May vs Ortiz; thoughts on the fight itself

I think the fact Mayweather started out strong early, might have made it seem as though Ortiz was forcing the action, but in fact it was Mayweather landing the clean accurate shots from round 1. I thought it was alot closer on fight night, but when i saw it the next day(and sober like someone else had also mentioned) I did feel that Mayweather was the one pressing the action as well as landing the better shots. Also felt those shots were taking their toll, and Ortiz was getting frustrated by the fact he was getting tagged early and often and barely landing his own shots. What I ment by in the wrong was that Ortiz threw a blatant & illegal headbutt; & Mayweather retaliated with a quick left hook right hand that no one saw coming. But my opinion on the matter is that a. Ortiz should have been protecting himself at all times & b. Without the first foul the KO wouldn't have happened. You can't expect to be protected by the same rules that you decided to throw out the window less then 30 seconds ago. But again, we have enough threads about how it ended, let's talk about how you saw it playing out, and how you thought it might have ended had it gone on.

Too much acts of apology had cost Ortiz's belt at SLAVE WAGES at that. Floyd thought the guy Ortiz may land a hard lucky punch to erase his O losses and he took the opportunity quickly when it presented. Now we know that Floyd doesn't have that punch to put the other guy to a complete or temporary retirement. Was OSDT done by USADA in this fight? If yes,when was the last test done? Is USADA responsible and pay pecuniary damages if needle stab wounds cause blood circulation problems or internal hemorrhages to boxers on active training and during the fight itself?

I think the 3rd round was all Floyd, but rounds 1, 2, 4 were all competative with a slight edge to Floyd. In the 4th Floyd ducked to his left & got caught with a mean right hook & seemed to start paying attention after that. I didn't see the Gatti like beating that some claim. I was definitely one of the ppl saying it would be a Gatti like beating. And I think Floyd had figured the kid out and was starting to open up on him. I really didn't see the rounds as being close. The only round that could be close was the 2nd. And most of Ortiz's punches in the 4th were blocked. He landed only about 3 clean punches the 4th.

Oh, you haven't heard? There are brand new rules in boxing that went into effect on 9/17/2011. In a active boxing match, you're no longer allowed to punch your opponent in the face if his guard isn't up properly and his hands are down around his waist, and/or if he doesn't have an advance warning that you're about to punch him in the face, even if he's standing directly in front of you looking you square in the eyes. Any bouts prior to 9/17/11 where a boxer was KO'd without having an advance warning from their opponent that they were about to be KO'd or if their guard wasn't up properly when they were KO'd will now be ruled no contest. As a matter of fact, I vaguely remember Joe Cortez stating that in the locker room before the fight. I had forgotten, thanks for the reminder.

Played out just as I envisioned it. That Ortiz was gonna get overwhelmed by the magnitude of the fight. He was intimidated in there. When he actually let his hands go caught mayweather with good punches. If after those flurries in round four he'd just step back and reset he would have won that round and he could have tried it again. He was just too inexperienced to be in the same ring with Floyd. He's emotions got to him and went ape **** instead of keeping his composure. If Ortiz had just stepped back after that last flurry, he would have won that round and who knows his confidence would have grown.

I know the topic at hand remains the conclusion, I wanted to share my opinion on the fight up until the controversy. Both fighter came out hard and fast, which was expected from Ortiz but a surprise from Mayweather, who was taking it to Ortiz from the start. Ortiz's aggression was getting him nothing but missed shots and hard counters & lead rights to the chin. In the 4th round though, after he lost all 3 previous rounds IMHO, taking a break in round 3 & getting caught clean by Mayweather early in the 4th, Ortiz landed hard and clean on Mayweather a few times, which to his shock had little to no effect. The rest is history, but it's my opinion that had the fight gone on, Ortiz would have gasses by the 6-7 round and had been eating clean right hands all night on the way to a late stoppage. Both fighters were in the wrong, although 1 fighter's actions were caused by the other's, and most importantly legal according the ref & the rules. That being said, I have no problem with the commission calling it a NC and setting an immediate rematch, but i still see it playing out the same. share your thoughts about the fight, there's enough threads about the outcome already. I just fail to see how both fighters are in the wrong.

I think the 3rd round was all Floyd, but rounds 1, 2, 4 were all competative with a slight edge to Floyd. In the 4th Floyd ducked to his left & got caught with a mean right hook & seemed to start paying attention after that. I didn't see the Gatti like beating that some claim. Exactly this, imo.

To Ortiz's credit, he came to fight and put on a decent effort even after he was getting tattooed by Floyd. So the action was good until the horrible ending.

It was a very good and tense fight, but after watching it the next day (and sober) I think Floyd was starting to completely figure him out. Don't listen to the commentators cause they were horrible, especially Lampley who I usually like, Ortiz was hardly landing anything and Floyd couldn't miss with the right hand or other punches. I think Ortiz gave a good account for himself and to the naked eye made it seem a little bit more competitive than it really was. I think Floyd was going to keep pressuring him and being aggressive till about the 8th round when I believe things would have really gotten bad for Ortiz. I'm also in the minority that believe the KO punch was legit and have no complains over it, so overall a good fight and I felt I got my money's worth with the whole card.

I think the 3rd round was all Floyd, but rounds 1, 2, 4 were all competative with a slight edge to Floyd. In the 4th Floyd ducked to his left & got caught with a mean right hook & seemed to start paying attention after that. I didn't see the Gatti like beating that some claim.