Did the Ortiz fight make Floyd think hes not quite ready for Khan.

Floyd tired? This isn't Judah you're talking about buddy.

lol..................

Khan at this point is an over rated hype job , it shows how gullible the TS is when he only jumps on Khan because he comes from the UK , now that is a losers mentality , Khan would need to step it up 3 fold to even get a fight with Floyd and 10 fold to have a chance of winning .

Nothing told me Vic was close to going away. I saw him being outclassed in the third round, not any other round. The fourth round was back and forth. You can't tell me that last flurry Ortiz threw didn't land. I see it land with my own eyes. He also landed that clean right hook while Floyd tried to sidestep by the ropes. I could see Floyd start to land the check hook and uppercut, and i'm sure that would have continued in the 5th. What we don't know is how Vic would have responded. Maybe his chin would have held up. Maybe his eye would have stayed open enough for him to have a couple more moments. That's why the ending sucked. btw do you think Floyd can beat Sergio? I do not. Only guy I'd favor over him. yes I do think Floyd would beat Sergio. I use to always say that Sergio would be the easiest fight for Floyd out of all the elite guys. I wont go that far anymore but I still think Floyd wins. My #1 reasoning for me having always thinkinking that Floyd would win is the fact that Sergio keeps his hands down all the time. I just cant see anyone who keeps there hands down beating Floyd.

IDK where you guys get this stuff from. Floyd just totally outclassed Ortiz in the 3rd and you could clearly see he was discouraged. In the 4th Floyd was dominating even more. Ortiz had a brief flurry, followed by Floyd again outclassing him until the very end where Ortiz had another flurry. NO punches even hardly landed in those flurries by Ortiz and the one's that did land were on the arms. Floyd was highly confident. He was landing at will, walking Ortiz down, and breaking him down. Ortiz wasnt walking through his punches. People listen to Steward too much. His eye was about to be closed shut and Ortiz completely backed off at the end of the 3rd and Floyd had him on the move for much of the 4th. You dont do that if you arent effected by the shots. Most media who even hate Floyd thinks that he was going to stop him in the next few rounds Nothing told me Vic was close to going away. I saw him being outclassed in the third round, not any other round. The fourth round was back and forth. You can't tell me that last flurry Ortiz threw didn't land. I see it land with my own eyes. He also landed that clean right hook while Floyd tried to sidestep by the ropes. I could see Floyd start to land the check hook and uppercut, and i'm sure that would have continued in the 5th. What we don't know is how Vic would have responded. Maybe his chin would have held up. Maybe his eye would have stayed open enough for him to have a couple more moments. That's why the ending sucked. btw do you think Floyd can beat Sergio? I do not. Only guy I'd favor over him.

No way. Floyd was so supremely confident he was choosing to come forward and engage at will. A few more rounds and he would have made Ortiz into his little hand puppet. Hatton had way more success against Floyd and we saw how that played out.

The more I watch the fight the more I believe this. There's no way we'll know for sure whether Floyd was getting frustrated or not because the fight was too short. What we do know is Vic was walking through Floyd's shots and starting to land in the 4th. IDK where you guys get this stuff from. Floyd just totally outclassed Ortiz in the 3rd and you could clearly see he was discouraged. In the 4th Floyd was dominating even more. Ortiz had a brief flurry, followed by Floyd again outclassing him until the very end where Ortiz had another flurry. NO punches even hardly landed in those flurries by Ortiz and the one's that did land were on the arms. Floyd was highly confident. He was landing at will, walking Ortiz down, and breaking him down. Ortiz wasnt walking through his punches. People listen to Steward too much. His eye was about to be closed shut and Ortiz completely backed off at the end of the 3rd and Floyd had him on the move for much of the 4th. You dont do that if you arent effected by the shots. Most media who even hate Floyd thinks that he was going to stop him in the next few rounds

Getting hit 6 times per round sure is a battle. Anybody with half a brain knew what road that fight was going down. Realize what you guys are clamoring about. The bar for Floyd is set so high that...wait for it....getting HIT in a FIGHT is a big deal to you guys. He got hit an average of 6 times a round. Ortiz didn't land a single jab. And that's a hard nights work, now? A hard and tiring fight isnt just neccesarily about how many times your hit. It can be how hard Floyd had to work to keep Ortiz off of him. Or because FLoyd was more offensive than usual he may have tired a bit earlier than usual as he usually only jabs. I mean hitting the heavy bag tires you out after a while. The more I watch the fight the more I believe this. There's no way we'll know for sure whether Floyd was getting frustrated or not because the fight was too short. What we do know is Vic was walking through Floyd's shots and starting to land in the 4th. True, victors a strong dude and hed be in floyds face for 12 rounds. He was a lot more live an oponent than Floyd has had for a while.

All I know is that Ortiz was beginning to tag Mayweather in the 4th and before the headbutt, it was turning out to be his best round. Mayweather on the other hand may have been getting a little discouraged after hitting Ortiz with everything, only to see him apply more pressure. That cheap shot was a golden opportunity for Floyd to end the fight before the going got rough. Does this mean that he's having 2nd thoughts about Khan? Maybe, but not necessarily. Ortiz is a southpaw and carries more power than Khan. Khan is taller, has faster hands and a superior jab, not to mention more heart than Ortiz. And we have yet to witness how he fits the role of a welter. I'm sure these things are on Mayweather's mind but depending on how he assesses both fighters, either views Khan as an easier or tougher fight. Only man who knows for sure is himself. The more I watch the fight the more I believe this. There's no way we'll know for sure whether Floyd was getting frustrated or not because the fight was too short. What we do know is Vic was walking through Floyd's shots and starting to land in the 4th.

Floyd not ready for Khan? C'mon man.

not quite ready for khan? are you serious? :lol1: put the Kool-aid down. khan is the most fragile top fighter in the world. his stock could come crumbling down in any fight, at any given moment. talk about hype job. ****.

I agree, FLoyd felt as if he was in a fight, no matter what his fans like to believe. No matter how easy it looked to some, FLoyd was actually in the ring so he knew it was tough going, even if at times it may not have looked like it to some Floyd fans. Floyd does have worries about his opponents though, and nothing would make me think otherwise. Otherwise he wouldnt think so much and be so calculated and would fight more instead. Getting hit 6 times per round sure is a battle. Anybody with half a brain knew what road that fight was going down. Realize what you guys are clamoring about. The bar for Floyd is set so high that...wait for it....getting HIT in a FIGHT is a big deal to you guys. He got hit an average of 6 times a round. Ortiz didn't land a single jab. And that's a hard nights work, now?

mayweahter knows roach has the formula for beating him i mean amir khan just accepted 1) the blood test 2) fighting vargas mayweather is now completely ducking the khan topic completely the blood test was only ever for pacaquiao because they knew he came in weaker because of it. it shows mayweather isnt that confident. if he was he could beat pacquiao on a level playing field but he wants his opponents to come in at less than their best ... This is exactly how the crap starts. Khan says Mayweather's name and win a fight against a gatekeeper and suddenly his fans seem to think he's ready. Nevermind that he's a couple fights removed from running the Boston marathon in the final rounds against Madaina to escape defeat, or that he's still relatively young in his career. He hasn't even fought at welter yet! And now that Floyd isn't gonna fight him when "KHAN" says he wants the fight..Floyd is scared, not ready, ducking, etc. This microwave generation is annoying. Let the guy earn it first. Floyd was a champ in '98 and look how long it took him to get his cash out chance against Oscar. You guys stan these fighters that have a spark, a quick 2-3 year peak, then they get exposed, and then you guys hop off the train. Why aren't there anymore Floyd is scared of Margarito threads? Let me guess...in the boneyard with all the "Hatton's pressure will beat Floyd", "Zab's a fast southpaw that hit hard...Floyd struggles with them", "He scared to fight a legit welterweight with power like Shane", etc. It has become evident to those who know how to assess boxing talent that some guys just aren't on Floyd's level yet. Wait until Khan beats a welterweight first before he becomes the poster boy for the "Floyd is ducking (insert new fighter who really hasn't been tested or earned his stripes yet)" sweepstakes.

All I know is that Ortiz was beginning to tag Mayweather in the 4th and before the headbutt, it was turning out to be his best round. Mayweather on the other hand may have been getting a little discouraged after hitting Ortiz with everything, only to see him apply more pressure. That cheap shot was a golden opportunity for Floyd to end the fight before the going got rough. Does this mean that he's having 2nd thoughts about Khan? Maybe, but not necessarily. Ortiz is a southpaw and carries more power than Khan. Khan is taller, has faster hands and a superior jab, not to mention more heart than Ortiz. And we have yet to witness how he fits the role of a welter. I'm sure these things are on Mayweather's mind but depending on how he assesses both fighters, either views Khan as an easier or tougher fight. Only man who knows for sure is himself. I agree, FLoyd felt as if he was in a fight, no matter what his fans like to believe. No matter how easy it looked to some, FLoyd was actually in the ring so he knew it was tough going, even if at times it may not have looked like it to some Floyd fans. Floyd does have worries about his opponents though, and nothing would make me think otherwise. Otherwise he wouldnt think so much and be so calculated and would fight more instead.

I bet he was thinking; "Wow, this is easier than I thought I'm not even out of 1st gear and I have won every round and this guy is already breaking down mentally I can tell by his face. I bet he's going to headbutt me out of frustration in a minute becaue I'm toying with him so much" Then the rest is history. And in round 4 he was thinking, "Damn! I should have this dude figured out by now, and coupled with all the shots I've hit him with he should be slowing down, but this dude just keeps coming and is beginning to land shots on me! I wish I could find a way out this fi-" POW! HEADBUTT! And the rest is history.

Floyd should have a tune up fight soon. He needs it.

The general consensus is that FLoyd won most if not all the rounds, but i think Floyd was feeling the heat a bit and more tired than usual after the 4th as he was throwing more punches than usual and taking heavier shots than he is probalby used to for a while. Im must wondering if the performance made Floyd more realistic in where hes at at this stage of his career and point.? All I know is that Ortiz was beginning to tag Mayweather in the 4th and before the headbutt, it was turning out to be his best round. Mayweather on the other hand may have been getting a little discouraged after hitting Ortiz with everything, only to see him apply more pressure. That cheap shot was a golden opportunity for Floyd to end the fight before the going got rough. Does this mean that he's having 2nd thoughts about Khan? Maybe, but not necessarily. Ortiz is a southpaw and carries more power than Khan. Khan is taller, has faster hands and a superior jab, not to mention more heart than Ortiz. And we have yet to witness how he fits the role of a welter. I'm sure these things are on Mayweather's mind but depending on how he assesses both fighters, either views Khan as an easier or tougher fight. Only man who knows for sure is himself.

Pac is one story. I do feel like they may think he needs more rounds because Pac is the best and he's a Southpaw. Khan isnt. Khan is a righty and there is no righty that Floyd is going to fear unless they are so much bigger then him that they can just push him around the ring. Khan cant do that. Floyd doesnt even think a righty can land a clean punch on him. Dont go fully off what Floyd is saying right now about Khan. Its not a fight that is going to happen in Khan's next fight. Thats just how Floyd talks. When the fight gets in a real discussion, trust me when I say that Floyd would jump all over taking that fight

mayweahter knows roach has the formula for beating him i mean amir khan just accepted 1) the blood test 2) fighting vargas mayweather is now completely ducking the khan topic completely the blood test was only ever for pacaquiao because they knew he came in weaker because of it. it shows mayweather isnt that confident. if he was he could beat pacquiao on a level playing field but he wants his opponents to come in at less than their best ... I have to agree that Floyd dont sound as if hes ready for Pac with the OSDT requests. Because FLoyd needs Pac more than Pac needs Floyd, so shouldnt be requesting this rubbish tests.

So what im hearing is that you think Floyd thinks hes ready for Khan in England right now, and is ready to rumble with Khan? And Pac if neccesary.