With all the BS floating around I've come to the conclusion, Manny is stuck with Top Rank.
This is just a short list of the things that lead me to this, in no particular order
1 Manny suddenly hires an accounting firm (Vision Quest) to look into how he's being paid.
When Manny did this, did you notice a sense of ergency on Bobs part?
He seemed to be very uncomfortable with them snooping around. All of a sudden Koncz is on a plane to see Manny, rumors of VQ being fired swirled/denied then confirmed.
From what I've read VQ found out mannys shyt was in shambles, shoe box files, no real order or any way of tracking real ammounts paid/owed to Manny.
They even found out that Koncz was employed by Top Rank.
Koncz is there to protect manny from being taken advantage of not only from outside sharks, but also he's there to protect manny from Top Rank. So why is he also employed by Bob?
Now this part really got me..
manny hiring VQ was a good move, but Mannys next move puzzled me.
He fires VQ then hires a firm that was recommened by Bob Arum? Why would he do that, VQ had no ties to TR so I assume they'd be looking out for mannys best interest more than a firm that has ties to the company they're investigating.
My guess is, Bob has dirt on Manny (i could only imagine what that dirt is). It seems manny has sold his soul to Bob, Bob knows a lil too much about manny and manny allowed Bob to have too much control for too long.
Point blank, manny better shut the F up or Bob would crush him. manny is stuck
What an imagination....whew....very "nose-holding". You should be writing scripts for a Hollywood studio. Every past posters' garbage you gather together and publish as "fact"......Wha part of this is imagination? 99% of what I'm saying is documented facts. Have you been paying attention?
has 0 to do with floyd...boxing fans hate to see boxers getting ripped off
i'm just saying this is the last thing to focus on considering these boxers are not getting any younger. if you're hoping that pac will leave arum any time sooner, good luck. in the meantime the clock is ticking. the fight is moving farther and farther away from happening as time goes by.
make it happen for the fans, for the love of the sport, for the glory of beating the best. everything else should be less important.
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why would a flomo care?
do you think your god floyd really cares?
are you that stupid not to see that it's just another roadblock by floyd?
what a lucky guy floyd is with his loyal followers.
but dumb flomos actually think they're helping floyd, who is already being labeled a duck and a coward left and right. floyd is not getting any younger homies. if floyd doesn't start negotiating a couple of weeks from now (post jmm/pac trilogy), i don't see this fight happening ever. arum/pac will wait a couple of days for floyd and if floyd does nothing they'll announce their next fight. months and months will go by, a non-floyd fight happens, then pac retires most likely.
floyd stays being labeled a duck for the rest of his life. and you guys want this? man that's not love. that's false love.
:bigeyes:
has 0 to do with floyd...boxing fans hate to see boxers getting ripped off
and don't worry arum will announce pac's next fight before the marquez fight, to avoid any chances of pac-floyd talks.don't know your relation to floyd personally, but you seem very serious in defending him as if he's some helpless guy who needs tender loving support. floyd is his own boss, bud. he can make this fight happen at the snap of his fingers. he just doesn't want to. man, you treat floyd as if he's some little child or something.
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What kills me about Pac fans - ABSOLUTELY KILLS ME - is that everyone even remotely associated with Pacquiao gets a pass simply because of association with Manny. Even if they are fukkin Manny dry.
If you love Manny so much, shouldn't you be saying "Damn, Manny. That Arum dude does seem mad shady. Leave him".
But they defend Arum, who is prison-raping their favourite fighter and national hero.
THAT SH!T IS ANTITHETICAL TO GOOD LOGIC.
What an imagination....whew....very "nose-holding". You should be writing scripts for a Hollywood studio. Every past posters' garbage you gather together and publish as "fact"......
YEAH?
Point out something that he wrote which wasn't basd in fact.
Manny's just getting himself into controversy to avoid this ...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nK352fVP1Vg/TWSWbwGY6YI/AAAAAAAACuk/ZJ9EZrplfgM/s1600/fear-of-needles-trypanophobia.jpg
YOU A FOOL FOR THAT> lololololol
what a lucky guy floyd is with his loyal followers.
but dumb flomos actually think they're helping floyd, who is already being labeled a duck and a coward left and right. floyd is not getting any younger homies. if floyd doesn't start negotiating a couple of weeks from now (post jmm/pac trilogy), i don't see this fight happening ever. arum/pac will wait a couple of days for floyd and if floyd does nothing they'll announce their next fight. months and months will go by, a non-floyd fight happens, then pac retires most likely.
floyd stays being labeled a duck for the rest of his life. and you guys want this? man that's not love. that's false love.
:bigeyes:people's opinion can be manipulated, and we both know who has the PR steamroller behind his back. that's bob arum and pac's team, constantly spewing some nonsense about floyd into the public. i've been surprised floyd hasn't filed a civil lawsuit because of all that slander, some of it with a pretty clear intent of defaming floyd.
and don't worry arum will announce pac's next fight before the marquez fight, to avoid any chances of pac-floyd talks.
I don't see Pac leaving Arum. Pac is about to retire and the last thing he would do is bow down to a guy who accused him of using peds without shred of proof.
Even if Pac eventually leaves Arum, that would probably take place long after he retired. Point being if you want this fight to happen, it has to happen now and it should be negotiated right after the trilogy. Otherwise, you guys need to move on and let it go.
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With all the BS floating around I've come to the conclusion, Manny is stuck with Top Rank.
This is just a short list of the things that lead me to this, in no particular order
1 Manny suddenly hires an accounting firm (Vision Quest) to look into how he's being paid.
When Manny did this, did you notice a sense of ergency on Bobs part?
He seemed to be very uncomfortable with them snooping around. All of a sudden Koncz is on a plane to see Manny, rumors of VQ being fired swirled/denied then confirmed.
From what I've read VQ found out mannys shyt was in shambles, shoe box files, no real order or any way of tracking real ammounts paid/owed to Manny.
They even found out that Koncz was employed by Top Rank.
Koncz is there to protect manny from being taken advantage of not only from outside sharks, but also he's there to protect manny from Top Rank. So why is he also employed by Bob?
Now this part really got me..
manny hiring VQ was a good move, but Mannys next move puzzled me.
He fires VQ then hires a firm that was recommened by Bob Arum? Why would he do that, VQ had no ties to TR so I assume they'd be looking out for mannys best interest more than a firm that has ties to the company they're investigating.
My guess is, Bob has dirt on Manny (i could only imagine what that dirt is). It seems manny has sold his soul to Bob, Bob knows a lil too much about manny and manny allowed Bob to have too much control for too long.
Point blank, manny better shut the F up or Bob would crush him. manny is stuck
What an imagination....whew....very "nose-holding". You should be writing scripts for a Hollywood studio. Every past posters' garbage you gather together and publish as "fact"......
this reminds me when michael moorer was fired by team pac and was a bit bitter about it.
floyd's gay army was sure that moorer would spill the beans.
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That dirt Arum have on Manny is the roid usage.
Not steroid usage at all.
Do you know how bad it would make Bob Arum look if Pac was to leave , and then Bob Arum tells the world that he knew all along that Pacquiao was on steroids?
What would Cotto, Clottey, Margarito think about that ?
What would the commission think about that?
The real reason why Pacquiao can't leave is because he owes Bob money.
Pacquiao is broke and continues to get advances in the sum of millions from Bob.
what a lucky guy floyd is with his loyal followers.
but dumb flomos actually think they're helping floyd, who is already being labeled a duck and a coward left and right. floyd is not getting any younger homies. if floyd doesn't start negotiating a couple of weeks from now (post jmm/pac trilogy), i don't see this fight happening ever. arum/pac will wait a couple of days for floyd and if floyd does nothing they'll announce their next fight. months and months will go by, a non-floyd fight happens, then pac retires most likely.
floyd stays being labeled a duck for the rest of his life. and you guys want this? man that's not love. that's false love.
:bigeyes:
Manny's just getting himself into controversy to avoid this ...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nK352fVP1Vg/TWSWbwGY6YI/AAAAAAAACuk/ZJ9EZrplfgM/s1600/fear-of-needles-trypanophobia.jpg
pac had agreed to the drug tests.
now floyd brings up that manny should get his finances in order first....
really??? this should stop a fight?
maybe for floyd and his retarded minions.
You guys lost a long time ago, you're struggling rite now and it's funny as hell.
And it's true, manny needs to get his nose outta Bobs azz, and those needles outta his arm.
And your God Bob Arum just said the reason the fite MITE not happen is Floyds court cases?
Now it's back to that when the test can't be ducked... Have you seen the latest Ariza vid screaming CUT OFF dates/Go by the commission rules? Flip flop duck duck drugs
How is Bob ripping manny off a road block from Floyd LMAO!! Floyd a God? LMAO!!!! You guys kill me lol..
Point is the money/drug test is stopping the fight, that's why I care (I'm a damn boxing fan IDIOT!)
When I see BS I pay attention and speak on it if it's stopping the fight from happening.
pac had agreed to the drug tests.
now floyd brings up that manny should get his finances in order first....
really??? this should stop a fight?
maybe for floyd and his retarded minions.
why would a flomo care?
do you think your god floyd really cares?
are you that stupid not to see that it's just another roadblock by floyd?How is Bob ripping manny off a road block from Floyd LMAO!! Floyd a God? LMAO!!!! You guys kill me lol..
Point is the money/drug test is stopping the fight, that's why I care (I'm a damn boxing fan IDIOT!)
When I see BS I pay attention and speak on it if it's stopping the fight from happening.
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