. Going forward he can used this experience to build his name even more. If he fights Pacquiao hopefully he doesnt foul the fight up and give us fans an exciting fight! But I think the next move for Ortiz is Berto, than Khan or Pacquiao!!

HORUS PRESENTS: Everybody Hates Mayweather, But How about HEADBUTTS & JOE CORTEZ!! Sorry for the Wait !!! However, I am at a stage of my life where alot of my attention has to be on other things besides boxingscene.com. However, I hope you guys enjoy my thoughts, and share your thoughts as well in my thread. FACT: Mayweather has fought %60 if his fights, in championship fights FACT: Mayweather has fought 5 times in the last 5 years! FACT: This was a bold and good move by Mayweather to select Victor Ortiz as an opponent Ortiz Lost this fight before it even Happen!!! 'Taking a Break from Training Camp' 1. The first sign I knew Ortiz was going to lose, is when he wanted a break from training camp, while his opponent Floyd Mayweather Jr. was in Las Vegas having 3 training camps per day. When I saw that, I told myself Ortiz is already quiting on this fight!!!! "Ortiz letting Floyd intimidate and choke him." 2. Very the very get go, Ortiz was in submission to Mayweather. He address Mayweather as "Mr.Mayweather" as if he was Mayweather's subordinate, or student. He and his was constantly trying to find ways to build his confidence, bringing in Oscar De la hoya to give him advice on how winnable this fight is, and that Mayweather is not that scary. But the ultimate sign of Submission was Ortiz allowing Mayweather to CHOKE him in front of the entire world of people who were watching the weigh in. From then on, I knew Ortiz was in full ***** mode, and he was there to be fed to the Lions so to speak. Joe Cortez Needs to be FIRED!!! Joe Cortez let this fight get out of hand from the very get go. Ortiz from round 1 was headbutting and fouling and Cortez refused to be "FAIR BUT FIRM." Furthermore, when the Ultimate foul happen, which was a intentional headbutt which cut open Mayweather lip. Joe Cortez failed to even deduct the correct amount of points that should have been deducted. If Joe Cortez would have done his job that night, we boxing fans would have seen what I thought was about to be Mayweather-Gatti 2!! Or at least Ortiz pushing Mayweather to his limit, and forcing Mayweather to either throw combos and fihgt, and get overwhelm with volume punching. THE BIGGEST MISTAKE CORTEZ MADE!!! The biggest mistake Cortez made during this whole fight, was not following the rules of intentional fouls. Intentional fouls Rules 1. If an intentional foul causes an injury, and the injury is severe enough to terminate the bout immediately, the boxer causing the injury shall lose by disqualification. 2. If an intentional foul causes an injury and the bout is allowed to continue, the referee will notify the authorities and deduct (2) points from the boxer who caused the foul. Point deductions for intentional fouls will be mandatory. 3.If an intentional foul causes an injury and the injury results in the bout being stopped in a latter round, the injured boxer will win by TECHNICAL DECISION if he is ahead on the score cards or the bout will result in a TECHNICAL DRAW if the injured boxer is behind or even on the score cards. If Cortez would deducted Ortiz 2 points, and allowed the doctor to come into the ring and check Mayweather's cut in his mouth. I believe the fight would have continued and Mayweather would not have be given the opportunity, to capitalize on Ortiz inexperience. Futhermore, Ortiz would have hopefully stop headbutting, and cheapshoting Mayweather. As a result, we would have got to see what was turning into a action fight. My Personal Thoughts Overall Of The Fight "Disappointed in the ending" I was personally satisfied with the outcome of the fight, but however I was not to happy how the fight ended. The fight ended in a way, that ultimately did not live up to the standard of a megafight. "Victor Ortiz is WEAK " Victor Ortiz showed that he has alot of growing up to do as a person and a fighter. He is out of control, and he is going to get himself or someone else seriously hurt. The guy is just weird, he has this happy go lucky sufer boy attitude that seems so fake to me. Overall, he has too much talent to have that weak of a mentality. 'No Young Great Fighters that can beat Mayweather like in other eras' Floyd Mayweather is past his prime, and his age is starting to show. He is lucky he fights in this era, and a young terry norris is not around to do him like he did Sugar Ray Leonard. "Mayweather not using 100% of his talent and skill" What makes Mayweather great is that he understands the basic of boxing better than anyone he has ever fought, or will fight. Mayweather is winning these fights by using only 70% of his true talent, and it is a shame that we are at a point of his career that we will never know what Mayweather using 100% of his talent and Skill looks like. Floyd Mayweather is my favorite fight, howeever as a fan I feel cheated that I can honestly say only once in his career I have seen him used 100% of him using his talent and skill! TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK!!! Sigh, thats a lot of letters...BRB.