I noticed that Hopkins, Calzaghe, Jones Jr, Marquez, Mosley and all other fighters not named Pacquiao or Mayweather do horrible on ppv buys. In the last 4 years the top 3 ppv buys that did not involve pacquiao or mayweather were
1. Cotto vs mosley = 500k
2. Cotto vs margarito = 450k
3. Cotto vs Mayorga = 250k
If this is true and please let me know if there was a ppv with higher numbers not involving pac or mayweather how much ppv buys will the rematch with margarito 2 get and even though he is not a top ten p4p fighter what is the reason why mayweather or pacquiao wont fight him as it seems like he is biggest draw besides them.
Some? Most of the PPV buys were from the West Coast.
You fail to forget that the fights were shown free in Mexico. You could basically flip to a spanish channel on here and watch the fights.
Now you're turning this into Cotto vs Margarito like hardcore.
Cotto is all business.
I dont know the official numbers for their rematch, but Tony is earning peanuts compared to Miguel.
And that's what I'm saying....MAYBE you guys are rushing into thinking that. I may be wrong or I may be right.
Cotto with Mosley did like 325k because of Mosley's name. Cotto with Margarito did over 450k because he had a popular dance partner as well. Not because it was just Cotto. Feel me?
Cotto-Mosley did 360K. Cotto-Margarito did 450K because Cotto was staring to go mainstream after his win over Mosley and the fact that public saw him as Mayweather equal the one Mayweather ducked. Yes Margarito brought some Mexican fans but they were not that many just look at Margarito's PPV numbers he ain't **** the dude bearly did 15K vs Garcia in his comeback fight.
Cotto is been the A side and recieved the biggest share of the money on every fight except the Pacquiao fight. and let's not forget that to date the Cotto fight is been Pacquiao's biggest payday and his biggest numbers on PPV.
Here are the accurate Cotto career PPV numbers
Cotto-Malignaggi, 150K
Cotto-Judah, 225K
Cotto-Mosley, 360K
Cotto-Margarito, 450K
Cotto-Jennings, 200K
Cotto-Pacquiao, 1.25 Million
Cotto-Mayorga, 250K
Cotto has other Top Rank PPV against guys like Maussa and Bazan I believe but I can't find those numbers. In the rematch with Margarito I expect from 500K to 800K.
Here are Marquez PPV numbers
Marquez-Diaz II,150K
Marquez-Mayweather, 1 million
Marquez-Casamayor, Less Than 100K according To Dan Rafael
Marquez-Pacquiao II, 400K
Marquez-Barrera, 225K
Marquez-Pacquiao I, 200K
The only time Marquez was the A side on PPV he did 150K vs Diaz and less than 100K vs Casamayor.
And that's what I'm saying....MAYBE you guys are rushing into thinking that. I may be wrong or I may be right.
Cotto with Mosley did like 325k because of Mosley's name. Cotto with Margarito did over 450k because he had a popular dance partner as well. Not because it was just Cotto. Feel me?
OK and how many PPV's did these guys have right before he fought them?
I mean of course it has to be a popular dancing partner, otherwise it wouldnt be PPV.
If you remove PAc or Floyd out of the equation, he is easily 3rd. Otherwise Marg-Mosley would have done good PPV numbers too
Well without Pac, Cotto as well doesn't look to be all that in PPVs.
Compared to Pac and Floyd, but he destroys anybody else's number outta the water.....That is the point of this thread, Cotto being #3
I don't know. I think if you add Marquez's total numbers, he outdoes Cotto. I might be wrong.
Thats if you add his numbers against Pac and Floyd
Otherwise he is nowhere close
not sure, but i hope his rematch with margarito does well. that's a fight that could make casual fans be regular fans.
and lol at pacquiao ducking cotto :lol1:
Cotto-Mosley did 330k if I remember correctly. Somewhat disappointing but still not too bad for a guy that hardly speaks English headlining his 2nd PPV.
Cotto is the 3rd biggest draw in America. Not only does he do respectable PPV numbers but when he fights on WCB's he also does some of the highest ratings. And he can draw at the gate in Vegas and in NY.
I noticed that Hopkins, Calzaghe, Jones Jr, Marquez, Mosley and all other fighters not named Pacquiao or Mayweather do horrible on ppv buys. In the last 4 years the top 3 ppv buys that did not involve pacquiao or mayweather were
1. Cotto vs mosley = 500k
2. Cotto vs margarito = 450k
3. Cotto vs Mayorga = 250k
If this is true and please let me know if there was a ppv with higher numbers not involving pac or mayweather how much ppv buys will the rematch with margarito 2 get and even though he is not a top ten p4p fighter what is the reason why mayweather or pacquiao wont fight him as it seems like he is biggest draw besides them.
lmao............
Pacquiao I meant in a rematch. Yall are such smart asses lol. So what figures did cotto vs mosley do then. I like cotto ever since the torres brawl but surprused he does such well numbers.
what would the point be in a rematch?
If anything i would go ape**** and forever troll the pacfans if such a fight was ever scheduled.
Pacquiao I meant in a rematch. Yall are such smart asses lol. So what figures did cotto vs mosley do then. I like cotto ever since the torres brawl but surprused he does such well numbers.
Right cause after seeing the 1st fight one desperately wants to see a rematch? You really must hate Cotto to want a Pac rematch :lol1:
I re searched number and cotto vs mosley was 400k. So that gives him 450, 400 and 250k. The next highest were jones vs calzaghe at 250k marquez diaz 2 at 200k. So with ease he is 3rd biggest draw in the USA having the top 3 ppv buys not involving pacquiao or mayweather
I dont think they should rematch and I dont think alot of pacquiao and mayweather opponenets should happen. But they dont care and neither do the promoters its about what makes the most money not what fans are happy with. Even though Cotto is not a top ten fighter at this moment besides them fighting each other if cotto wins his next fioght there is no one else who can bring in hte numbers that he will. I think pac beats him again in rmeatch and mayweather outboxes him. But that has nothing to do with the money part.
About the Pacquiao vs Cotto rematch. A lot of people don't want to see.
They absolutely believe that if Pacquiao and Cotto fight 100 times. Pacquiao takes Cotto's soul 100 times. I don't see anything wrong with it as a fan of Pacquiao but I think differently than most.
I think Pacquiao vs Cotto in 154lbs is a different story. It'll be a grueling slugfest just like the Pacquiao vs Margarito fight. The pendulum in this fight can swing both ways for either fighter winning the fight.
This sorta' makes me feel like a mainstream fan, as the only fights we order over here are ones involving either Pacquiao, Mayweather, or Cotto.
I DO watch friday night fights and Showtime/HBO regularly. So it's not as if I'm ONLY watching their fights.
If I had more money, I'd be shelling out for Hopkins/Dawson and Pacquiao/Márquez III, but we're saving for Cotto/Margarito II... :luvbed:
I say that, but I'm PRETTY sure I'm going to end up going broke by ordering Pacquiao/Márquez III.
Pacquiao I meant in a rematch. Yall are such smart asses lol. So what figures did cotto vs mosley do then. I like cotto ever since the torres brawl but surprused he does such well numbers.
Why would he rematch him? he already destroyed him
Man dude is getting owned in his own thread... No biggie though...
On a limb without factual numbers I say he is the 3rd biggest draw...
This Cotto-Marg II is going to be huge though would be highly surprised if it does less than 800k or so...
Pacquiao I meant in a rematch. Yall are such smart asses lol. So what figures did cotto vs mosley do then. I like cotto ever since the torres brawl but surprused he does such well numbers.
Why would there be a rematch? And, I doubt he doesn't want to give Pac a rematch.
And, Cotto-Mosley did have of what you claim...The numbers were disappointing