Mayweather-Ortiz...No rematch!!!

Floyd definitely said he would rematch...BUT I think that was in the heat of the moment. Would a rematch be good for floyd, Ortiz, the fans, or all of the above?...for the sake of seeing Floyd in the ring sooner than later, I would say f*@k it, rematch...but I honestly don't think its worth all the ppv stuff again. Ortiz didn't show me anything that leads me to believe he has anymore of a chance 2nd time around.

Actually, in round 2 they had Floyd landing 13 power shots to Victor's 8, and that Ortiz' best round. you're in the ring, good for you...so I guess you know more than the professionals that follow professional boxing??? I scored round 2 as an even round. Where exactly did you see Victor landing all these punches??? i saw Floyd landing straight rights all night long. Even when the 4th round started, he threw a couple 4-5 punch combo's, and Ortiz was like "What the f**k do I do now???". Just because Ortiz got him on the ropes for about 5 seconds a few times doesn't mean he was landing man. Why else do you think he threw a headbutt??? Because even when he was "coming on" at the end of round 4, how many of those punches landed??? 2, 3 at the most, where as Floyd had already landed over 20 times in that round. If you're being completely honest about the fight and not hating on Mayweather, he was clearly winning the fight and landing far more often, and he hadn't even fought in 16 months, and he was fighting a prime fighter who out weighed him by 14 lbs on fight night. You gotta admit, Floyd looked pretty good. Also, go cry me a river about illegal punches to knock out Ortiz. Since you're in the ring, when the ref motions you back to the center of the ring and says "lets go", do you apologize again and look toward the ref??? NO. Also, Victor was leaning in with his head all night, making contact with Floyd's chin. Go watch the fight. Also, watch out for Victor's rabbitt punches that were hitting Floyd on the back of his head. If you don't count the rabbitt punches that Ortiz landed, which was about 6-7, he landed like 20 punches. Damn, he was coming on and winning the fight. Floyd also out worked him, which is funny because Floyd never out works anyone in a fight anymore. we have an opportunity right here to look at this objectively, The referee has three universal commands, Stop, Break and Box, he never instructed them to Box, sayin lets go and motioning with his hands to me looked like he was tellin them to touch gloves. Now you also never heard him call time in, so again there are two **** ups there, when time is in supposed to usher the offending boxer to his corner have the Dr look at Floyd which he did, but he must do this in this exact order. Secure a safe distance between both fighters, (neutral corner) Signal the time keeper to start time, and command the fighters to box... He did not do that. did you know that Joe Cortez also lost his mother that night? the man clearly was not fit to be the third man in the ring that night. Regarding the rabbit punches Floyd always turns his head away on the inside and if a fighter is throwing when Floyd does that its not a foul However lets just stick to the rules of the sport, regarding this.... Now you dont need to add Floyds lay off to the arguement as it has no relevance to the rules nor do we need to look at how good Floyd looked in there that has nothing to do with the rules. What we need to look at is exactly what Cortez did and did not do.... when he called time there was 10 seconds left in the round, when he said lets go and he did, an apology to Floyd, two hugs and two cheap shots and a full count to 10.... What you DID NOT hear was the bell to end the round, NO I am not saying you can be saved by the bell, I am saying if time really was in, you would have heard the bell to end the 4th round.... think about it Time was called with 10 seconds left.... You had the hugs and the cheap shots and a full ten count No bell to end the round...... Was time really in or is Joe Cortez covering his ass....

"mayweather, did you ever hear Cortez tell you to continue fighting"? Mayweather's answer, "I was told protect yourself at all times" sucker puncher

retard??? Damn that hurt. I guess you missed the first 2:00 of round 4. It's always the same. Floyd haters focus so hard on the 0:20 a round that his opponent might have him on the ropes and they thriw wildy, while most punches are landing on his arms or shoulders, or completely missing, and they don't wanna pay attention to the other 2:40 where Floyd is popping his opponent with straight rights and counters. You guys have your opinions and I can respect that. GENESIS tried to come hard and call someone a retard...man you're real mature and that just hurt my feelings so bad. Maybe you should come apologize to me 3-4 times and try and hug me, right???? I at least repsect BAZOOKA or whatever. At least he's been in the ring. We just have a difference of opinion on how the fight was playing out. He didn't come in all hard and say "Retard" like tough guy Genesis or whatever. Floyd was winning the fight clearly, about 99% of the world says this and thinks this, while 1% knows he was winning but want to say Ortiz was warming up. Again I will state this just becusae your winning rounds officially yes you are ahead in the fight, but there was 8 rounds left, and again if you paid any attention to Floyds post fight presser, you would see that even he in his own words did not hear Cortez say anything. The referees job is in question here as he is at fault. However there is a code of conduct the ref is responsible to follow under the unified rules of the ABC, and those are federal meaning the higher ups are allowing this fight to be wrongfully ruled a KO. The reality is when I expose those rules, the Floyd fans do not dare discuss the rules. Now how are you going to say your a fan of the sport, when you will not even discuss the rules? is this because Floyds involved here? so that would make you not a fan of the sport but a fan of Mayweather. But please dont come here and tell people they dont know **** about Boxing when you dont have the balls to look at the rules and admit what happend in that fight was clearly wrong. and please I dont need your respect because of me being in the ring, I am telling you that simply because through the eyes of a fighter, you are not going to hear the same thing that fan boys say.... Again This was not a no land slide beating Floyd was putting on, this was a fight in which Floyd was getting rounds, but was also missing shots you dont see him miss and getting hit with shots you never see him getting hit with and against a fighter this young with this kind of power and a point to prove. In my eyes Mayweather did not care if he was DQd, he got lucky that Cortez is as ****ed up as he is. in addition Floyd stated he can get a rematch...... now retracts that, right there that should tell you exactly what Floyd thinks of Ortiz. Controversy sells, the rematch would sell, Floyd made 40 million the first fight he will atleast match that, so whats the problem? thats good money to fight Ortiz in a rematch and you know the controversy from this fight will sell..... Again its makes dollars, it should make sense right? But Floyd seems to not have any interest in the fight, meaning he doesnt want to find out what it would have been like to go deep in the fight with Ortiz

Yes he did accuse Ortiz of begging. http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content10835.htmlWell if it aint begging lets call it crying, is that better:loser:

I have no interests in seeing this fight again, but I know for a fact that Floyd told Larry Merchant something like "If Victor wants a rematch, we can do it again". So why is he now accusing Vic of begging? Welcome to the wrld where Floyd contradicts himself.

I have no interests in seeing this fight again, but I know for a fact that Floyd told Larry Merchant something like "If Victor wants a rematch, we can do it again". So why is he now accusing Vic of begging?Yup but who's gonna pay to see it, get over it. If it makes dollars it makes sense, if not drop it. The same people screaming "Rematch" are the same people that 1. Want to see Floyd lose & 2. So called wasn't gonna support the fight in the first place. So why would you wanna see a replay of 4 rounds that lasts for 12? Get over it

Quit using compubox you stupid fucking retard. Compubox: Ortiz Threw 37 punches in rd4. go count for me. Compubox: May landed 26 shots in rd 4. go count that too. After that come back and try to use compubox as an argument. retard??? Damn that hurt. I guess you missed the first 2:00 of round 4. It's always the same. Floyd haters focus so hard on the 0:20 a round that his opponent might have him on the ropes and they thriw wildy, while most punches are landing on his arms or shoulders, or completely missing, and they don't wanna pay attention to the other 2:40 where Floyd is popping his opponent with straight rights and counters. You guys have your opinions and I can respect that. GENESIS tried to come hard and call someone a retard...man you're real mature and that just hurt my feelings so bad. Maybe you should come apologize to me 3-4 times and try and hug me, right???? I at least repsect BAZOOKA or whatever. At least he's been in the ring. We just have a difference of opinion on how the fight was playing out. He didn't come in all hard and say "Retard" like tough guy Genesis or whatever. Floyd was winning the fight clearly, about 99% of the world says this and thinks this, while 1% knows he was winning but want to say Ortiz was warming up.

What else is new with this king of contradictions. He offered a rematch on national tv and now he's denying he ever offered it. What a clown. Thing about this arrogant fvck is he has so many preconditions as if he's some fvcking god or something. ;-)

What's new its Floyd the fuken pathological liar and the undisputed king of contradiction? He even admitted on a video that he'll say everything the public wants to hear.

He didnt accuse Ortiz of begging for 1 2, Oscar is the one talking about a rematch 3, Ortiz dont want 1 he quit. So waste of thread Yes he did accuse Ortiz of begging. http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content10835.html

He didnt accuse Ortiz of begging for 1 2, Oscar is the one talking about a rematch 3, Ortiz dont want 1 he quit. So waste of thread

I have no interests in seeing this fight again, but I know for a fact that Floyd told Larry Merchant something like "If Victor wants a rematch, we can do it again". So why is he now accusing Vic of begging? And everyone in the business does it, but "Yesterday I was lying, today I'm telling the truth.."

HBO on the PPV non edited edition, shows Mayweather landin 13 power shots in round two, Get the **** out of here with that **** and Ortiz only landing like 3 shots are you serious? and Lederman gave Ortiz round 2, doest that ****ing make any sense? Actually, in round 2 they had Floyd landing 13 power shots to Victor's 8, and that Ortiz' best round. you're in the ring, good for you...so I guess you know more than the professionals that follow professional boxing??? I scored round 2 as an even round. Where exactly did you see Victor landing all these punches??? i saw Floyd landing straight rights all night long. Even when the 4th round started, he threw a couple 4-5 punch combo's, and Ortiz was like "What the f**k do I do now???". Just because Ortiz got him on the ropes for about 5 seconds a few times doesn't mean he was landing man. Why else do you think he threw a headbutt??? Because even when he was "coming on" at the end of round 4, how many of those punches landed??? 2, 3 at the most, where as Floyd had already landed over 20 times in that round. If you're being completely honest about the fight and not hating on Mayweather, he was clearly winning the fight and landing far more often, and he hadn't even fought in 16 months, and he was fighting a prime fighter who out weighed him by 14 lbs on fight night. You gotta admit, Floyd looked pretty good. Also, go cry me a river about illegal punches to knock out Ortiz. Since you're in the ring, when the ref motions you back to the center of the ring and says "lets go", do you apologize again and look toward the ref??? NO. Also, Victor was leaning in with his head all night, making contact with Floyd's chin. Go watch the fight. Also, watch out for Victor's rabbitt punches that were hitting Floyd on the back of his head. If you don't count the rabbitt punches that Ortiz landed, which was about 6-7, he landed like 20 punches. Damn, he was coming on and winning the fight. Floyd also out worked him, which is funny because Floyd never out works anyone in a fight anymore.

Now wasnt it Floyd who offered Ortiz a rematch? I have no interests in seeing this fight again, but I know for a fact that Floyd told Larry Merchant something like "If Victor wants a rematch, we can do it again". So why is he now accusing Vic of begging?

Quit using compubox you stupid fucking retard. Compubox: Ortiz Threw 37 punches in rd4. go count for me. Compubox: May landed 26 shots in rd 4. go count that too. After that come back and try to use compubox as an argument. HBO on the PPV non edited edition, shows Mayweather landin 13 power shots in round two, Get the **** out of here with that **** and Ortiz only landing like 3 shots are you serious? and Lederman gave Ortiz round 2, doest that ****ing make any sense?

So...one judge had it 2-1 Mayweather and the other two had it 3-0 Mayweather. And, Mayweather dominated the first 2:00 of round 4, and Ortiz got him ont he ropes twice for about 5 seconds eacht he last 0:50 and landed 4-5 punches...and that was winning him round 4???? Also, lets not forget about the boxing analysts and boxing insiders who even said after the fight that Ortiz was out classed. I had the fight 2-0-1 (30-28)going into the 4th, and Ortiz was being docked a point for headbutting, and the 4th would have been a 10-8 for Floyd (40-36). Punch stats don't mean anything???? Than they wouldn't keep them if they didn't. Floyd landed 35% of his punches and 44% of his power punches, while Ortiz landed 18% of his punches and 22% of his power punches (the guy only lands power shots and nothing else). Floyd landed 73 punches to 26 punches, and 65 power punches to 26 power punches. Ortiz hit Mayweather ont he back of his head 6-7 times and leaned in with his head throughout making contact with Floyds face. Man, you Floyd haters are all the same. I could care less what the writers say, seriously alot of them are Flomos just like you, they are going to tell their version of the story that doesnt make it the truth. Again punch stats is nothing more than two guys with buttons counting thrown and landed shots, how accurate can those guys be? lets be ****ing real they are on one side of the ring and again may very well be biased in favor of the star fighter and alot of times those guys are drinking at the fights. its okay you have your version of what you saw, I am calling it how I see it, being that I have been in the ring myself, being that I currently work with fighters, I think its safe to say that just because you may be winning rounds, it does not mean your dominating the fight. in this sport we have what you call game plan, and I beleive Victors plan was to force a high paced fight which he did, Floyd threw 208 shots according to you and Compubox, had 8 more rounds left should the Illegal cheap shot that was ruled legal never happend. and I do not believe he could have maintained that pace, and I do beleive Victors plan was to turn it on in the mid rounds.... Floyd knew that to, thats why he as he said in his own words did not hear Cortez call time in, and what goes around comes around, Floyd knew he could have been DQ'd there in his own words, came out lucky his daddy cortez sold out for him, but clearly he looked for a way out and found it, and now after saying he can get a rematch look at the actions of a man who dominated this kid? the money he genorated from the 1st fight, he could make more as controversy does sell, and since is supposed to be easy money, easy work why are we ducking a rematch? Perhaps thats because like Pacquiao you dont think you can pull out even an ortiz win at this point. Thats what he is showing us....

Good no one cares

not that i want to see a rematch but what happened to 'if Ortiz wants a rematch, he can get it' we all know floyd says whatever he is thinking. at the time he was thinking rematch, because of the boos, now he isn't.

Floyd talkin outta his ass again when he said Victor can get a rematch If I was Victor Ortiz I would sue his ass for breach of verbal contract which he said live on TV I know that a Pacquiao fan isn't talking about dodging a rematch right??? Your boy waited 4 years to give Barrera a rematch, 4 years to give Marquez a 2nd fight, and than another 3 1/2 years to give Marquez a 3rd fight. Floyd's only controversial win, Mayweather-Castillo 1, he gave a latter-prime Castillo an immediate rematch and won convincingly. I am just saying man...nobody except for Floyd haters want to see a Mayweather-Ortiz fight again. Mayweather is clearly the better fighter, and like Atlas said...."If you're being honest, it was all Mayweather. And without the headbutt, you don't get the knockout in the 4th round". Trust me on this....If Mayweather agreed to give Ortiz a rematch next spring, EVERYONE would say "he's cherry picking Victor because he already knows he can out class him. He's avoiding Manny". You know it man.