Too Many People Are Looking For A Gatti Type Performance

DLT14y ago

if you watch the Floyd-Ortiz fight and dont see it as one sided, then I think you are looking for a Gatti, Chico, Mosley type performance. Just because its not a brutal one sided beat down, doesnt mean its not domination. Everyone doesnt fight like Pac or Tyson. Sometimes fights can be dominated just by a systematic breakdown and thats what Floyd was doing to Ortiz. How can you not appreciate that? He was taking him apart piece by pice. He was slowly undressing him. To make it worst, you knew Floyd would start a lil slow because of his inactivity and Ortiz being a Southpaw. Most Floyd fans thought Victor's only chance was to catch him & stop him within 4 rounds but it didnt even go like that. Even the bad version of Floyd took the first 2 rounds and that was just him knocking off the rust, getting warmed up, and figuring out the Southpaw stand. The next 2 rounds he had clearly figured him out and was breaking him down. His timing was there and the rust was coming off. I laugh when people say that Ortiz wouldve got stronger as the fight went on or that Floyd knew he was in for a dog fight so thats why he cheap shot. When he's Floyd ever got worst the longer the fight goes? Espically in this situation when again, he was off 16months & fighting a Southpaw. Those first 4 rounds wouldve been by far the worst for him and he was already undressing him. Over the last 8 he wouldve had the rust off, had the timing down, and broke him down for as long as it lasted. Even Ortiz knew it. There is a reason why every trainer, fighter, and even media who youve seen talk says that Ortiz was looking for a way out because Floyd was owning him. If you watch the fight closely and dont just look for a one sided Tyson or Pac type beat down then you can easily see that he was dominating him and it was only going to get worst. What made it seem even closer was the fact that Lampley literally like 5 times during the fight got excited & counted a scoring blow for Ortiz when really it was Floyd who landed in that sitaution. Some of them werent even close. IDK what he was lookin at. The bottom line is that those 4 rounds were by far the worst Floyd you were going to see in that fight and he was already clearly breaking him down easily. He had won the first 2 rounds and had already had him solved after then when sometimes it normally takes him 4 rounds in that situation. It wouldnt have been better for Ortiz and his eye was already near shut when there was 8 rounds left and he's fighting the most accurate guy in the game who's timing is only going to get better. Its the type of performance that you might have to watch 3 or 4 or 5 times to really appreciate it and catch all the nuances that was going on instead of just looking at it in black & white, not seeing a brutal beating, and calling it competitive. There's a reason why he fouled. He couldnt hit him during the normal fight and when he finally got his chance on the ropes twice that round, & still couldnt land meaningful, he got frustrated & wanted out because he couldnt solve him & he knew that Floyd had solved him & it was only going to get worst

Comments (9)

Alx

sucker punching a cherry picked opponent to get a KO is not a DOMINATION. sorry. mainly this

14y ago

MRBOOMER

if the 4th round was his best then I feel sorry for him. How can people have that round close? All he did was have 2 flurries and Floyd dominated the rest of it. To make it worst was that those flurries landed like 1 real punch in each of them. The rest were misses. You could even see it on the replay. Floyd was picking him apart in that round easily It was close for the reason that he was pushed into the ropes and flurried on and that's not normal kinda like Jones tarver 1 it wasn't normal to be happening agaisnt Floyd so they made it more then it was just because they've never seen it if It wasn't for those flurries there would be no talk of this cause in the middle of the ring he was out boxing him

14y ago

01samuelc

what surprised me was how badly floyd hurt victor during the fight. It seemed at times victor was literally forcing himself to continue and was really hurt

14y ago

Bushbaby

I'm trying to understand your point, but I still don't get it. Floyd was winning, but he wasn't dominating, Ortiz was competitive throughout. Ortiz walked through everything that Floyd had. People talk compubox & all the missing Ortiz did, in round 4 Floyd started off with about 17 shots & didn't land not 1. Floyd looked very uncomfortable when he backed into the ropes the few seconds before the headbutt. The right hook he ducked into made him respect Ortiz's power. Floyd dominated Gatti, he was beating Ortiz in a competitive fight. I think your trying to get people to see the fight as Ortiz being dominated like you do. I saw Floyd winning, but Ortiz was in the fight every second of the way. Floyd won by ko in a suspect fight. But I won't praise him for it, the fight ended horribly.

14y ago

DLT

The point was Ortiz was on an upward trajectory, he was getting better, not worse. We (as fans) were going to find out how much better, but Floyd took that away in an underhanded manner. I just dont agree with that. How do you figured that a flurry where he misses everything is better when Floyd completely embarassed him in round 3 and did much of the same in round 4 besides the 2 flurries

14y ago

Weebler_I

if the 4th round was his best then I feel sorry for him. How can people have that round close? All he did was have 2 flurries and Floyd dominated the rest of it. To make it worst was that those flurries landed like 1 real punch in each of them. The rest were misses. You could even see it on the replay. Floyd was picking him apart in that round easily The point was Ortiz was on an upward trajectory, he was getting better, not worse. We (as fans) were going to find out how much better, but Floyd took that away in an underhanded manner.

14y ago

DLT

I don't see it so much as one-sided, as unfinished. Ortiz appeared to have a lot left in him and looked to be coming on stronger. Listen to Steward's commentary of the round, he points out that Ortiz is fresh, unhurt and growing in confidence. Then why was the 4th round Victor's best round? Floyd fans love this line but Victor using his head was clearly a tactic from the off, likely his coach's response to Floyd's use of elbows. Now don't get me wrong imo Floyd won the fight 3 rounds to 1 and was still in control but Ortiz was fresh and was having his best round of the fight, so there's a sense that it was unfinished for many people. if the 4th round was his best then I feel sorry for him. How can people have that round close? All he did was have 2 flurries and Floyd dominated the rest of it. To make it worst was that those flurries landed like 1 real punch in each of them. The rest were misses. You could even see it on the replay. Floyd was picking him apart in that round easily

14y ago

Weebler_I

if you watch the Floyd-Ortiz fight and dont see it as one sided, then I think you are looking for a Gatti, Chico, Mosley type performance. I don't see it so much as one-sided, as unfinished. Ortiz appeared to have a lot left in him and looked to be coming on stronger. Listen to Steward's commentary of the round, he points out that Ortiz is fresh, unhurt and growing in confidence. Even the bad version of Floyd took the first 2 rounds and that was just him knocking off the rust, getting warmed up, and figuring out the Southpaw stand. The next 2 rounds he had clearly figured him out and was breaking him down. His timing was there and the rust was coming off. Then why was the 4th round Victor's best round? There's a reason why he fouled. He couldnt hit him during the normal fight and when he finally got his chance on the ropes twice that round, & still couldnt land meaningful, he got frustrated & wanted out because he couldnt solve him & he knew that Floyd had solved him & it was only going to get worst Floyd fans love this line but Victor using his head was clearly a tactic from the off, likely his coach's response to Floyd's use of elbows. Now don't get me wrong imo Floyd won the fight 3 rounds to 1 and was still in control but Ortiz was fresh and was having his best round of the fight, so there's a sense that it was unfinished for many people.

14y ago

rocco1252

sucker punching a cherry picked opponent to get a KO is not a DOMINATION. sorry. Floyd should have dominated him B rate opponent against an elite ring technician. Hmmmm As much as I hate floyd and would have like to see him lose if he did to a B rate Ortiz then his legacy would be over. Still you dont have to sucker punch your way to win's as he has done in many other fights. He's a world champion who should show class, give respect to get it, and not be a dirty fighter. He considers himself the face of boxing well you wonder why boxing is tarnished and has been for years looks who face is on the cover.

14y ago